# I Pit Ignorant Sheltered Elitist Asshats!

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-ignorant-sheltered-elitist-asshats/665452>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [August 6, 2013, 12:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-ignorant-sheltered-elitist-asshats/665452 "2013-08-06T00:27:44Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Labrador\_Deceiver](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/7c8e57/32.png) [@Labrador\_Deceiver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Labrador_Deceiver)\
**Post date:** [August 6, 2013, 2:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-ignorant-sheltered-elitist-asshats/665452/21 "2013-08-06T14:58:30Z")

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Beat me to it, Bob.

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**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\
**Post date:** [August 6, 2013, 4:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-ignorant-sheltered-elitist-asshats/665452/22 "2013-08-06T16:33:23Z")

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> [@Gatopescado](#):
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> I always thought Noam Chompsky would be a good name for a dog that bites.

Nom Chompsky.

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**Author:** ![madsircool](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/madsircool/32/3432_2.png) [@madsircool](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/madsircool)\
**Post date:** [August 6, 2013, 5:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-ignorant-sheltered-elitist-asshats/665452/23 "2013-08-06T17:36:36Z")

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> [@Gatopescado](#):
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> I always thought Noam Chompsky would be a good name for a dog that bites.

Or Harry Potter for a hippie.

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**Author:** ![Asympotically\_fat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/e47c2d/32.png) [@Asympotically\_fat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Asympotically_fat)\
**Post date:** [August 6, 2013, 10:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-ignorant-sheltered-elitist-asshats/665452/24 "2013-08-06T22:45:25Z")

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America is only classless because everyone is lower class. Now away with you all before I release the hounds!

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**Author:** ![eclectic\_wench](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/ac91a4/32.png) [@eclectic\_wench](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eclectic_wench)\
**Post date:** [August 6, 2013, 10:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-ignorant-sheltered-elitist-asshats/665452/25 "2013-08-06T22:50:51Z")

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> [@brujaja](#):
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> inbred deep-frying ass-scratching halfwit

Any lurkers out there looking for a truly great ID?

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**Author:** ![miss\_elizabeth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/838e76/32.png) [@miss\_elizabeth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/miss_elizabeth)\
**Post date:** [August 6, 2013, 11:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-ignorant-sheltered-elitist-asshats/665452/26 "2013-08-06T23:55:27Z")

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> [@John\_Mace](#):
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> Did you get the post after mine?

I did.

Look, I wasn’t trying to be a bitch or something. To the degree I remember anyone on here, which is small, I remember you as being a decent guy who is somewhat conservative. But I’m not even sure if that’s you; it might be another poster with a name similar to yours. Which led to me to hope you were kidding, although I didn’t quite get the joke. I wasn’t trying to imply anything. Sometimes snark doesn’t translate well in text.

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**Author:** ![Werekoala](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/7993a0/32.png) [@Werekoala](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Werekoala)\
**Post date:** [August 7, 2013, 12:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-ignorant-sheltered-elitist-asshats/665452/27 "2013-08-07T00:03:22Z")

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> [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](#):
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> Nom Chompsky.

_golf clap_

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**Author:** ![DrFidelius](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/drfidelius/32/3447_2.png) [@DrFidelius](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrFidelius)\
**Post date:** [August 7, 2013, 12:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-ignorant-sheltered-elitist-asshats/665452/28 "2013-08-07T00:10:30Z")

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Sometimes, as a middle-aged, middle-class educated white male, I want to go through the mall grabbing purses from some of those women. Just to teach them to not judge by appearances.

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**Author:** ![Find\_Friends](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/c37758/32.png) [@Find\_Friends](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Find_Friends)\
**Post date:** [August 7, 2013, 12:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-ignorant-sheltered-elitist-asshats/665452/29 "2013-08-07T00:16:56Z")

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> [@Asympotically\_fat](#):
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> America is only classless because everyone is lower class. Now away with you all before I release the hounds!

_ **Excellent!** _

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**Author:** ![Bryan\_Ekers](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bryan_ekers/32/183_2.png) [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)\
**Post date:** [August 7, 2013, 12:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-ignorant-sheltered-elitist-asshats/665452/30 "2013-08-07T00:33:37Z")

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I’d respond to the OP but I don’t want to make eye contact.

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**Author:** ![Tethered\_Kite](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/a5b964/32.png) [@Tethered\_Kite](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tethered_Kite)\
**Post date:** [August 7, 2013, 12:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-ignorant-sheltered-elitist-asshats/665452/31 "2013-08-07T00:46:59Z")

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**Brujaja** ’s post is exactly the reason why I argue with people that poverty doesn’t cause crime.

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**Author:** ![clairobscur](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/839c29/32.png) [@clairobscur](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/clairobscur)\
**Post date:** [August 7, 2013, 2:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-ignorant-sheltered-elitist-asshats/665452/32 "2013-08-07T02:27:06Z")

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How would random strangers (pedestrians clutching shoulder bags, security people, customers,…) know you’re poor?

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**Author:** ![flatlined](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/eb9ed0/32.png) [@flatlined](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/flatlined)\
**Post date:** [August 7, 2013, 4:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-ignorant-sheltered-elitist-asshats/665452/33 "2013-08-07T04:54:50Z")

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Small white female checking in. I have 3 looks: Professional business woman, jeans and denim semi-professional cat-wrangler, and leather and chain dripping biker.

People react diffently according to how I’m dressed. When I’m in business clothes, people act like they expect me to be rude. When I’m in in cat-wrangler clothes, they are all friendly and stuff. When I’m in bikergear, they treat me like they expect me to start fights…or like they know I’m a slut who just needs more beer.

I’m the same person under the clothes. I might not be smiling as much when I’m wearing high heels, but thats because my feet hurt, not because I’m a pushy bitch.

I understand the OP’s outrage about people judging by apperances.

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**Author:** ![JKellyMap](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jkellymap/32/15880_2.png) [@JKellyMap](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JKellyMap)\
**Post date:** [August 7, 2013, 11:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-ignorant-sheltered-elitist-asshats/665452/34 "2013-08-07T11:31:30Z")

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However, flatlined, you’ve also shown how easy it is to alter how some people react to you _simply_ by making a change in one’s appearance.

(Yes, I know, some things, like height and skin color and (mostly) age can’t be changed, and sadly they are part of how we are judged; and, I’m not recommending the OP pretend to be something she’s not – but if you want to be appreciated as an enthusiast of scholars like Chomsky, it might be a good idea to dress to look the part!)

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**Author:** ![Slithy\_Tove](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/slithy_tove/32/18248_2.png) [@Slithy\_Tove](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Slithy_Tove)\
**Post date:** [August 7, 2013, 12:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-ignorant-sheltered-elitist-asshats/665452/35 "2013-08-07T12:38:15Z")

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Maybe this [t shirt](http://www.zazzle.com/noam_sayin_tee_shirt-235269383110322344)

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**Author:** ![Kimballkid](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/b5a626/32.png) [@Kimballkid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kimballkid)\
**Post date:** [August 7, 2013, 2:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-ignorant-sheltered-elitist-asshats/665452/36 "2013-08-07T14:56:06Z")

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> [@flatlined](#):
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> leather and chain dripping biker.

Apropos of nothing and way off topic to boot, also, I’m sure you already know, but Sturgis is going on this week.

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**Author:** ![Tethered\_Kite](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/a5b964/32.png) [@Tethered\_Kite](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tethered_Kite)\
**Post date:** [August 7, 2013, 3:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-ignorant-sheltered-elitist-asshats/665452/37 "2013-08-07T15:52:59Z")

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> [@Kimballkid](#):
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> Apropos of nothing and way off topic to boot, also, I’m sure you already know, but Sturgis is going on this week.

The bikes are roaring by on I-90 and they’re leaving me behind. ☹

More trivia: Do you know one year there were no motorcycle accidents causing death? The deaths were strokes and heart attacks. Then there’s that time Stevie got blitzed and fell off the stage. We ain’t what we used to be.

Wearing chaps and a leather jacket certainly gets different results from strangers than cat-wrangler clothes. I guess after a while you know what to expect and make a choice. People who make decisions based on appearance aren’t going to change to accommodate others.

And honestly, don’t we all do it to some extent?

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**Author:** ![Kimballkid](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/b5a626/32.png) [@Kimballkid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kimballkid)\
**Post date:** [August 7, 2013, 4:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-ignorant-sheltered-elitist-asshats/665452/38 "2013-08-07T16:08:54Z")

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I don’t know what it is this year, but there seem to have been a lot more motorcycle deaths due to accidents.

I worked in Wall for six years, meaning six rallys, and I really don’t miss it a bit. Got more than my fill of the rally stuff even though I only went to Sturgis once for about half an hour during that time. That was all it took to figure out there was nothing there for me.

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**Author:** ![Drunky\_Smurf](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/drunky_smurf/32/449_2.png) [@Drunky\_Smurf](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Drunky_Smurf)\
**Post date:** [August 7, 2013, 4:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-ignorant-sheltered-elitist-asshats/665452/39 "2013-08-07T16:52:35Z")

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What I don’t get is why poor people are spending money on internet access to bitch about things instead of using that money to buy new cloths so people wouldn’t know they were poor in the first place.

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**Author:** ![sylmar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/b782af/32.png) [@sylmar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/sylmar)\
**Post date:** [August 7, 2013, 6:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-ignorant-sheltered-elitist-asshats/665452/40 "2013-08-07T18:32:35Z")

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[quote=“flatlined, post:33, topic:665452”]

People react diffently according to how I’m dressed. When I’m in business clothes, people act like they expect me to be rude. When I’m in in cat-wrangler clothes, they are all friendly and stuff. When I’m in bikergear, they treat me like they expect me to start fights…or like they know I’m a slut who just needs more beer.  
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Can I buy you one? 😉

Wish a wardrobe change was all I needed to shape peoples initial perception. I can identify with the OP.

Distinctive facial scars, rugged build, I dress socially appropriate for whatever facet of life I’m engaged in, no piercings, no visible tats etc, but it’s still difficult meeting people for the first time.

Stopped three gentlemen walking towards me once to ask for directions, all three jumped back and one of them held his brief case out in front of him like it was a shield.

Hate getting into an elevator with only one other person just to watch them try and meld with the far wall. Smiling at them only makes it worse.

It’s a bitch when people find just your presence to be threatening. It’s not a universal reaction, but frequent enough to be annoying.

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