# I Pit HOBBY LOBBY **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [November 28, 2012, 2:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-hobby-lobby/642335 "2012-11-28T02:45:24Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 46
**Author:** ![Bricker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/977dab/32.png) [@Bricker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bricker)\ **Post date:** [July 3, 2014, 12:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-hobby-lobby/642335/901 "2014-07-03T00:45:43Z")
> [@Hamlet](#): > > Abortion. Pro-abortion people don’t draw the line in the same place as you do. Shall we all accept that they are the ones who get to decide and you cannot possible consider them wrong, or hypocritical or immoral for disagreeing with your line? This is a perfect example. I have consistently said that while I believe their position to be wrong, I understand how they arrive at it and that – especially since they are acting legally – they are the ones who get to decide. You won’t find me hysterically babbling about how pro-abortion people are murderous hypocrites, or whatever the analogous criticism would be. Because I can accept that in a democratic society, I do NOT get to decide. You cannot. ---
**Author:** ![Hamlet](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hamlet/32/2818_2.png) [@Hamlet](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hamlet)\ **Post date:** [July 3, 2014, 12:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-hobby-lobby/642335/902 "2014-07-03T00:46:40Z")
> [@Bricker](#): > > Hamlet, I regard your ability to make any kind of a moral analysis as essentially nonexistent. You are a moral vacuum. You have no ability whatsoever to opine on moral issues. The best thing for you to do when morality is being discussed is to bow out of the discussion in the same way that you would if the subject were glottal sounds in the Tocharian language family. You wound me so, **Bricker**. : putting back of hand to forehead: However will I go on? If you finish with the pathetic insults, feel free to deal with the actual issues raised. ---
**Author:** ![Hamlet](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hamlet/32/2818_2.png) [@Hamlet](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hamlet)\ **Post date:** [July 3, 2014, 12:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-hobby-lobby/642335/903 "2014-07-03T00:48:20Z")
Nevermind. I wasted enough time on him. ---
**Author:** ![Bricker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/977dab/32.png) [@Bricker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bricker)\ **Post date:** [July 3, 2014, 12:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-hobby-lobby/642335/904 "2014-07-03T00:51:15Z")
> [@johnpost](#): > > Danger sign: The Supreme Court has already expanded Hobby Lobby decision > > [Danger sign: The Supreme Court has already expanded Hobby Lobby decision](http://www.latimes.com/business/hiltzik/la-fi-mh-expanded-hobby-lobby-20140702-column.html) Yup. The RFRA is a wonderfully wise law. I am very pleased. ---
**Author:** ![Bricker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/977dab/32.png) [@Bricker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bricker)\ **Post date:** [July 3, 2014, 12:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-hobby-lobby/642335/905 "2014-07-03T00:53:57Z")
> [@Hamlet](#): > > Nevermind. I wasted enough time on him. Nothing would make me happier than for you to shut your useless yap until the next case comes along where you’re confident in your worthless opinion. This loss meant nothing to you, since you just directed someone else to pay me. The next one will sting, or (more likely) will never happen because you’ll run like a bitch instead of defending that next useless opinion, you worthless fuck. ---
**Author:** ![John\_DiFool](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_difool/32/19543_2.png) [@John\_DiFool](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_DiFool)\ **Post date:** [July 3, 2014, 12:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-hobby-lobby/642335/906 "2014-07-03T00:58:46Z")
Been here since 2006. I don’t recall **Bricker** saying shit like this when I first signed on here. Has an alien (right-wing, natch) homonculus invaded his brain, or something? I swear he’s deep into unintentional self-parody now, shamelessly. ---
**Author:** ![Hamlet](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hamlet/32/2818_2.png) [@Hamlet](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hamlet)\ **Post date:** [July 3, 2014, 1:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-hobby-lobby/642335/907 "2014-07-03T01:00:13Z")
> [@Bricker](#): > > Nothing would make me happier than for you to shut your useless yap until the next case comes along where you’re confident in your worthless opinion. This loss meant nothing to you, since you just directed someone else to pay me. The next one will sting, or (more likely) will never happen because you’ll run like a bitch instead of defending that next useless opinion, you worthless fuck. Is “bitch” a go-to insult for you? Why am I not surprised? ---
**Author:** ![WreckingCrew](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wreckingcrew/32/4080_2.png) [@WreckingCrew](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/WreckingCrew)\ **Post date:** [July 3, 2014, 1:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-hobby-lobby/642335/908 "2014-07-03T01:07:01Z")
> [@Bricker](#): > > Prove to you? > > You don’t seem disposed to give the question a fair shake. How about they prove to a court? I have given the question a fair shake, and I find Hobby Lobby to be full of shit. As for them proving it to a court, congrats I shall now add Hobby Lobby to my list of assholes who won a court case next to Judge John Ferguson. Now if only there were a place I could go to publicly proclaim my displeasure. ---
**Author:** ![Bricker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/977dab/32.png) [@Bricker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bricker)\ **Post date:** [July 3, 2014, 1:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-hobby-lobby/642335/909 "2014-07-03T01:34:22Z")
> [@WreckingCrew](#): > > I have given the question a fair shake, and I find Hobby Lobby to be full of shit. > > As for them proving it to a court, congrats I shall now add Hobby Lobby to my list of assholes who won a court case next to Judge John Ferguson. Now if only there were a place I could go to publicly proclaim my displeasure. No one who matters cares. ---
**Author:** ![Bricker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/977dab/32.png) [@Bricker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bricker)\ **Post date:** [July 3, 2014, 1:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-hobby-lobby/642335/910 "2014-07-03T01:36:35Z")
> [@John\_DiFool](#): > > Been here since 2006. > > I don’t recall **Bricker** saying shit like this when I first signed on here. > > Has an alien (right-wing, natch) homonculus invaded his brain, or something? > > I swear he’s deep into unintentional self-parody now, shamelessly. Of course. You’re used to me remaining unfailingly polite as people take all sorts of pot-shots at me, right? ---
**Author:** ![WreckingCrew](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wreckingcrew/32/4080_2.png) [@WreckingCrew](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/WreckingCrew)\ **Post date:** [July 3, 2014, 1:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-hobby-lobby/642335/911 "2014-07-03T01:40:28Z")
> [@Bricker](#): > > No one who matters cares. Bricker, serious question. Have you ever won a jury trial, because in all my years here I have never seen you convince anyone about anything. ---
**Author:** ![joyfool](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/df788c/32.png) [@joyfool](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/joyfool)\ **Post date:** [July 3, 2014, 1:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-hobby-lobby/642335/912 "2014-07-03T01:47:34Z")
> [@Bricker](#): > > Of course. You’re used to me remaining unfailingly polite as people take all sorts of pot-shots at me, right? Actually, and I seriously mean this, I’m impressed. You always retain your cool and people do hit below the belt, so showing some righteous anger is a bit amazing. I’m in awe. And now I apologize for sounding like a groupie or something. Back to you all fussing at each other. ---
**Author:** ![Bricker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/977dab/32.png) [@Bricker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bricker)\ **Post date:** [July 3, 2014, 1:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-hobby-lobby/642335/913 "2014-07-03T01:49:06Z")
> [@WreckingCrew](#): > > Bricker, serious question. Have you ever won a jury trial, because in all my years here I have never seen you convince anyone about anything. Yes. Winningest record in my office, actually. ---
**Author:** ![bup](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/6bbea6/32.png) [@bup](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bup)\ **Post date:** [July 3, 2014, 1:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-hobby-lobby/642335/914 "2014-07-03T01:49:25Z")
I was just admiring **Bricker** ’s sig line, if you know what I mean. ---
**Author:** ![Bricker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/977dab/32.png) [@Bricker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bricker)\ **Post date:** [July 3, 2014, 1:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-hobby-lobby/642335/915 "2014-07-03T01:51:25Z")
> [@faithfool](#): > > Actually, and I seriously mean this, I’m impressed. You always retain your cool and people do hit below the belt, so showing some righteous anger is a bit amazing. I’m in awe. > > And now I apologize for sounding like a groupie or something. Back to you all fussing at each other. You know…while I sort of appreciate the accolade, it would have been more welcome when you saw that people were hitting below the belt. But thanks, nonetheless. If experience is any indicator, I’ll read these posts tomorrow and regret losing my temper. ---
**Author:** ![Hamlet](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hamlet/32/2818_2.png) [@Hamlet](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hamlet)\ **Post date:** [July 3, 2014, 1:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-hobby-lobby/642335/916 "2014-07-03T01:53:02Z")
> [@Bricker](#): > > Of course. You’re used to me remaining unfailingly polite as people take all sorts of pot-shots at me, right? Yes, because pointing out when you’re deliberately misleading and hypocritical is “taking potshots” at you. Get off the cross. We need the wood. ---
**Author:** ![andros](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/e480ec/32.png) [@andros](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/andros)\ **Post date:** [July 3, 2014, 1:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-hobby-lobby/642335/917 "2014-07-03T01:54:21Z")
I’ve been here since 1999, and… Vertiginous Vishnu on a velocipede, I’ve gotten fucking oooooold. ☹ But I also cannot get on the “Rick is a fuck” train. I disagree with him a lot. Most of the time, when it comes to politics. But in my experience he is not stupid, he is not a dick as a general rule, and he is not evil. ETA: And dude, you’re more than capable of defending yourself. . ---
**Author:** ![joyfool](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/df788c/32.png) [@joyfool](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/joyfool)\ **Post date:** [July 3, 2014, 1:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-hobby-lobby/642335/918 "2014-07-03T01:57:09Z")
> [@Bricker](#): > > You know…while I sort of appreciate the accolade, it would have been more welcome when you saw that people were hitting below the belt. > > But thanks, nonetheless. If experience is any indicator, I’ll read these posts tomorrow and regret losing my temper. Unfortunately, it seems that hitting below the belt is the past time on the internet and, for the most part, I glaze over legal talk and lengthy responses to such. I am sorry for not saying something every time I witness it. Sometimes I don’t think to do so, others that the posters don’t want me white knighting them. However, I’ll try to be more vigilant in the future when it appears necessary. ---
**Author:** ![Bricker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/977dab/32.png) [@Bricker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bricker)\ **Post date:** [July 3, 2014, 1:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-hobby-lobby/642335/919 "2014-07-03T01:58:18Z")
> [@bup](#): > > I was just admiring **Bricker** ’s sig line, if you know what I mean. I don’t. What does this mean? ---
**Author:** ![WreckingCrew](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wreckingcrew/32/4080_2.png) [@WreckingCrew](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/WreckingCrew)\ **Post date:** [July 3, 2014, 1:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-hobby-lobby/642335/920 "2014-07-03T01:59:28Z")
> [@Bricker](#): > > Yes. Winningest record in my office, actually. Well my heartiest congratulations on that then. Seriously. May I suggest you add “are you a member of the Straight Dope message board” to your Voir Dire list so that you can keep your batting average high. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-hobby-lobby/642335.md?page=45) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-hobby-lobby/642335.md?page=47)