# I Pit John Galt Wannabes

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-john-galt-wannabes/640295>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [November 7, 2012, 11:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-john-galt-wannabes/640295 "2012-11-07T23:33:41Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Darth\_Panda](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ee7513/32.png) [@Darth\_Panda](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Darth_Panda)\
**Post date:** [November 8, 2012, 7:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-john-galt-wannabes/640295/41 "2012-11-08T19:03:29Z")

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> [@Colibri](#):
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> What do you think the odds are that any of them speak a second language?

Most of them already sound like they’re speaking a second language, but I don’t think it’s intentional.

Or, to put in a more pit-freindly way: Does fucktard count as a language?

FWIW, I actually liked Atlas Shrugged and have some (quasi-) libertarian beliefs. So, there’s that.

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**Author:** ![Misnomer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/misnomer/32/14897_2.png) [@Misnomer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Misnomer)\
**Post date:** [November 8, 2012, 7:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-john-galt-wannabes/640295/42 "2012-11-08T19:10:33Z")

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> [@silenus](#):
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> And all of them socialist. To find a non-socialist bolthole, you have to start looking at 3rd world pits. The more advanced 3rd world countries have too many socialist leanings to be comfortable.

Fair enough. In my case, however, I’d have been leaving a specific country – not a system/party/etc.

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**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\
**Post date:** [November 8, 2012, 7:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-john-galt-wannabes/640295/43 "2012-11-08T19:16:35Z")

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Rugged individualism is crap. We are monkeys. Ten monkeys is a tribe, they cooperate and survive, even thrive. One monkey is a dead monkey.

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**Author:** ![zoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/zoid/32/336_2.png) [@zoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/zoid)\
**Post date:** [November 8, 2012, 7:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-john-galt-wannabes/640295/44 "2012-11-08T19:31:20Z")

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> [@elucidator](#):
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> Rugged individualism is crap. We are monkeys. Ten monkeys is a tribe, they cooperate and survive, even thrive. One monkey is a dead monkey.

Not if you’re [Rambo Monkey](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X3NDWWqU7hI).

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**Author:** ![Darth\_Panda](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ee7513/32.png) [@Darth\_Panda](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Darth_Panda)\
**Post date:** [November 8, 2012, 7:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-john-galt-wannabes/640295/45 "2012-11-08T19:38:06Z")

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> [@elucidator](#):
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> Rugged individualism is crap. We are monkeys. Ten monkeys is a tribe, they cooperate and survive, even thrive. One monkey is a dead monkey.

About the only place you can survive as a loner is in the city.

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**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\
**Post date:** [November 8, 2012, 7:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-john-galt-wannabes/640295/46 "2012-11-08T19:54:45Z")

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> [@zoid](#):
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> Not if you’re [Rambo Monkey](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X3NDWWqU7hI).

Ah, the gorilla my dreams!

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**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\
**Post date:** [November 8, 2012, 9:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-john-galt-wannabes/640295/47 "2012-11-08T21:04:31Z")

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> [@bahimes](#):
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> Do they think it is any easier to deal with immigration in other countries than it is in the US?

Well, those countries are all socialist, right? So all you do is sneak in and apply for welfare, and then the government gives you a free phone and all the food stamps you want, and after you spend it all on Cadillacs and lobster, you just go right back and they give you some more.

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**Author:** ![Budget\_Player\_Cadet](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/budget_player_cadet/32/205_2.png) [@Budget\_Player\_Cadet](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Budget_Player_Cadet)\
**Post date:** [November 8, 2012, 9:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-john-galt-wannabes/640295/48 "2012-11-08T21:33:10Z")

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> [@Smapti](#):
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> Well, those countries are all socialist, right? So all you do is sneak in and apply for welfare, and then the government gives you a free phone and all the food stamps you want, and after you spend it all on Cadillacs and lobster, you just go right back and they give you some more.

You know what I love about this site?

You can tell when people are joking. 😕

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**Author:** ![SteveG1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bb73d2/32.png) [@SteveG1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SteveG1)\
**Post date:** [November 8, 2012, 10:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-john-galt-wannabes/640295/49 "2012-11-08T22:15:47Z")

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> [@Typo\_Negative](#):
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> This is the same as the idiotic ‘I will leave the country if so-and-so is elected’.
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> Blowhards will blow hard and will do nothing.

Trump is calling for a revolt. Terrible Ted Nugent is “crying tears of blood”. I was hoping he would make good on his threat to either be in jail or dead. But he’s always been too much of a fucking coward. Rove is doing some sort of new math to make himself feel better, while his rich donors are screaming because he wasted their money (they couldn’t buy the election). Etc Etc Etc.

Now we are seeing the true colors of all these flag waving phonies who called everyone else traitors.

All I can say is get the fuck out and don’t ever come back.

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**Author:** ![panache45](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/panache45/32/64_2.png) [@panache45](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/panache45)\
**Post date:** [November 8, 2012, 11:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-john-galt-wannabes/640295/50 "2012-11-08T23:59:35Z")

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> [@Budget\_Player\_Cadet](#):
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> You know what I love about this site?
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> You can tell when people are joking. 😕

Yes. And I love the way someone who is criticizing other people gets confused with the people he’s criticizing.

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**Author:** ![vd](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/b19c9b/32.png) [@vd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/vd)\
**Post date:** [November 9, 2012, 4:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-john-galt-wannabes/640295/51 "2012-11-09T04:19:38Z")

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> [@waterj2](#):
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> [The ‘Atlas Shrugged’ Guy Has His Full Say](http://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2012/11/the-atlas-shrugged-guy-has-his-full-say/264612/)

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> I worked avionics and fly by wire systems and missile technology for 16 years and switched to embedded systems, gps and wireless telemetry…

So he makes his money selling to the government and utilizing systems that the government paid for. Damn freeloader.

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**Author:** ![Drain\_Bead](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e47774/32.png) [@Drain\_Bead](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Drain_Bead)\
**Post date:** [November 9, 2012, 5:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-john-galt-wannabes/640295/52 "2012-11-09T17:20:17Z")

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> [@Procrustus](#):
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> I’m glad he’s waiting until the end of the NFL season to cancel his cable subscription. If he did it now I would think he really loves his country. I notice he’s saying “regular season,” so how much do you want to bet that if his team makes the playoffs he’s going to postpone his sacrifice a few more weeks?

Check out the sacrifices that [this guy](http://www.libertarianrepublican.net/2012/11/the-end-of-liberty-in-america-only.html?spref=fb) is going to be making.

> [@Mr. Ruby Ridge](#):
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> Secondly, today starts a new course for my life. I’ve soured on electoral politics given what happened last night. I believe now the best course of action is outright revolt. What do I mean by that?
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> Well, to each his own. Some may choose to push secession in their state legislatures. Others may choose to leave the U.S. for good (Costa Rica, Switzerland, Italy, Argentina, Hong Kong, Israel). Still others may want to personally separate themselves from the United States here in North America while still living under communist rule’ the Glenn Beck, grab your guns, food storage, build bunkers, survivalist route. I heartily endorse all these efforts.
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> However, for me, I’m choosing another rather unique path; a personal boycott, if you will. Starting early this morning, I am going to un-friend every single individual on Facebook who voted for Obama, or I even suspect may have Democrat leanings. I will do the same in person. All family and friends, even close family and friends, who I know to be Democrats are hereby dead to me. I vow never to speak to them again for the rest of my life, or have any communications with them. They are in short, the enemies of liberty. They deserve nothing less than hatred and utter contempt.
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> I strongly urge all other libertarians to do the same. Are you married to someone who voted for Obama, have a girlfriend who voted ‘O’. Divorce them. Break up with them without haste. Vow not to attend family functions, Thanksgiving dinner or Christmas for example, if there will be any family members in attendance who are Democrats.
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> Do you work for someone who voted for Obama? Quit your job. Co-workers who voted for Obama. Simply don’t talk to them in the workplace, unless your boss instructs you too for work-related only purposes. Have clients who voted Democrat? Call them up this morning and tell them to take their business elsewhere.

ROFL. Seriously, read that link. Then read the comments. It’s a comedy goldmine.

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**Author:** ![silenus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/silenus/32/166_2.png) [@silenus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/silenus)\
**Post date:** [November 9, 2012, 7:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-john-galt-wannabes/640295/53 "2012-11-09T19:41:04Z")

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**DB** - That is just hysterical! I think Eric there is about to have himself a stroke.

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**Author:** ![Rollo\_Tomasi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/58956e/32.png) [@Rollo\_Tomasi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rollo_Tomasi)\
**Post date:** [November 9, 2012, 7:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-john-galt-wannabes/640295/54 "2012-11-09T19:54:26Z")

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> [@](#):
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> Starting early this morning, I am going to un-friend every single individual on Facebook who voted for Obama, or I even suspect may have Democrat leanings.

Oh no, not Facebook! Heaven help us all! Jackass.

You know what I don’t understand about the survivalist gold-hoarding habit? (I mean, other than everything.) Okay, so they think the United States is going to descend into some **Mad Max** -style apocalyptic wasteland, and they need to be able to survive. “Currency won’t be worth anything because there won’t be a United States!” Well, why is gold going to be worth anything? After their masturbatory fantasy about “America burning” comes true, who’s going to give a shit about gold anymore? If, say, someone has some apples, and you want to barter, why is anyone going to be interested in a gold brick? Sure, they’ll take a gallon of water or some blankets. But what good is gold if there’s no demand for it?

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**Author:** ![Ichbin\_Dubist](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/51bf81/32.png) [@Ichbin\_Dubist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ichbin_Dubist)\
**Post date:** [November 9, 2012, 8:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-john-galt-wannabes/640295/55 "2012-11-09T20:27:30Z")

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> [@Rollo\_Tomasi](#):
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> “Currency won’t be worth anything because there won’t be a United States!” Well, why is gold going to be worth anything? After their masturbatory fantasy about “America burning” comes true, who’s going to give a shit about gold anymore?

They will still need Princess Leia bikinis for the slave girls. Duh!

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**Author:** ![SteveG1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bb73d2/32.png) [@SteveG1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SteveG1)\
**Post date:** [November 9, 2012, 8:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-john-galt-wannabes/640295/56 "2012-11-09T20:31:32Z")

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It’s something alright, all these good white christian flag waving saber rattling shield bashing stay at home patriot phonies who spent the last how many years, calling US traitors, are now calling for open revolt?

Fuck them all. Let the revolution begin (it won’t because they’re all full of shit).

And I’m STILL waiting for “Uncle Ted” to off himself.

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**Author:** ![Jragon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/e19b73/32.png) [@Jragon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jragon)\
**Post date:** [November 9, 2012, 8:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-john-galt-wannabes/640295/57 "2012-11-09T20:35:06Z")

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> [@Ichbin\_Dubist](#):
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> They will still need Princess Leia bikinis for the slave girls. Duh!

No, I’m pretty sure they need them to make those gold-plated Monster™ Cables for their HD TV systems.

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**Author:** ![Chef\_Troy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/85f322/32.png) [@Chef\_Troy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chef_Troy)\
**Post date:** [November 9, 2012, 10:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-john-galt-wannabes/640295/58 "2012-11-09T22:31:42Z")

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> [@SteveG1](#):
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> …And I’m STILL waiting for “Uncle Ted” to off himself.

I always interpreted Nugent’s “dead or in jail” remarks to mean that he would have been shot or arrested by the Secret Service for trying to take Obama out.

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**Author:** ![SteveG1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bb73d2/32.png) [@SteveG1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SteveG1)\
**Post date:** [November 9, 2012, 10:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-john-galt-wannabes/640295/59 "2012-11-09T22:39:28Z")

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> [@Chef\_Troy](#):
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> I always interpreted Nugent’s “dead or in jail” remarks to mean that he would have been shot or arrested by the Secret Service for trying to take Obama out.

He didn’t have the balls to do it, surprise surprise he’s never had the balls to actually DO anything really, and he pussied out and told them it was just rhetoric when they questioned him. Fucking pussy.

Come on Ted! The world is waiting. Stop crying tears of blood over the sacrifice of soldiers who died fighting your wars while you shit your pants, so everone would vote your way. Eat a fucking shotgun already.

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**Author:** ![Der\_Trihs](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/der_trihs/32/233_2.png) [@Der\_Trihs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Der_Trihs)\
**Post date:** [November 9, 2012, 10:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-john-galt-wannabes/640295/60 "2012-11-09T22:41:28Z")

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> [@Rollo\_Tomasi](#):
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> You know what I don’t understand about the survivalist gold-hoarding habit? (I mean, other than everything.) Okay, so they think the United States is going to descend into some **Mad Max** -style apocalyptic wasteland, and they need to be able to survive. “Currency won’t be worth anything because there won’t be a United States!” Well, why is gold going to be worth anything? After their masturbatory fantasy about “America burning” comes true, who’s going to give a shit about gold anymore?

It’s part of the goldbug dogma that gold has “intrinsic value”, I think. They think gold will still have value after the collapse of civilization because it’s gold.

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