# I pit internet assholes! (RO) **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [February 10, 2009, 1:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-internet-assholes-ro/485207 "2009-02-10T13:35:55Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![catsix](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/e19b73/32.png) [@catsix](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/catsix)\ **Post date:** [February 10, 2009, 6:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-internet-assholes-ro/485207/21 "2009-02-10T18:28:12Z")
> [@](#): > > **George Kaplin** said: > Why are you and catsix bringing that into this completely unrelated thread? Because it’s pretty damned hypocritical for an unrepentant, victim blaming criminal to start tossing around the recreational outrage at another completely unrepentant criminal. Particularly when both **ivan** and the target of his outrage here are both so willfully ignorant of the wrongness of their own actions. In other words, **Scumpup** and I are in complete agreement that **ivan** is a hypocritical piece of shit who couldn’t apply logic if it came in a spray can. ---
**Author:** ![VinylTurnip](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/b2d939/32.png) [@VinylTurnip](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/VinylTurnip)\ **Post date:** [February 10, 2009, 6:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-internet-assholes-ro/485207/22 "2009-02-10T18:38:01Z")
> [@SteveG1](#): > > Thanks for the summary. If it is for real, the guy is a shit on a stick. If the “Walmart guy” and the “911 guy” were “actors” instead of the real thing, then it’s still not funny. What if they really did kidnap an 8-year-old, and he’s bound and gagged in a dog kennel off-camera? That’d be pretty funny. ---
**Author:** ![HongKongFooey](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/c4cdca/32.png) [@HongKongFooey](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/HongKongFooey)\ **Post date:** [February 10, 2009, 6:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-internet-assholes-ro/485207/23 "2009-02-10T18:42:11Z")
And the wig is actually his Grandma’s scalp? Oh ho ho, that’d be a sweet joke! ---
**Author:** ![ivan\_astikov](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/58f4c7/32.png) [@ivan\_astikov](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ivan_astikov)\ **Post date:** [February 10, 2009, 6:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-internet-assholes-ro/485207/24 "2009-02-10T18:58:07Z")
Those of you with thoughtful, inventive or amusing responses, thank you. Those of you wanting to have a whine and a bitch about my behaviour elsewhere…suck it up, you one dimensional fuckwits! ---
**Author:** ![jali](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ecae2f/32.png) [@jali](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jali)\ **Post date:** [February 10, 2009, 7:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-internet-assholes-ro/485207/25 "2009-02-10T19:01:02Z")
Dear catsix and scumpup, It’s funny - my experiences with ivan astikov have been pleasant. We had a good time with the question game. You two look crazy jumping in here like this. Are you on astikov patrol? So if I say I don’t like the color brown on my walls in one thread, then I post elsewhere that I love to wear brown, will some avenging goofballs shit on my new thread because they didn’t like my opinions in the brown wall thread? Fucked up! ---
**Author:** ![Scumpup](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ce73a5/32.png) [@Scumpup](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Scumpup)\ **Post date:** [February 10, 2009, 7:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-internet-assholes-ro/485207/26 "2009-02-10T19:11:40Z")
Dear Jali, Somewhere in there you forgot to articulate why I should value your evaluation of how I look. If Ivan’s thread here isn’t what he wanted it to be, then he’s in no worse shape than the people who started the GD threads that he knowingly, willingly, and trollfully turned into “all about Ivan” threads. He’s his own favorite subject, so he should be delighted that I’m here talking about him. I refuse to participate in anybody else’s threads getting turned to shit by discussing him. We can confine that activity to his own threads. ---
**Author:** ![George\_Kaplin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/3e96dc/32.png) [@George\_Kaplin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/George_Kaplin)\ **Post date:** [February 10, 2009, 7:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-internet-assholes-ro/485207/27 "2009-02-10T19:15:06Z")
> [@Scumpup](#): > > 1. Because unrepentant criminals ought not to be engaging in RO at other criminals. > 2. Because I can. May I suggest you open another thread about this particular issue if it’s bugging you? Like him or not, **astikov** pitted someone who deserved to be pitted. I don’t get the appeal of these ‘Recreational Outrage’ threads myself, but presumably some people do. I don’t suppose they care as much about **astikov** as you do. Besides, on a personal note, continuing old conflicts in new threads is just a little unseemly. YMMV. ---
**Author:** ![SteveG1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bb73d2/32.png) [@SteveG1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SteveG1)\ **Post date:** [February 10, 2009, 7:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-internet-assholes-ro/485207/28 "2009-02-10T19:16:10Z")
> [@jali](#): > > Dear catsix and scumpup, > > It’s funny - my experiences with ivan astikov have been pleasant. We had a good time with the question game. > > You two look crazy jumping in here like this. Are you on astikov patrol? > > So if I say I don’t like the color brown on my walls in one thread, then I post elsewhere that I love to wear brown, will some avenging goofballs shit on my new thread because they didn’t like my opinions in the brown wall thread? > > Fucked up! They would only be pointing out your deplorable lack of consistency. You hate brown. But you like it elsewhere (when it’s convenient for you). That makes you a bad person and a flip flopper 😃 ---
**Author:** ![ivan\_astikov](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/58f4c7/32.png) [@ivan\_astikov](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ivan_astikov)\ **Post date:** [February 10, 2009, 7:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-internet-assholes-ro/485207/29 "2009-02-10T19:16:16Z")
I appreciate your moral support, **Jali**. For those of you who want to attack my pitting rather than me, I’ll explain my outrage a bit more clearly. In my clip I linked to someone who I thought was a true ‘internet asshole’, because he was actually using the net to propagate his warped mentality. As already stated, even if this was all an act, it wasn’t in the slightest bit funny, and if true, it merely encourages nastiness if the the fucker can’t be made to pay for it when he is there clear as a bell to be recognised. Now, I was unaware that being an ex-criminal exempted me from recreational outrage about certain subjects, so I probably should thank some of you for fighting my ignorance…nah, fuck it! It’s all part of the Dope service, I expect. ---
**Author:** ![jali](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ecae2f/32.png) [@jali](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jali)\ **Post date:** [February 10, 2009, 7:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-internet-assholes-ro/485207/30 "2009-02-10T19:16:45Z")
> [@Scumpup](#): > > Dear Jali, > > Somewhere in there you forgot to articulate why I should value your evaluation of how I look. > > If Ivan’s thread here isn’t what he wanted it to be, then he’s in no worse shape than the people who started the GD threads that he knowingly, willingly, and trollfully turned into “all about Ivan” threads. > > He’s his own favorite subject, so he should be delighted that I’m here talking about him. I refuse to participate in anybody else’s threads getting turned to shit by discussing him. We can confine that activity to his own threads. So… you don’t like him and you want to make sure that we all don’t like him. You remind me of David Miller class of 1971, St, Pascal Baylon School - when David was in 5th grade. ---
**Author:** ![HongKongFooey](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/c4cdca/32.png) [@HongKongFooey](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/HongKongFooey)\ **Post date:** [February 10, 2009, 7:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-internet-assholes-ro/485207/31 "2009-02-10T19:17:25Z")
It fits this thread I think; their point is that it’s hypocritical to pit these pranksters while making excuses for hard-core criminals. ---
**Author:** ![Scumpup](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ce73a5/32.png) [@Scumpup](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Scumpup)\ **Post date:** [February 10, 2009, 7:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-internet-assholes-ro/485207/32 "2009-02-10T19:19:05Z")
> [@jali](#): > > So… you don’t like him and you want to make sure that we all don’t like him. You remind me of David Miller class of 1971, St, Pascal Baylon School - when David was in 5th grade. Though it may be brusque, so? ---
**Author:** ![catsix](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/e19b73/32.png) [@catsix](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/catsix)\ **Post date:** [February 10, 2009, 7:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-internet-assholes-ro/485207/33 "2009-02-10T19:20:31Z")
> [@](#): > > **ivan astikov** said: > In my clip I linked to someone who I thought was a true ‘internet asshole’, because he was actually using the net to propagate his warped mentality. As already stated, even if this was all an act, it wasn’t in the slightest bit funny, and if true, it merely encourages nastiness if the the fucker can’t be made to pay for it when he is there clear as a bell to be recognised. How is this any different from what you did in the two threads in Great Debates about guns and self protection? You used the Internet to promote your warped mentality that it was the fault of the people that you burglarized because they didn’t do enough to keep you out, to the point where you made both of those threads completely about you. This thread is evidence of the fact that in addition to being an unrepentant criminal and a self-important asshole, you are also a hypocrite. ---
**Author:** ![Jack\_Batty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jack_batty/32/3201_2.png) [@Jack\_Batty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jack_Batty)\ **Post date:** [February 10, 2009, 7:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-internet-assholes-ro/485207/34 "2009-02-10T19:20:56Z")
I didn’t see where he was excusing hard-core criminals … but like I said, I didn’t slog through both trainwrecks, so maybe I missed it. I thought he was presenting points on the issue from a criminal’s point of view (from what little I read). Maybe not a position borne of sterling moral fortitude, but it’s a valid one, considering the argument. ---
**Author:** ![jali](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ecae2f/32.png) [@jali](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jali)\ **Post date:** [February 10, 2009, 7:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-internet-assholes-ro/485207/35 "2009-02-10T19:21:18Z")
> [@SteveG1](#): > > They would only be pointing out your deplorable lack of consistency. You hate brown. But you like it elsewhere (when it’s convenient for you). That makes you a bad person and a flip flopper 😃 I’m an excellent flip flopper. I’ve won awards in certain areas of flip flopping. Oh… (frowning, confused) Maybe we’re not talking about the same thing… ---
**Author:** ![Sapo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ec9cab/32.png) [@Sapo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sapo)\ **Post date:** [February 10, 2009, 7:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-internet-assholes-ro/485207/36 "2009-02-10T19:21:45Z")
> [@jali](#): > > Dear catsix and scumpup, > > It’s funny - my experiences with ivan astikov have been pleasant. We had a good time with the question game. > > You two look crazy jumping in here like this. Are you on astikov patrol? > > So if I say I don’t like the color brown on my walls in one thread, then I post elsewhere that I love to wear brown, will some avenging goofballs shit on my new thread because they didn’t like my opinions in the brown wall thread? > > Fucked up! Brown and shit really go together. You had it coming, buster. ---
**Author:** ![SteveG1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bb73d2/32.png) [@SteveG1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SteveG1)\ **Post date:** [February 10, 2009, 7:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-internet-assholes-ro/485207/37 "2009-02-10T19:23:31Z")
> [@ivan\_astikov](#): > > I appreciate your moral support, **Jali**. > > For those of you who want to attack my pitting rather than me, I’ll explain my outrage a bit more clearly. > > In my clip I linked to someone who I thought was a true ‘internet asshole’, because he was actually using the net to propagate his warped mentality. As already stated, even if this was all an act, it wasn’t in the slightest bit funny, and if true, it merely encourages nastiness if the the fucker can’t be made to pay for it when he is there clear as a bell to be recognised. > > Now, I was unaware that being an ex-criminal exempted me from recreational outrage about certain subjects, so I probably should thank some of you for fighting my ignorance…nah, fuck it! It’s all part of the Dope service, I expect. If all that was in the past, it should be left there. That is unless you were kidnapping little kids and putting them in the dog kennel, while wearing Granny’s bloody scalp. In that case, sell the rights and make a slasher movie. :eek: ---
**Author:** ![jali](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ecae2f/32.png) [@jali](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jali)\ **Post date:** [February 10, 2009, 7:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-internet-assholes-ro/485207/38 "2009-02-10T19:25:13Z")
> [@Scumpup](#): > > Though it may be brusque, so? Sew sew sew your pants! ---
**Author:** ![Scumpup](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ce73a5/32.png) [@Scumpup](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Scumpup)\ **Post date:** [February 10, 2009, 7:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-internet-assholes-ro/485207/39 "2009-02-10T19:25:35Z")
> [@HongKongFooey](#): > > It fits this thread I think; their point is that it’s hypocritical to pit these pranksters while making excuses for hard-core criminals. Exactly right. ---
**Author:** ![Beware\_of\_Doug](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/278dde/32.png) [@Beware\_of\_Doug](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Beware_of_Doug)\ **Post date:** [February 10, 2009, 7:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-internet-assholes-ro/485207/40 "2009-02-10T19:31:05Z")
The guy is pretty sad. He probably thinks he’s doing social engineering, which is like plugging all the stuff in the house into one outlet and thinking you’re doing electrical engineering. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-internet-assholes-ro/485207.md?page=1) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-internet-assholes-ro/485207.md?page=3)