# I pit ITR Champion and his 'concerns'...

**URL:** https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-itr-champion-and-his-concerns/679063
**Category:** The BBQ Pit
**Created:** [January 17, 2014, 3:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-itr-champion-and-his-concerns/679063 "2014-01-17T15:42:30Z")
**Posts on this page:** 20
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### Author: ![Hentor\_the\_Barbarian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/8edcca/32.png) [@Hentor\_the\_Barbarian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hentor_the_Barbarian)
#### Post date: [September 24, 2014, 3:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-itr-champion-and-his-concerns/679063/81 "2014-09-24T03:13:25Z")

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Essentially every argument the guy makes is founded upon a glaringly obviously distorted perspective on a set of facts. This is reliably so obvious that he ends up getting his ass handed to him every single time.

No wonder ITR stands for Invited to Resign.

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### Author: ![erysichthon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/d07c76/32.png) [@erysichthon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/erysichthon)
#### Post date: [September 24, 2014, 4:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-itr-champion-and-his-concerns/679063/82 "2014-09-24T04:01:48Z")

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> [@John\_DiFool](#):
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> [At it again](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=735250). Most pointless OP of the month?

I almost had Pepsi shooting out my nose when I saw his post complaining about rich Democratic politicians. The first time I noticed ITR, it was [this post](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=17612501&postcount=1) slobbering over Bruce Rauner, the gazillionaire currently trying to buy his way into the Illinois governor’s mansion.

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### Author: ![bucketybuck](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/898d66/32.png) [@bucketybuck](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bucketybuck)
#### Post date: [September 24, 2014, 7:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-itr-champion-and-his-concerns/679063/83 "2014-09-24T07:28:53Z")

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> [@Dissonance](#):
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> I still just want to know what ITR stands for.

**I** ’m **T** he\*\* R\*\*etards Champion.

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### Author: ![Sitnam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/6a8cbe/32.png) [@Sitnam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sitnam)
#### Post date: [September 24, 2014, 2:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-itr-champion-and-his-concerns/679063/84 "2014-09-24T14:57:36Z")

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> [@Hentor\_the\_Barbarian](#):
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> Essentially every argument the guy makes is founded upon a glaringly obviously distorted perspective on a set of facts. This is reliably so obvious that he ends up getting his ass handed to him every single time.

His political threads are not nearly as embarrassing as his religious threads. At least with the political threads it’s just easy to see a hack, his religious ones make his own faith cringe.

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### Author: ![Sitnam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/6a8cbe/32.png) [@Sitnam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sitnam)
#### Post date: [September 24, 2014, 3:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-itr-champion-and-his-concerns/679063/85 "2014-09-24T15:04:31Z")

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It would truly be horrifying if he was indeed the high school science teacher he claims to be.

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### Author: ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)
#### Post date: [September 24, 2014, 3:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-itr-champion-and-his-concerns/679063/86 "2014-09-24T15:37:42Z")

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> [@Sitnam](#):
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> His political threads are not nearly as embarrassing as his religious threads. At least with the political threads it’s just easy to see a hack, his religious ones make his own faith cringe.

Not that I care much, but I’m not even sure what his religion is. I did notice him several years back white-knighting the RCC, but more recent posts have suggested that he’s not a member.

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### Author: ![Lobohan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lobohan/32/79_2.png) [@Lobohan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lobohan)
#### Post date: [September 24, 2014, 6:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-itr-champion-and-his-concerns/679063/87 "2014-09-24T18:54:34Z")

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I recall he has stated that he has evidence for the existence of God, and when pressed he gives a reading list, instead of, you know, explaining and summarizing his position.

He’s a stupid prick.

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### Author: ![Buck\_Godot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/buck_godot/32/6573_2.png) [@Buck\_Godot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Buck_Godot)
#### Post date: [September 24, 2014, 9:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-itr-champion-and-his-concerns/679063/88 "2014-09-24T21:11:40Z")

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> [@YogSosoth](#):
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> Sounds like he got mugged

My theory is he got religion hard, stopped listening to anyone who wasn’t a Christian, and immersed himself in the fundamentalist echo chamber, coming up for air now and then just long enough to tell us why we are all wrong.

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### Author: ![Katriona](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/katriona/32/113_2.png) [@Katriona](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Katriona)
#### Post date: [September 24, 2014, 9:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-itr-champion-and-his-concerns/679063/89 "2014-09-24T21:26:19Z")

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> [@kaylasdad99](#):
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> Not that I care much, but I’m not even sure what his religion is. I did notice him several years back white-knighting the RCC, but more recent posts have suggested that he’s not a member.

IIRC, Episcopalian. People like him are why I left and never went back.

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### Author: ![commasense](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/commasense/32/3017_2.png) [@commasense](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/commasense)
#### Post date: [September 25, 2014, 7:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-itr-champion-and-his-concerns/679063/90 "2014-09-25T19:02:09Z")

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Just in case anyone wants the _real_ meaning of ITR, he apparently races [in this amateur motorsport series](http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Improved_Touring) in one of these cars:

ITR: BMW 328 (E36 body, 1996-1999), Porsche Boxster (2.5-liter engine, 1997-1999), Nissan 300ZX, Acura Integra Type R, Ford Mustang (V6 or 302), Mazda RX-8, Honda S2000.

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### Author: ![John\_DiFool](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_difool/32/19543_2.png) [@John\_DiFool](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_DiFool)
#### Post date: [December 12, 2015, 6:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-itr-champion-and-his-concerns/679063/91 "2015-12-12T18:46:42Z")

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[Are Ivy League and other top universities hotbeds of racism?](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=777766)

[Paris Climate Conference may be breaking up](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=777950)  
He promptly got his ass handed to him in the latter.

From now on, I can pretty much take it on faith that the truth of any matter that he [del]spews[/del] expounds on will be the exact opposite of what he says. What a noble and selfless service he thus performs for the sake of the board’s motto…

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### Author: ![USCDiver](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/uscdiver/32/354_2.png) [@USCDiver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/USCDiver)
#### Post date: [December 12, 2015, 8:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-itr-champion-and-his-concerns/679063/92 "2015-12-12T20:14:18Z")

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> [@John\_DiFool](#):
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> From now on, I can pretty much take it on faith that the truth of any matter that he [del]spews[/del] expounds on will be the exact opposite of what he says. What a noble and selfless service he thus performs for the sake of the board’s motto…

I’m the same way. I saw the thread about the Climate Conference breaking up and got all “Oh no! That’s terrible!” Then I noticed who started the thread and thought “Sweet! Global Warming averted!”

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### Author: ![Frylock](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/ce7236/32.png) [@Frylock](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Frylock)
#### Post date: [December 12, 2015, 8:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-itr-champion-and-his-concerns/679063/93 "2015-12-12T20:29:37Z")

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> [@Karrius](#):
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> ITR Champion first made my radar as “the guy who claimed people who burn down mosques are pro freedom of religion, and liberals are anti freedom of religion”.
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> Dude is basically the shining example of what is wrong with conservatives, how they’re willing to defend anything their side does.

Oh man, I would love to see this thread.

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### Author: ![Frylock](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/ce7236/32.png) [@Frylock](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Frylock)
#### Post date: [December 12, 2015, 8:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-itr-champion-and-his-concerns/679063/94 "2015-12-12T20:32:03Z")

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**ITR Champion** is literally never right, ever, about anything. I have been watching for this. Every fact he cites turns out to be false, and every piece of reasoning he engages in is baldly fallacious or otherwise invalid.

And yet he writes _exactly_ in the tone of a very pompously smart fellow. He has the rhetoric down _pat_.

He is also at least a fraction of the reason why I finally stopped being a Christian, as it happens. At least, his ilk had that role.

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### Author: ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)
#### Post date: [December 12, 2015, 8:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-itr-champion-and-his-concerns/679063/95 "2015-12-12T20:41:23Z")

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> [@Frylock](#):
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> **ITR Champion** is literally never right, ever, about anything. I have been watching for this. Every fact he cites turns out to be false, and every piece of reasoning he engages in is baldly fallacious or otherwise invalid.
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> And yet he writes _exactly_ in the tone of a very pompously smart fellow. He has the rhetoric down _pat_.

It is all typical of [Very Serious People](http://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Very_serious_people).

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### Author: ![John\_Mace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_mace/32/185_2.png) [@John\_Mace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Mace)
#### Post date: [December 12, 2015, 9:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-itr-champion-and-his-concerns/679063/96 "2015-12-12T21:02:45Z")

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The dude is impervious to logic and persuasion. His threads are nothing more than political witnessing, and every time I get caught up in one, I think :smack: what I am even doing.

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### Author: ![septimus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/septimus/32/410_2.png) [@septimus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/septimus)
#### Post date: [December 12, 2015, 9:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-itr-champion-and-his-concerns/679063/97 "2015-12-12T21:12:18Z")

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> [@Shodan](#):
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> … wouldn’t be … pick out … one-trick pony …
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> Regards,  
> Shodan

Hey stupid! Did you ever figure out what “investment” in economics means?

ETA: Oops … that’s the Zombie Shodan I’m addressing. 🙂 Was he as stupid as the one we have now?

ETA: Sorry for the hijack. Yes, ITRC is also stupid … but there Shodan is the Champion!

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### Author: ![Lamar\_Mundane](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/85f322/32.png) [@Lamar\_Mundane](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lamar_Mundane)
#### Post date: [December 13, 2015, 12:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-itr-champion-and-his-concerns/679063/98 "2015-12-13T00:06:08Z")

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**PARIS (Reuters) - The global climate summit in Paris forged a landmark agreement on Saturday, setting the course for a historic transformation of the world’s fossil fuel-driven economy within decades in a bid to arrest global warming.**

> **[With landmark climate accord, world marks turn from fossil fuels](https://news.yahoo.com/final-push-landmark-climate-deal-end-fossil-fuel-040818222.html?nf=1)**
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> By Alister Doyle and Barbara Lewis PARIS (Reuters) - The global climate summit in Paris forged a landmark agreement on Saturday, setting the course for a historic transformation of the world's fossil fuel-driven economy within decades in a bid to...

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### Author: ![nachtmusick](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/ac91a4/32.png) [@nachtmusick](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/nachtmusick)
#### Post date: [December 13, 2015, 12:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-itr-champion-and-his-concerns/679063/99 "2015-12-13T12:24:18Z")

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> [@John\_DiFool](#):
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> [Are Ivy League and other top universities hotbeds of racism?](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=777766)
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> **By my estimation he did pretty well in this one.**
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> [Paris Climate Conference may be breaking up](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=777950)  
> He promptly got his ass handed to him in the latter.  
> **Yup.**
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> From now on, I can pretty much take it on faith that the truth of any matter that he [del]spews[/del] expounds on will be the exact opposite of what he says. What a noble and selfless service he thus performs for the sake of the board’s motto…

He posts eloquently and often in favor of opinions you do not agree with. This is exactly what this board needs if it is not to become an incessant echo chamber of progressive backslapping.

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### Author: ![Kimstu](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/ecd19e/32.png) [@Kimstu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kimstu)
#### Post date: [December 13, 2015, 1:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-itr-champion-and-his-concerns/679063/100 "2015-12-13T13:08:25Z")

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> [@nachtmusick](#):
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> He posts eloquently and often in favor of opinions you do not agree with. This is exactly what this board needs if it is not to become an incessant echo chamber of progressive backslapping.

Posting “eloquently and often” is not enough if one’s trying to successfully present an opposing viewpoint. One must also post informatively and accurately.

And **ITR Champion** ’s track record leaves a lot to be desired in that regard.

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