# I pit Jerome R. Corsi, and his Lying, Stupid Fucking Swiftboat Book. **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [August 14, 2008, 12:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-jerome-r-corsi-and-his-lying-stupid-fucking-swiftboat-book/459967 "2008-08-14T12:46:52Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![John\_Mace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_mace/32/185_2.png) [@John\_Mace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Mace)\ **Post date:** [August 14, 2008, 7:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-jerome-r-corsi-and-his-lying-stupid-fucking-swiftboat-book/459967/21 "2008-08-14T19:49:46Z")
I wouldn’t worry too much unless someone starts making campaign adds based on the book and/or it is picked up by the Cable News shows (Fox, CNN, MSNBC). That’s what hurt Kerry-- not the book itself. ---
**Author:** ![Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e99b99/32.png) [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Diogenes_the_Cynic)\ **Post date:** [August 14, 2008, 8:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-jerome-r-corsi-and-his-lying-stupid-fucking-swiftboat-book/459967/22 "2008-08-14T20:10:22Z")
[QUOTE=John Mace] I wouldn’t worry too much unless someone starts making campaign adds based on the book and/or it is picked up by the Cable News shows (Fox, CNN, MSNBC). That’s what hurt Kerry-- not the book itself. [/QUOTE] Fox has been flogging the Corsi book. Corsi has been a guest multiple times on Hannity’s shows and yesterday O’Reilly was pimping the book on his show. ---
**Author:** ![Skald\_the\_Rhymer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ecccb3/32.png) [@Skald\_the\_Rhymer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skald_the_Rhymer)\ **Post date:** [August 14, 2008, 8:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-jerome-r-corsi-and-his-lying-stupid-fucking-swiftboat-book/459967/23 "2008-08-14T20:16:56Z")
Again I must ask why “fuck you” is used as an invective. Don’t you people like being fucked? ---
**Author:** ![stolichnaya](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bcef8e/32.png) [@stolichnaya](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/stolichnaya)\ **Post date:** [August 14, 2008, 8:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-jerome-r-corsi-and-his-lying-stupid-fucking-swiftboat-book/459967/24 "2008-08-14T20:20:29Z")
I think the impression is supposed to be akin to “suck my dick”. Like, “Fuck you” = “I am going to fuck you\*” “\*homosexually in the butt” But that’s just me theorizin’. ---
**Author:** ![Phlosphr](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/c68b51/32.png) [@Phlosphr](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Phlosphr)\ **Post date:** [August 14, 2008, 8:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-jerome-r-corsi-and-his-lying-stupid-fucking-swiftboat-book/459967/25 "2008-08-14T20:28:31Z")
[QUOTE=Skald the Rhymer] Again I must ask why “fuck you” is used as an invective. Don’t you people like being fucked? [/QUOTE] [NSFW] and [**you-tube video explaining the word fuck**] Well, there are lot’s of uses for the word [fuck](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vYTMb5DpEKo). 😃 ---
**Author:** ![John\_Mace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_mace/32/185_2.png) [@John\_Mace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Mace)\ **Post date:** [August 14, 2008, 9:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-jerome-r-corsi-and-his-lying-stupid-fucking-swiftboat-book/459967/26 "2008-08-14T21:30:56Z")
[QUOTE=Diogenes the Cynic] Fox has been flogging the Corsi book. Corsi has been a guest multiple times on Hannity’s shows and yesterday O’Reilly was pimping the book on his show. [/QUOTE] Do you do anything other than watch FoxNews? I would be very surprised if O’Reilly was “pimping” the book. He was pretty critical of the Swifties back when they were topical. Can you link to a transcript of the show? ---
**Author:** ![Frank](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/3d9bf3/32.png) [@Frank](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Frank)\ **Post date:** [August 14, 2008, 9:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-jerome-r-corsi-and-his-lying-stupid-fucking-swiftboat-book/459967/27 "2008-08-14T21:33:44Z")
[QUOTE=John Mace] I wouldn’t worry too much unless someone starts making campaign adds based on the book and/or it is picked up by the Cable News shows (Fox, CNN, MSNBC). [/QUOTE] The quote in my post is from CNN’s Larry King show. ---
**Author:** ![Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e99b99/32.png) [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Diogenes_the_Cynic)\ **Post date:** [August 14, 2008, 9:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-jerome-r-corsi-and-his-lying-stupid-fucking-swiftboat-book/459967/28 "2008-08-14T21:40:28Z")
[QUOTE=John Mace] Do you do anything other than watch FoxNews? I would be very surprised if O’Reilly was “pimping” the book. He was pretty critical of the Swifties back when they were topical. Can you link to a transcript of the show? [/QUOTE] [http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,403742,00.html](http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,403742,00.html) He was showing the graphic and talking about it during his daily “Talking Points” drivel. ---
**Author:** ![John\_Mace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_mace/32/185_2.png) [@John\_Mace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Mace)\ **Post date:** [August 14, 2008, 9:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-jerome-r-corsi-and-his-lying-stupid-fucking-swiftboat-book/459967/29 "2008-08-14T21:48:44Z")
[QUOTE=Diogenes the Cynic] [http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,403742,00.html](http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,403742,00.html) He was showing the graphic and talking about it during his daily “Talking Points” drivel. [/QUOTE] That’s not pimping the book. He’s pimping his show-- he want’s Obama on to bump up his ratings. Unless you want to say that the NYT is “pimping” the book… ---
**Author:** ![Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e99b99/32.png) [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Diogenes_the_Cynic)\ **Post date:** [August 14, 2008, 9:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-jerome-r-corsi-and-his-lying-stupid-fucking-swiftboat-book/459967/30 "2008-08-14T21:53:13Z")
[QUOTE=John Mace] That’s not pimping the book. He’s pimping his show-- he want’s Obama on to bump up his ratings. Unless you want to say that the NYT is “pimping” the book… [/QUOTE] Well, he’s giving it publicity. he’s holding it up and talking about in an uncritical way (and there was a gloating _tone_ about it which does not translate to the text). Don’t forget the point was only that Fox “has picked it up.” ---
**Author:** ![MovieMogul](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f08c70/32.png) [@MovieMogul](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MovieMogul)\ **Post date:** [August 14, 2008, 10:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-jerome-r-corsi-and-his-lying-stupid-fucking-swiftboat-book/459967/31 "2008-08-14T22:27:59Z")
[The Obama campaign responds](http://www.salon.com/politics/war_room/2008/08/14/obama_responds_to_corsi/index.html): > [@](#): > > Sometime Thursday afternoon, Barack Obama’s campaign will be sending out to reporters a 39-page book mocking Jerome Corsi, featuring blurbs calling Corsi’s error-filled new anti-Obama book “trash” and “poisonous,” which aims to deliver two messages to the political world. > > One, Corsi’s book isn’t worth the paper it’s printed on, and two – maybe more important – unlike John Kerry four years ago, Obama isn’t just going to sit back and take it while things get out of hand… > > Obama’s H.Q. isn’t really worried that Corsi’s book will convert readers – the bulk sales to conservative groups that fueled the book’s rise on the bestseller list make it clear that Corsi is preaching to the choir. What aides do worry about is the phony charges in the book – like Obama’s alleged secret Muslim ties, or a hidden drug habit – might make their way into the media echo chamber without a response. If the book is going to get publicity, strategists want to make sure their version gets told, too – right down to Corsi’s other wacky theories, like the one about how oil is actually a renewable resource. “We’re going to make sure that every time the book is discussed, everyone who reads about it also reads that he got a bunch of things wrong,” Vietor said. “He’s a discredited liar. He’s peddling garbage to continue the Bush-Cheney politics he helped perpetuate four years ago.” ---
**Author:** ![Bryan\_Ekers](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bryan_ekers/32/183_2.png) [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)\ **Post date:** [August 14, 2008, 10:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-jerome-r-corsi-and-his-lying-stupid-fucking-swiftboat-book/459967/32 "2008-08-14T22:52:30Z")
[QUOTE=stolichnaya] It’s a good bet that this book got a once-over from the proverbial “team of lawyers” to assure that it doesn’t rise to the level of libel. But it would be an interesting gesture, anyway. The bad way that this ends is, you sue someone for libel, you are unable to win, and that is used as evidence that the book is 100% true. [/QUOTE] I think Obama, if asked about this, should say “I was thinking about suing him for libel but [shrug] he’s not worth the effort.” And then nothing else about Corsi, ever again. ---
**Author:** ![jayjay](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jayjay/32/6765_2.png) [@jayjay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jayjay)\ **Post date:** [August 14, 2008, 11:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-jerome-r-corsi-and-his-lying-stupid-fucking-swiftboat-book/459967/33 "2008-08-14T23:33:36Z")
[QUOTE=ivylass] Well, on the plus side, you get to pick the rich woman. Elizabeth Taylor? Oprah? Angelina Jolie? 😉 [/QUOTE] Considering just who Angelina Jolie’s significant other is, I’d vie for the job of being her pussy… ---
**Author:** ![Boyo\_Jim](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/87869e/32.png) [@Boyo\_Jim](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Boyo_Jim)\ **Post date:** [August 15, 2008, 1:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-jerome-r-corsi-and-his-lying-stupid-fucking-swiftboat-book/459967/34 "2008-08-15T01:41:04Z")
[QUOTE=Diogenes the Cynic] … Facts don’t matter to the audience for these books any more than the plot matters to those who watch gay army guy porn… [/QUOTE] Oh, c’mon, get your basic facts right. That’s gay _navy_ porn. Everybody knows that’s the big dog in gay military porn. ---
**Author:** ![jayjay](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jayjay/32/6765_2.png) [@jayjay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jayjay)\ **Post date:** [August 15, 2008, 2:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-jerome-r-corsi-and-his-lying-stupid-fucking-swiftboat-book/459967/35 "2008-08-15T02:11:27Z")
[QUOTE=Boyo Jim] Oh, c’mon, get your basic facts right. That’s gay _navy_ porn. Everybody knows that’s the big dog in gay military porn. [/QUOTE] Actually, it’s Marines. Whether most of the guys IN gay Marine porn are actually Marines or not, I have no idea, but the top branch is definitely Marines. ---
**Author:** ![Boyo\_Jim](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/87869e/32.png) [@Boyo\_Jim](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Boyo_Jim)\ **Post date:** [August 15, 2008, 2:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-jerome-r-corsi-and-his-lying-stupid-fucking-swiftboat-book/459967/36 "2008-08-15T02:15:26Z")
[QUOTE=jayjay] Actually, it’s Marines. Whether most of the guys IN gay Marine porn are actually Marines or not, I have no idea, but the top branch is definitely Marines. [/QUOTE] No, not quite. They hire a lot of Marines from Camp Pendleton to perform in regular straight porn, but the fantasy military porn is Navy all the way. My cite is The Village People. 😃 ---
**Author:** ![stolichnaya](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bcef8e/32.png) [@stolichnaya](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/stolichnaya)\ **Post date:** [August 15, 2008, 2:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-jerome-r-corsi-and-his-lying-stupid-fucking-swiftboat-book/459967/37 "2008-08-15T02:28:32Z")
> [@](#): > > “We’re going to make sure that every time the book is discussed, everyone who reads about it also reads that he got a bunch of things wrong,” Vietor said. “He’s a discredited liar. He’s peddling garbage to continue the Bush-Cheney politics he helped perpetuate four years ago.” This literally gave me chills. (I may have a problem.) ---
**Author:** ![The\_Weird\_One](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/7bcc69/32.png) [@The\_Weird\_One](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Weird_One)\ **Post date:** [August 15, 2008, 3:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-jerome-r-corsi-and-his-lying-stupid-fucking-swiftboat-book/459967/38 "2008-08-15T03:17:04Z")
[QUOTE=Bryan Ekers] I think Obama, if asked about this, should say “I was thinking about suing him for libel but [shrug] he’s not worth the effort.” And then nothing else about Corsi, ever again. [/QUOTE] I couldn’t disagree more strongly. John Kerry took that approach, and it may have lost him the election. I’m glad that Obama is confronting this bully, not ignoring him. ---
**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\ **Post date:** [August 15, 2008, 3:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-jerome-r-corsi-and-his-lying-stupid-fucking-swiftboat-book/459967/39 "2008-08-15T03:21:16Z")
[Preface to the book.](http://www.nytimes.com/2008/08/13/books/chapters/chapter-obama-nation.html) ---
**Author:** ![wring](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/838e76/32.png) [@wring](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wring)\ **Post date:** [August 15, 2008, 3:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-jerome-r-corsi-and-his-lying-stupid-fucking-swiftboat-book/459967/40 "2008-08-15T03:29:30Z")
[QUOTE=The Weird One] I couldn’t disagree more strongly. John Kerry took that approach, and it may have lost him the election. I’m glad that Obama is confronting this bully, not ignoring him. [/QUOTE] yep [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-jerome-r-corsi-and-his-lying-stupid-fucking-swiftboat-book/459967.md?page=1) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-jerome-r-corsi-and-his-lying-stupid-fucking-swiftboat-book/459967.md?page=3)