# I pit homicidal killers who also lie about their blood sugar levels **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [April 21, 2006, 6:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-homicidal-killers-who-also-lie-about-their-blood-sugar-levels/353667 "2006-04-21T18:29:22Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Qadgop\_the\_Mercotan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/qadgop_the_mercotan/32/83_2.png) [@Qadgop\_the\_Mercotan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Qadgop_the_Mercotan)\ **Post date:** [April 21, 2006, 6:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-homicidal-killers-who-also-lie-about-their-blood-sugar-levels/353667/1 "2006-04-21T18:29:22Z")
The title pretty much says it all. First he commits homicide, then he lies to me and my staff every day about his glucometer readings. Says its 103 when it’s 303, 158 when it’s 258, 97 when it’s 297, and so forth. So much for the honor system of reporting your results to the nurses! I mean, _really_! Thank you for this opportunity to vent. ---
**Author:** ![Marley23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Marley23](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marley23)\ **Post date:** [April 21, 2006, 6:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-homicidal-killers-who-also-lie-about-their-blood-sugar-levels/353667/2 "2006-04-21T18:36:06Z")
Are we seeing the return of the Twinkie Defense, **Qadgop**? ---
**Author:** ![Qadgop\_the\_Mercotan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/qadgop_the_mercotan/32/83_2.png) [@Qadgop\_the\_Mercotan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Qadgop_the_Mercotan)\ **Post date:** [April 21, 2006, 6:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-homicidal-killers-who-also-lie-about-their-blood-sugar-levels/353667/3 "2006-04-21T18:38:49Z")
> [@Marley23](#): > > Are we seeing the return of the Twinkie Defense, **Qadgop**? If he tried that plea, it didn’t work. He’ll be mine to deal with for a few decades. Dude just grinned at me when I told him “The DaVinci Code” wasn’t as fictional as his blood sugar log. ---
**Author:** ![Gut](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/8dc957/32.png) [@Gut](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gut)\ **Post date:** [April 21, 2006, 6:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-homicidal-killers-who-also-lie-about-their-blood-sugar-levels/353667/4 "2006-04-21T18:44:37Z")
Does he gain anything from this behavior other than annoying you and the rest of the medical staff? Not having any experience with measuring blood sugar levels I have no idea why somebody would lie about it. Wouldn’t a normal person want the correct levels recorded so that the correct treatment could be administered? I suppose being a homicidal killer doesn’t exactly make him normal though. ---
**Author:** ![Menocchio](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/9de053/32.png) [@Menocchio](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Menocchio)\ **Post date:** [April 21, 2006, 6:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-homicidal-killers-who-also-lie-about-their-blood-sugar-levels/353667/5 "2006-04-21T18:46:06Z")
I have to ask, what’s he trying to do? Kill himself the slow way? Just screw with you? Because I really can’t see the benefit here. ---
**Author:** ![Biggirl](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/biggirl/32/3294_2.png) [@Biggirl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Biggirl)\ **Post date:** [April 21, 2006, 6:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-homicidal-killers-who-also-lie-about-their-blood-sugar-levels/353667/6 "2006-04-21T18:46:27Z")
Are there any other kinds of killers? I mean, besides homicidal. And what good does lying about your blood sugar do besides putting you in a coma? ---
**Author:** ![Miller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/miller/32/481_2.png) [@Miller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Miller)\ **Post date:** [April 21, 2006, 6:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-homicidal-killers-who-also-lie-about-their-blood-sugar-levels/353667/7 "2006-04-21T18:48:31Z")
> [@Biggirl](#): > > Are there any other kinds of killers? I mean, besides homicidal. Suicidal, with bad aim. ---
**Author:** ![Palooka](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/palooka/32/2902_2.png) [@Palooka](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Palooka)\ **Post date:** [April 21, 2006, 6:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-homicidal-killers-who-also-lie-about-their-blood-sugar-levels/353667/8 "2006-04-21T18:51:08Z")
> [@Menocchio](#): > > I have to ask, what’s he trying to do? > > Because I really can’t see the benefit here. He’s trying to melt a hole in the drain so he can escape and save his brother from deathrow. ---
**Author:** ![Qadgop\_the\_Mercotan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/qadgop_the_mercotan/32/83_2.png) [@Qadgop\_the\_Mercotan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Qadgop_the_Mercotan)\ **Post date:** [April 21, 2006, 6:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-homicidal-killers-who-also-lie-about-their-blood-sugar-levels/353667/9 "2006-04-21T18:52:38Z")
If he doesn’t let anyone know his diabetes isn’t out of control, we can’t pressure him to make responsible changes about what he eats, how often he has to come to check his blood sugar, or how he should _really_ watch his weight and exercise more. That’s my guess, anyway. As for other types of killers than homicidal, well. What about the guy that killed all those penguins? That wasn’t homicide now, was it? And at least he doesn’t lie to me about his blood sugars. ---
**Author:** ![Qadgop\_the\_Mercotan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/qadgop_the_mercotan/32/83_2.png) [@Qadgop\_the\_Mercotan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Qadgop_the_Mercotan)\ **Post date:** [April 21, 2006, 6:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-homicidal-killers-who-also-lie-about-their-blood-sugar-levels/353667/10 "2006-04-21T18:53:49Z")
> [@Qadgop the Mercotan](#): > > If he doesn’t let anyone know his diabetes isn’t out of control Pardon me, that should read: If he doesn’t let anyone know his diabetes **is** out of control. ---
**Author:** ![Snooooopy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ee7513/32.png) [@Snooooopy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snooooopy)\ **Post date:** [April 21, 2006, 7:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-homicidal-killers-who-also-lie-about-their-blood-sugar-levels/353667/11 "2006-04-21T19:12:54Z")
He’s like the evil opposite of Wilford Brimley! ---
**Author:** ![romansperson](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/romansperson/32/17100_2.png) [@romansperson](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/romansperson)\ **Post date:** [April 21, 2006, 7:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-homicidal-killers-who-also-lie-about-their-blood-sugar-levels/353667/12 "2006-04-21T19:16:15Z")
> [@Qadgop the Mercotan](#): > > If he tried that plea, it didn’t work. He’ll be mine to deal with for a few decades. If he keeps lying he’ll be incredibly lucky to still be alive in a few decades. His sentence may outlive him. ---
**Author:** ![NurseCarmen](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/5daacb/32.png) [@NurseCarmen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/NurseCarmen)\ **Post date:** [April 21, 2006, 7:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-homicidal-killers-who-also-lie-about-their-blood-sugar-levels/353667/13 "2006-04-21T19:19:06Z")
I need a link to the penquicide guy. ---
**Author:** ![Qadgop\_the\_Mercotan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/qadgop_the_mercotan/32/83_2.png) [@Qadgop\_the\_Mercotan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Qadgop_the_Mercotan)\ **Post date:** [April 21, 2006, 7:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-homicidal-killers-who-also-lie-about-their-blood-sugar-levels/353667/14 "2006-04-21T19:27:32Z")
> [@NurseCarmen](#): > > I need a link to the penquicide guy. Sorry, I’ve said too much already. 😉 ---
**Author:** ![Oy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/bc8723/32.png) [@Oy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Oy)\ **Post date:** [April 21, 2006, 7:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-homicidal-killers-who-also-lie-about-their-blood-sugar-levels/353667/15 "2006-04-21T19:33:46Z")
\*\*QtM[/b, is it possible he’s having trouble reading the first digit with whatever tool he’s using to monitor? In the examples you gave, the second two digits were accurate, but the first wasn’t. I mean, isn’t it possible he’s an idiot rather than a jerk, if you follow me? ---
**Author:** ![OneCentStamp](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/13edae/32.png) [@OneCentStamp](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/OneCentStamp)\ **Post date:** [April 21, 2006, 7:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-homicidal-killers-who-also-lie-about-their-blood-sugar-levels/353667/16 "2006-04-21T19:38:23Z")
> [@Snooooopy](#): > > He’s like the evil opposite of Wilford Brimley! [gruff voice] “Check your blood sugar, but check it seldom.” [/gruff] 😃 ---
**Author:** ![OtakuLoki](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/ac8455/32.png) [@OtakuLoki](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/OtakuLoki)\ **Post date:** [April 21, 2006, 7:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-homicidal-killers-who-also-lie-about-their-blood-sugar-levels/353667/17 "2006-04-21T19:50:06Z")
> [@Qadgop the Mercotan](#): > > Sorry, I’ve said too much already. 😉 Gotta watch out for inspiring all those penguin copy-cat killers just waiting for the inspiration to go out on a rampage. \ ---
**Author:** ![Cemetery\_Savior](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/439d5e/32.png) [@Cemetery\_Savior](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cemetery_Savior)\ **Post date:** [April 21, 2006, 8:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-homicidal-killers-who-also-lie-about-their-blood-sugar-levels/353667/18 "2006-04-21T20:04:01Z")
Maybe he’s angling to get into the prison’s version of the ICU? Has to be better than General Population, right? -Cem ---
**Author:** ![Otto](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/bbe5ce/32.png) [@Otto](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Otto)\ **Post date:** [April 21, 2006, 8:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-homicidal-killers-who-also-lie-about-their-blood-sugar-levels/353667/19 "2006-04-21T20:06:17Z")
> [@Palooka](#): > > He’s trying to melt a hole in the drain so he can escape and save his brother from deathrow. Damn your black heart; I wanted to make that joke. ---
**Author:** ![Qadgop\_the\_Mercotan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/qadgop_the_mercotan/32/83_2.png) [@Qadgop\_the\_Mercotan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Qadgop_the_Mercotan)\ **Post date:** [April 21, 2006, 8:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-homicidal-killers-who-also-lie-about-their-blood-sugar-levels/353667/20 "2006-04-21T20:07:31Z")
> [@Oy!](#): > > **QtM** , is it possible he’s having trouble reading the first digit with whatever tool he’s using to monitor? In the examples you gave, the second two digits were accurate, but the first wasn’t. I mean, isn’t it possible he’s an idiot rather than a jerk, if you follow me? Nope. He’s always got the 2nd and 3rd digits just fine. And never makes an error which increases the reading rather than decreases it. And his vision checks out just fine per our optometrist. Say, **Oy!**. I’ve got this bridge I’d love to sell! Interested? 😃 [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-homicidal-killers-who-also-lie-about-their-blood-sugar-levels/353667.md?page=2)