# I Pit Hypocritical Fundamentalist GOPers **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [July 27, 2012, 2:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-hypocritical-fundamentalist-gopers/629524 "2012-07-27T02:27:20Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![xenophon41](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/xenophon41/32/253_2.png) [@xenophon41](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/xenophon41)\ **Post date:** [July 29, 2012, 6:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-hypocritical-fundamentalist-gopers/629524/41 "2012-07-29T18:25:10Z")
> [@Una\_Persson](#): > > On a factual question, are there any major fast-food restaurants or even adult-food franchises where the corporation or the CEO has come out and said “Hell yes, we support LGBT rights!” And by “major”, I don’t mean small-time like hamburger Mary’s (which is a lovely place)? The National Gay & Lesbian Chamber of Commerce has [a gratifyingly long list](http://www.nglcc.org/corporate/partners) of corporate partners who they say “have exhibited extraordinary support of the LGBT business community.” Also, the aforementioned Ben & Jerry’s are activists for social justice, although they don’t seem to have made special statements concerning gender or sexual identity issues. J C Penny has had the recent silliness from the “million moms” and has stood by Ellen DeGeneres as their spokesperson. ETA: Burger King is listed on the NGLCC partner list, so there’s at least one fast food franchise that’s at least considered supportive by NGLCC. ---
**Author:** ![Bpelta](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/eb8c5e/32.png) [@Bpelta](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bpelta)\ **Post date:** [July 29, 2012, 6:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-hypocritical-fundamentalist-gopers/629524/42 "2012-07-29T18:37:23Z")
> [@MOIDALIZE](#): > > Menino has already conceded that his office has no power to block permits for a lawfully-run business simply because of the owner’s beliefs. So Menino’s letter amounts to nothing more than his own speech, and he’s certainly entitled to express his opinion. > > That leaves Rahm and the alderman, and it hardly needs to be said, but you don’t use your political office to hinder and harass those whose views you disagree with. It’s despotic and un-American. And every liberal commentator I’ve read online has said much the same thing. Nothing wrong with Menino’s letter, but in one of his public comments, he’d said how hard Chick-Fil-A would find it to come here. Glad to hear he walked it back. Rahm has apparently [adopted](http://www.nbcchicago.com/blogs/ward-room/Rahm-Chick-fil-A-Chicago-164043916.html) a similar position. I also saw a [debate](http://www.mediaite.com/tv/starting-point-panel-takes-on-chicago-alderman-over-citys-possible-chick-fil-a-block/) the alderman had with a CNN panel, and it seemed to me that his position is more nuanced than it originally sounded; for months, he’s apparently been working with Chick-Fil-A, but wants to make sure civil protections are in place. ---
**Author:** ![Una\_Persson](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/una_persson/32/346_2.png) [@Una\_Persson](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Una_Persson)\ **Post date:** [July 29, 2012, 7:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-hypocritical-fundamentalist-gopers/629524/43 "2012-07-29T19:09:36Z")
> [@xenophon41](#): > > ETA: Burger King is listed on the NGLCC partner list, so there’s at least one fast food franchise that’s at least considered supportive by NGLCC. Well. In complete seriousness, every time I feel like Chik-Fil-A, I’ll go by Burger King. I like their little onion rings…hmm…if I wasn’t about to head out for pizza and wine in the sun, I’d go see the King. ---
**Author:** ![Omg\_a\_Black\_Conservative](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/7ba0ec/32.png) [@Omg\_a\_Black\_Conservative](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Omg_a_Black_Conservative)\ **Post date:** [July 29, 2012, 11:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-hypocritical-fundamentalist-gopers/629524/44 "2012-07-29T23:32:59Z")
> [@Miller](#): > > Oh, for fucks sake, I’m sick of this bullshit. Dan Cathy actively works to make life worse for gay people. He supports organizations that fight to make it possible to fire gay people for being gay, to prevent them from renting homes or buying property, and to make homosexuality grounds for loss of custody of your children. And when we call him an asshole and say we don’t want to eat his shitty chicken because of it, no-dick wonders like yourself crawl out from every available rock to lecture us for being mean to him. Do us all a favor and go to the nearest Chik-Fil-A and cram your greasy gullet full of his disgusting hate-chicken until you can’t croak out any more of your pig ignorant defenses of this moral vacuum, you dribbling, shit-stained chancre. This Wednesday, I will make sure to buy an extra chicken sandwich in your honor and eat it. ---
**Author:** ![Condescending\_Robot](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/a183cd/32.png) [@Condescending\_Robot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Condescending_Robot)\ **Post date:** [July 29, 2012, 11:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-hypocritical-fundamentalist-gopers/629524/45 "2012-07-29T23:44:29Z")
> [@Omg\_a\_Black\_Conservative](#): > > This Wednesday, I will make sure to buy an extra chicken sandwich in your honor and eat it. And on Wednesday, I will neutralize your values by: \*patronizing Apple, Google, Microsoft, and Starbucks \*reading a book \*refrigerating my food \*bathing, and \*making sure not to mass-sacrifice children to the goat god. ---
**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\ **Post date:** [July 29, 2012, 11:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-hypocritical-fundamentalist-gopers/629524/46 "2012-07-29T23:51:49Z")
> [@Condescending\_Robot](#): > > And on Wednesday, I will neutralize your values by: > > \ > > \*refrigerating my food > \*bathing Do you know something we don’t? :dubious: ---
**Author:** ![Condescending\_Robot](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/a183cd/32.png) [@Condescending\_Robot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Condescending_Robot)\ **Post date:** [July 29, 2012, 11:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-hypocritical-fundamentalist-gopers/629524/47 "2012-07-29T23:59:39Z")
> [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](#): > > Do you know something we don’t? :dubious: Homophobes are subhuman savages who communicate through grunts and setting things on fire. They have chosen not to be part of modern civilization. If you didn’t know that before, consider yourself informed. ---
**Author:** ![Omg\_a\_Black\_Conservative](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/7ba0ec/32.png) [@Omg\_a\_Black\_Conservative](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Omg_a_Black_Conservative)\ **Post date:** [July 29, 2012, 11:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-hypocritical-fundamentalist-gopers/629524/48 "2012-07-29T23:59:51Z")
> [@Condescending\_Robot](#): > > And on Wednesday, I will neutralize your values by: > \*patronizing Apple, Google, Microsoft, and Starbucks > \*reading a book > \*refrigerating my food > \*bathing, and > \*making sure not to mass-sacrifice children to the goat god. I have an iPad 2, I use Google Chrome (in fact I’m using it now), I own a 360 (albeit it died :(), I love Starbucks, I read every now and then, I make sure to keep my refrigerator (semi-) well stocked and I try to take a bath at least every two or three days. But if you want to do the last well… Have fun with that. ---
**Author:** ![UltraVires](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/ecccb3/32.png) [@UltraVires](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/UltraVires)\ **Post date:** [July 30, 2012, 12:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-hypocritical-fundamentalist-gopers/629524/49 "2012-07-30T00:02:05Z")
As has been said in other threads, it’s perfectly cromulent for individuals to refuse to patronize CFA because of its statements by the CEO. It’s absolutely wrong, and unconstitutional for agents of the state to deny business licenses on the basis of a political belief. ---
**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\ **Post date:** [July 30, 2012, 12:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-hypocritical-fundamentalist-gopers/629524/50 "2012-07-30T00:02:21Z")
> [@Condescending\_Robot](#): > > Homophobes are subhuman savages who communicate through grunts and setting things on fire. And yet, despite these handicaps, some of them manage to operate multi-million dollar businesses. Like Chick-fil-A. :rolleyes: Talk like this doesn’t do anyone any favors, including our side. ---
**Author:** ![Condescending\_Robot](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/a183cd/32.png) [@Condescending\_Robot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Condescending_Robot)\ **Post date:** [July 30, 2012, 12:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-hypocritical-fundamentalist-gopers/629524/51 "2012-07-30T00:06:49Z")
> [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](#): > > And yet, despite these handicaps, some of them manage to operate multi-million dollar businesses. Like Chick-fil-A. :rolleyes: Talk like this doesn’t do anyone any favors, including our side. Thanks for the concern trolling over the feelings of primitives! ---
**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\ **Post date:** [July 30, 2012, 12:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-hypocritical-fundamentalist-gopers/629524/52 "2012-07-30T00:28:20Z")
It’s got nothing to do with their feelings, dipshit. You are making our position look bad. ---
**Author:** ![Condescending\_Robot](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/a183cd/32.png) [@Condescending\_Robot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Condescending_Robot)\ **Post date:** [July 30, 2012, 12:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-hypocritical-fundamentalist-gopers/629524/53 "2012-07-30T00:48:59Z")
> [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](#): > > It’s got nothing to do with their feelings, dipshit. You are making our position look bad. I don’t care what some sisterfucking savage thinks of me. They don’t have minds to change, and they are already in a war whether you want one or not. I’m going to fight back instead of handing them flowers. ---
**Author:** ![Martin\_Hyde](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/47e85d/32.png) [@Martin\_Hyde](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Martin_Hyde)\ **Post date:** [July 30, 2012, 1:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-hypocritical-fundamentalist-gopers/629524/54 "2012-07-30T01:41:39Z")
I’ll be honest I’m never going to patronize or not patronize a business based on their politics, I buy based on products. I’m not a big fast food fan, and when I go for fast food it’s usually for a greasy fast food burger so I’m not really Chick-fil-A’s target market in any case…but if I ate at fast food places a lot I’d go or not go to Chick-fil-A based on their product. I get it, free country and all that shit, you can not eat wherever you want to not eat. But I do think once you go down the rabbit hole of only patronizing businesses that do things politically that you like things get pretty ridiculous. I don’t think there is any moral issue with patronizing a business whose ownership do things you’re opposed to…I think it’s fine to not patronize them, but if I go to a restaurant that funds reprehensible and injurious causes like Barack Obama’s re-eleciton campaign or [MoveOn.org](http://MoveOn.org), I don’t care. The fact is I’m making a decision to buy a product or service, and in a free society I don’t think I want to divide my country into “people I will do business with and / or associate with” and “people I won’t” based on their political activities. Once my money becomes their money I don’t think it’s my business what they do with it. I think organizations like [MoveOn.org](http://MoveOn.org) are abominations, but I don’t think we should try and segregate our society along political lines. It’s a **healthy and good** thing when you can still associate with and do business with people whose political positions are anathema to your own…in a civil society we’re supposed to at least attempt to resolve political issues in the political forum and still live in the same society and be civil to each other in the non-political arena. ---
**Author:** ![Martin\_Hyde](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/47e85d/32.png) [@Martin\_Hyde](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Martin_Hyde)\ **Post date:** [July 30, 2012, 1:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-hypocritical-fundamentalist-gopers/629524/55 "2012-07-30T01:43:34Z")
> [@Condescending\_Robot](#): > > I don’t care what some sisterfucking savage thinks of me. They don’t have minds to change, and they are already in a war whether you want one or not. I’m going to fight back instead of handing them flowers. You’re a blithering idiot who starts crying and calling people names because they do things you don’t like, then calls everyone here a troll that responds to you at all. You’re a fuckstick and I hope people abstain from engaging with you in this thread because your contributions are akin to a retarded kid grunting and screaming in the middle of a discussion between mentally competent adults. ---
**Author:** ![Condescending\_Robot](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/a183cd/32.png) [@Condescending\_Robot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Condescending_Robot)\ **Post date:** [July 30, 2012, 1:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-hypocritical-fundamentalist-gopers/629524/56 "2012-07-30T01:44:31Z")
Yeah yeah, you don’t like gays, we get it. Go burn a cross or something. ---
**Author:** ![Martin\_Hyde](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/47e85d/32.png) [@Martin\_Hyde](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Martin_Hyde)\ **Post date:** [July 30, 2012, 1:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-hypocritical-fundamentalist-gopers/629524/57 "2012-07-30T01:45:31Z")
> [@Condescending\_Robot](#): > > Yeah yeah, you don’t like gays, we get it. Go burn a cross or something. Shouldn’t you be looking up child porn? Everyone knows anyone that is gay or tolerates gays constantly rapes children and / or dreams or raping children. Or maybe you should try and spread some more HIV around, as I’m sure you have that as well. ---
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [July 30, 2012, 1:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-hypocritical-fundamentalist-gopers/629524/58 "2012-07-30T01:46:16Z")
> [@](#): > > …in a civil society we’re supposed to at least attempt to resolve political issues in the political forum and still live in the same society and be civil to each other in the non-political arena. That doesn’t include mimes and lawyers, right? I mean, we can still just walk up and kick _them_ in the nuts, right? ---
**Author:** ![Condescending\_Robot](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/a183cd/32.png) [@Condescending\_Robot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Condescending_Robot)\ **Post date:** [July 30, 2012, 1:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-hypocritical-fundamentalist-gopers/629524/59 "2012-07-30T01:46:23Z")
> [@Martin\_Hyde](#): > > Shouldn’t you be looking up child porn? Everyone knows anyone that is gay or tolerates gays constantly rapes children and / or dreams or raping children. > > Or maybe you should try and spread some more HIV around, as I’m sure you have that as well. The face of the Chick Fil A patron. ---
**Author:** ![Martin\_Hyde](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/47e85d/32.png) [@Martin\_Hyde](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Martin_Hyde)\ **Post date:** [July 30, 2012, 1:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-hypocritical-fundamentalist-gopers/629524/60 "2012-07-30T01:48:55Z")
> [@Condescending\_Robot](#): > > The face of the Chick Fil A patron. The face of a guy who periodically ends up in the ER to have gerbils and coke cans removed from his ass. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-hypocritical-fundamentalist-gopers/629524.md?page=2) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-hypocritical-fundamentalist-gopers/629524.md?page=4)