# I Pit ILMVI for Complaining Incessantly About Acronyms

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**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [May 29, 2021, 1:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-ilmvi-for-complaining-incessantly-about-acronyms/943142 "2021-05-29T01:49:14Z")\
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**Author:** ![LSLGuy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lslguy/32/5813_2.png) [@LSLGuy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LSLGuy)\
**Post date:** [July 11, 2022, 10:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-ilmvi-for-complaining-incessantly-about-acronyms/943142/262 "2022-07-11T22:14:03Z")

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Crap. I forgot to define “OP” on my first use. I’m going to Pit jail for sure!

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**Author:** ![Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/left_hand_of_dorkness/32/7156_2.png) [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Left_Hand_of_Dorkness)\
**Post date:** [July 11, 2022, 10:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-ilmvi-for-complaining-incessantly-about-acronyms/943142/263 "2022-07-11T22:50:40Z")

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> [@TroutMan](#):
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> For me, it’s not so much that he isn’t being reasonable in what acronyms he doesn’t understand. It’s that he’s a complete dick about it instead of asking politely, “I’m sorry, what is SaaS?”

I think the point about acronyms (or for the uberpedants initialisms and acronyms) being words is key. If someone uses a word I don’t know, I’ll look it up or figure it out from context; and if I can’t do either, I’ll ask them, but I’ll ask in a way that makes it clear they’re doing me a favor by defining it.

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**Author:** ![k9bfriender](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/k9bfriender/32/3283_2.png) [@k9bfriender](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/k9bfriender)\
**Post date:** [July 11, 2022, 11:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-ilmvi-for-complaining-incessantly-about-acronyms/943142/264 "2022-07-11T23:06:26Z")

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> [@Riemann](#):
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> whereas @I_Love_Me_Vol.I demands the right to insert a disruptive toddler tantrum whenever other people are having a technical discussion that includes jargon terminology unfamiliar to him, _even when he has no interest in the content of the thread_.

Or, as in the case of the reanimating of this thread, has a tantrum because they _predict_ that someone will come into the thread with jargon unfamiliar to them, even if it has not actually happened.

> [@I\_Love\_Me\_Vol.I](#):
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> I, of course, can’t win now, Once one lemming starts walking toward that cliff, the rest won’t be able to stop themselves.

And in this thread, preemptively declaring anyone who doesn’t agree with them a lemming, following the herd (and I wonder if by this insult, they are also ignorant of the myth of the lemmings), rather than taking any self reflection that maybe the disagreement has merit.

> [@I\_Love\_Me\_Vol.I](#):
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> The parallels with MAGA America are evident. This which will cause even more tears and bed-wetting, and more fear of bucking the trend.

And of course, more feckless insults to anyone who doesn’t mindlessly agree with ILMVI.

> [@I\_Love\_Me\_Vol.I](#):
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> We can therefore expect even more praising of a bad habit that most here don’t even agree with.

And more dime store fortune telling.

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**Author:** ![Darren\_Garrison](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/darren_garrison/32/92_2.png) [@Darren\_Garrison](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Darren_Garrison)\
**Post date:** [July 11, 2022, 11:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-ilmvi-for-complaining-incessantly-about-acronyms/943142/265 "2022-07-11T23:37:53Z")

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> [@LSLGuy](#):
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> That feller sounds like an excellent candidate for ex-friend status.

Yeah, you would say that, lusselguy.

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**Author:** ![Darren\_Garrison](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/darren_garrison/32/92_2.png) [@Darren\_Garrison](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Darren_Garrison)\
**Post date:** [July 11, 2022, 11:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-ilmvi-for-complaining-incessantly-about-acronyms/943142/266 "2022-07-11T23:42:23Z")

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> [@LSLGuy](#):
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> Crap. I forgot to define “OP” on my first use.

Ornery Person.

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**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\
**Post date:** [July 11, 2022, 11:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-ilmvi-for-complaining-incessantly-about-acronyms/943142/267 "2022-07-11T23:42:48Z")

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> [@Darren\_Garrison](#):
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> Ornery Person.

I was thinking Original Pittee.

Have no pity for the Pittee.

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**Author:** ![Riemann](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/riemann/32/3133_2.png) [@Riemann](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Riemann)\
**Post date:** [July 11, 2022, 11:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-ilmvi-for-complaining-incessantly-about-acronyms/943142/268 "2022-07-11T23:55:26Z")

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Optimus Prime.

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**Author:** ![digs](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/digs/32/14889_2.png) [@digs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/digs)\
**Post date:** [July 12, 2022, 12:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-ilmvi-for-complaining-incessantly-about-acronyms/943142/269 "2022-07-12T00:09:27Z")

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> [@LSLGuy](#):
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> That feller sounds like an excellent candidate for ex-friend status.

Actually, he kind of took care of that himself. Stopped coming to the local pub, and isn’t talking to some of us.

None of us know why…though one theory is that he got tired of ATA (Acronyming the Amateurs).

Hey, wait, why am I engaging with someone who hasn’t defined LSL yet?  
Are you a Latverian Sign Language guy? Or just a Little Semi-Loony Guy?

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**Author:** ![ASL\_v2.0](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/asl_v2.0/32/3525_2.png) [@ASL\_v2.0](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ASL_v2.0)\
**Post date:** [July 12, 2022, 12:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-ilmvi-for-complaining-incessantly-about-acronyms/943142/270 "2022-07-12T00:10:46Z")

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> [@k9bfriender](#):
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> > [@I\_Love\_Me\_Vol.I](#):
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> > I, of course, can’t win now, Once one lemming starts walking toward that cliff, the rest won’t be able to stop themselves.
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> And in this thread, preemptively declaring anyone who doesn’t agree with them a lemming, following the herd (and I wonder if by this insult, they are also ignorant of the myth of the lemmings), rather than taking any self reflection that maybe the disagreement has merit.

Which is really hard to square with this:

> [@I\_Love\_Me\_Vol.I](#):
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> A majority of posters agree with me that it’s not a good idea to use terms that your reader probably doesn’t know or understand. This is evident in the earlier parts of this thread where people wondered what the OP was on about; why was I being pitted for upholding best practices?

I mean which is it? Are you among the grammatically correct moral majority, or are you the standout shaking their head as the mass of lemmings go by? Pick a lane and follow it, will you? (But please don’t go walking off a cliff. I mean, I hate it when you disrupt threads over acronyms but I don’t want you to _hurt_ yourself).

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**Author:** ![Darren\_Garrison](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/darren_garrison/32/92_2.png) [@Darren\_Garrison](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Darren_Garrison)\
**Post date:** [July 12, 2022, 12:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-ilmvi-for-complaining-incessantly-about-acronyms/943142/271 "2022-07-12T00:13:11Z")

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> [@digs](#):
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> Hey, wait, why am I engaging with someone who hasn’t defined LSL yet?  
> Are you a Latverian Sign Language guy? Or just a Little Semi-Loony Guy?

I assume he loves Scandinavian lesbians.

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**Author:** ![digs](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/digs/32/14889_2.png) [@digs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/digs)\
**Post date:** [July 12, 2022, 12:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-ilmvi-for-complaining-incessantly-about-acronyms/943142/272 "2022-07-12T00:32:07Z")

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I mean, once you get to know them, who doesn’t?

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DIdn’t we have a woman who was a little “off”…aha, I remembered her handle: **James Otto Lover** (mediocre “Christian” country “singer”).

So maybe this dude is your basic [**Leland Sklar**](https://makingmusicmag.com/traveling-through-bass-and-time-with-lee-sklar/) **Lover** …

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**Author:** ![LSLGuy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lslguy/32/5813_2.png) [@LSLGuy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LSLGuy)\
**Post date:** [July 12, 2022, 12:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-ilmvi-for-complaining-incessantly-about-acronyms/943142/273 "2022-07-12T00:46:08Z")

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> [@digs](#):
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> > [@LSLGuy](#):
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> > That feller sounds like an excellent candidate for ex-friend status.
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> Actually, he kind of took care of that himself. Stopped coming to the local pub, and isn’t talking to some of us.
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> None of us know why…though one theory is that he got tired of ATA (Acronyming the Amateurs).  
> …

This

> [@digs](#):
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> Edited To Add :-} Oh, just remembered that he’ll take an obscure acronym and pronounce it as a word, in a non-standard way. I remember him referring to a Meery… that time we asked Whaaa…?  
> “A Meery… I’m surprised you don’t know what an MRI is. They slide you into a machine that uses…”

is what sealed the deal for me thinking he deserved unfriending: As the Lieutenant said on _Galaxy Quest_: “Oooh, that aint’ right!”

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**Author:** ![LSLGuy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lslguy/32/5813_2.png) [@LSLGuy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LSLGuy)\
**Post date:** [July 12, 2022, 12:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-ilmvi-for-complaining-incessantly-about-acronyms/943142/274 "2022-07-12T00:50:36Z")

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In the spirit of the other current acronym thread I’ll explain that even Emily Litella knows LSL stands for the Louisiana Stage Lugers. Who exploit the steep mountains and icy conditions in their home state to achieve Olympic gold on some insane sleds. With gator-skinned seats.

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**Author:** ![digs](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/digs/32/14889_2.png) [@digs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/digs)\
**Post date:** [July 12, 2022, 2:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-ilmvi-for-complaining-incessantly-about-acronyms/943142/275 "2022-07-12T02:04:03Z")

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Day-um, that sounds badass… and it’d be a blast. Are there any videos?

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**Author:** ![LSLGuy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lslguy/32/5813_2.png) [@LSLGuy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LSLGuy)\
**Post date:** [July 12, 2022, 2:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-ilmvi-for-complaining-incessantly-about-acronyms/943142/276 "2022-07-12T02:28:31Z")

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And I typoed. Gaah! That’s Louisiana Sta **t** e Lugers.

Not Stage Lugers; that way makes no sense. 😉

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