# I pit internet assholes! (RO)

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-internet-assholes-ro/485207>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [February 10, 2009, 1:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-internet-assholes-ro/485207 "2009-02-10T13:35:55Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Scumpup](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ce73a5/32.png) [@Scumpup](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Scumpup)\
**Post date:** [February 11, 2009, 3:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-internet-assholes-ro/485207/81 "2009-02-11T03:36:39Z")

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To be fair to **ivan** , though, we must assume that “running was not an option.”

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**Author:** ![jali](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ecae2f/32.png) [@jali](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jali)\
**Post date:** [February 11, 2009, 11:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-internet-assholes-ro/485207/82 "2009-02-11T11:49:23Z")

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> [@Scumpup](#):
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> To be fair to **ivan** , though, we must assume that “running was not an option.”

That’s Mr. astikov to you, bub.😃

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**Author:** ![ivan\_astikov](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/58f4c7/32.png) [@ivan\_astikov](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ivan_astikov)\
**Post date:** [February 11, 2009, 12:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-internet-assholes-ro/485207/83 "2009-02-11T12:40:31Z")

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Oh dear, is it the ‘homosexual rape jibe’ time already?

I think some of you might have watched one too many episodes of “Oz”! And enjoyed the rape scenes and the pretty little convicts dressed up as girlies. Apart from you **Guin** …you’re just a little warped.

It’s all about projection, I think.

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**Author:** ![BubbaDog](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bubbadog/32/333_2.png) [@BubbaDog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BubbaDog)\
**Post date:** [February 11, 2009, 1:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-internet-assholes-ro/485207/84 "2009-02-11T13:50:53Z")

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> [@Jolly\_Roger](#):
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> I’ve butted heads with **Scumpup** before but it was in a thread that I don’t even consider serious. I don’t think he’s an asshole though, I have no reason to. He may be hotheaded but a lot of us are.
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> In the threads cited though \*\*Scumpup \*\*is not wrong IMO.

Well I meant asshole in the nicest of ways.

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**Author:** ![ivan\_astikov](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/58f4c7/32.png) [@ivan\_astikov](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ivan_astikov)\
**Post date:** [February 11, 2009, 2:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-internet-assholes-ro/485207/85 "2009-02-11T14:48:30Z")

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> [@BubbaDog](#):
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> Well I meant asshole in the nicest of ways.

You mean, a well-wiped, tightly puckered up asshole that smells of roses, but is still full of shit?

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**Author:** ![Baldwin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/baldwin/32/7264_2.png) [@Baldwin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Baldwin)\
**Post date:** [February 11, 2009, 2:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-internet-assholes-ro/485207/86 "2009-02-11T14:55:01Z")

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> [@Baldwin](#):
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> I’m curious – have you tried to make reparations to the people you victimized? Have you at least apologized to them personally?

Quoting myself because I’m still curious. Answer the question, Ivan.

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**Author:** ![ivan\_astikov](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/58f4c7/32.png) [@ivan\_astikov](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ivan_astikov)\
**Post date:** [February 11, 2009, 3:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-internet-assholes-ro/485207/87 "2009-02-11T15:11:42Z")

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> [@Baldwin](#):
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> Quoting myself because I’m still curious. Answer the question, Ivan.

The answer is “No.” My last offence was around 26 years ago, and I’ll admit, it never really occured to me then to go and apologise to everyone whose home I had violated. What do you think the result would have been, had I done so?

(Funnily enough, it was never ever suggested by any of the authorities I came into contact with, either. )

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**Author:** ![BubbaDog](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bubbadog/32/333_2.png) [@BubbaDog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BubbaDog)\
**Post date:** [February 11, 2009, 3:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-internet-assholes-ro/485207/88 "2009-02-11T15:23:22Z")

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> [@ivan\_astikov](#):
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> You mean, a well-wiped, tightly puckered up asshole that smells of roses, but is still full of shit?

Sorry **Ivan**. My comments about **Scumpup** kept you from being the center of attention.

I must admit. I’m not that familiar with your close-up observation of assholes. Perhaps we have different hobbies.

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**Author:** ![ivan\_astikov](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/58f4c7/32.png) [@ivan\_astikov](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ivan_astikov)\
**Post date:** [February 11, 2009, 3:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-internet-assholes-ro/485207/89 "2009-02-11T15:28:00Z")

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> [@BubbaDog](#):
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> Sorry **Ivan**. My comments about **Scumpup** kept you from being the center of attention.
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> I must admit. I’m not that familiar with your close-up observation of assholes. Perhaps we have different hobbies.

The detailed description was for the benefit of Scumpup. He seems to have an inordinate interest in what goes on down there! 😉

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**Author:** ![Baldwin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/baldwin/32/7264_2.png) [@Baldwin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Baldwin)\
**Post date:** [February 11, 2009, 3:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-internet-assholes-ro/485207/90 "2009-02-11T15:46:07Z")

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> [@ivan\_astikov](#):
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> The answer is “No.” My last offence was around 26 years ago, and I’ll admit, it never really occured to me then to go and apologise to everyone whose home I had violated. What do you think the result would have been, had I done so?

I don’t know; you might have received one of the several beatings you deserve, which would at least have given your victim some closure. It’s probably not too late.

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**Author:** ![Scumpup](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ce73a5/32.png) [@Scumpup](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Scumpup)\
**Post date:** [February 11, 2009, 3:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-internet-assholes-ro/485207/91 "2009-02-11T15:48:58Z")

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You’re making the prison rape jokes too easy, **ivan**. This

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> You mean, a well-wiped, tightly puckered up asshole that smells of roses, but is still full of shit?

indicates pretty clearly that you’ve tossed a salad or two. How many packs of menthols did you go for?

In any case, I’m not here to talk about me. I’m here to talk about you. More specifically, I’m here to talk about what a cancer you are on this board and, I expect, the world in general. You’re a troll, for certain. Unlike the clumsier trolls, you manage to keep your trollery at a level just below the threshold of moderator action. In the two threads I linked, there is no other word to describe your actions other than trolling. Unfortunately, good and valuable members of this board allowed your smug, irritating tone to upset them enough that the mods descended on _them_. Nothing pleases a troll more than getting someone else in trouble, so I’m sure you’ve read and re-read those posts with undiminishing pleasure.  
In any future gun-related threads where you show your face, I will make it a point\_via PM\_to discourage anybody from falling for your trolling. DNFTT is one of the oldest adages in the cyber world and it is just as valuable today as it was back in the usenet days.

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**Author:** ![ivan\_astikov](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/58f4c7/32.png) [@ivan\_astikov](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ivan_astikov)\
**Post date:** [February 11, 2009, 4:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-internet-assholes-ro/485207/92 "2009-02-11T16:36:46Z")

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> [@Scumpup](#):
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> You’re making the prison rape jokes too easy, **ivan**. This  
> indicates pretty clearly that you’ve tossed a salad or two. How many packs of menthols did you go for?

Not that you are likely to accept it, but fwiw, I never even _heard_ of any ‘salad tossing’ activity during my 6 yrs in one institution or another. It seems to be an activity more particular to US prisons than UK ones, unless you want to try and google up the anecdotes that prove me wrong?

> [@Scumpup](#):
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> In any case, I’m not here to talk about me. I’m here to talk about you. More specifically, I’m here to talk about what a cancer you are on this board and, I expect, the world in general. You’re a troll, for certain. Unlike the clumsier trolls, you manage to keep your trollery at a level just below the threshold of moderator action. In the two threads I linked, there is no other word to describe your actions other than trolling. Unfortunately, good and valuable members of this board allowed your smug, irritating tone to upset them enough that the mods descended on _them_. Nothing pleases a troll more than getting someone else in trouble, so I’m sure you’ve read and re-read those posts with undiminishing pleasure.  
> In any future gun-related threads where you show your face, I will make it a point\_via PM\_to discourage anybody from falling for your trolling. DNFTT is one of the oldest adages in the cyber world and it is just as valuable today as it was back in the usenet days.

Unbunch your panties; you are making a right twat of yourself!

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**Author:** ![ivan\_astikov](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/58f4c7/32.png) [@ivan\_astikov](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ivan_astikov)\
**Post date:** [February 11, 2009, 4:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-internet-assholes-ro/485207/93 "2009-02-11T16:54:50Z")

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> [@Baldwin](#):
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> I don’t know; you might have received one of the several beatings you deserve, which would at least have given your victim some closure. It’s probably not too late.

So, I deserved a few beatings as well as my jail time? Interesting concept of justice you have there!

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**Author:** ![Sapo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ec9cab/32.png) [@Sapo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sapo)\
**Post date:** [February 11, 2009, 5:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-internet-assholes-ro/485207/94 "2009-02-11T17:20:59Z")

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> [@Scumpup](#):
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> In any future gun-related threads where you show your face, I will make it a point\_via PM\_to discourage anybody from falling for your trolling.

Is this a kosher strategy for this board?

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**Author:** ![Scumpup](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ce73a5/32.png) [@Scumpup](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Scumpup)\
**Post date:** [February 11, 2009, 5:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-internet-assholes-ro/485207/95 "2009-02-11T17:27:07Z")

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> [@ivan\_astikov](#):
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> Not that you are likely to accept it, but fwiw, I never even _heard_ of any ‘salad tossing’ activity during my 6 yrs in one institution or another. It seems to be an activity more particular to US prisons than UK ones, unless you want to try and google up the anecdotes that prove me wrong?  
> Unbunch your panties; you are making a right twat of yourself!

See, I’m not here to banter with you. If you were someone with whom I vehemently disagreed on a given topic, but whom I believe to be a fundamentally good-hearted and honest person, then that would be possible.

Take **Kalhoun** for example. She and I are on opposite sides of the gun argument. Her posts, however much I may disagree with them, are honest attempts to articulate her beliefs on that topic. I don’t dislike her. Nor does my disagreement with her make her a troll, IMO.

Your posts, on the other hand, serve no higher purpose than making you the center of attention and causing strife. You are the very type specimen of a troll.  
You seem to be trying to build a sort of “lovable rogue” persona for yourself. Whether that is the effect you are trying for or not, the persona you are succeeding in building is that of a smug, trolling, prick.

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**Author:** ![Scumpup](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ce73a5/32.png) [@Scumpup](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Scumpup)\
**Post date:** [February 11, 2009, 5:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-internet-assholes-ro/485207/96 "2009-02-11T17:29:10Z")

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> [@Sapo](#):
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> Is this a kosher strategy for this board?

To the best of my knowledge, it is not against the rules of this board to PM another member with DNFTT. If it is, then I’ll take my lumps.

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**Author:** ![Giraffe](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/giraffe/32/129_2.png) [@Giraffe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Giraffe)\
**Post date:** [February 11, 2009, 6:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-internet-assholes-ro/485207/97 "2009-02-11T18:07:09Z")

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> [@Scumpup](#):
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> To the best of my knowledge, it is not against the rules of this board to PM another member with DNFTT. If it is, then I’ll take my lumps.

It’s fine to do it in a particular case. It’s not OK to use PM as part of a campaign against a given poster, particularly if you announce your intentions to said poster ahead of time.

So, survey says: please don’t do this.

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**Author:** ![Scumpup](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ce73a5/32.png) [@Scumpup](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Scumpup)\
**Post date:** [February 11, 2009, 6:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-internet-assholes-ro/485207/98 "2009-02-11T18:39:17Z")

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> [@Giraffe](#):
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> It’s fine to do it in a particular case. It’s not OK to use PM as part of a campaign against a given poster, particularly if you announce your intentions to said poster ahead of time.
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> So, survey says: please don’t do this.

Duly noted.

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**Author:** ![ivan\_astikov](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/58f4c7/32.png) [@ivan\_astikov](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ivan_astikov)\
**Post date:** [February 11, 2009, 9:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-internet-assholes-ro/485207/99 "2009-02-11T21:14:08Z")

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> [@Scumpup](#):
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> See, I’m not here to banter with you. If you were someone with whom I vehemently disagreed on a given topic, but whom I believe to be a fundamentally good-hearted and honest person, then that would be possible.
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> Take **Kalhoun** for example. She and I are on opposite sides of the gun argument. Her posts, however much I may disagree with them, are honest attempts to articulate her beliefs on that topic. I don’t dislike her. Nor does my disagreement with her make her a troll, IMO.
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> Your posts, on the other hand, serve no higher purpose than making you the center of attention and causing strife. You are the very type specimen of a troll.  
> You seem to be trying to build a sort of “lovable rogue” persona for yourself. Whether that is the effect you are trying for or not, the persona you are succeeding in building is that of a smug, trolling, prick.

You seem to be mistaking my matter of fact recounting of **the past** as a deliberate attempt to portray myself in a particularly favourable light. You are entitled to that opinion, but it is completely wrong.

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**Author:** ![Bryan\_Ekers](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bryan_ekers/32/183_2.png) [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)\
**Post date:** [February 11, 2009, 11:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-internet-assholes-ro/485207/100 "2009-02-11T23:25:48Z")

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Meh. The prankster and ivan and Rush Limbaugh have one major trait in common: none of them is as funny as they think they are.

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