# I Pit John Galt Wannabes

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-john-galt-wannabes/640295>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [November 7, 2012, 11:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-john-galt-wannabes/640295 "2012-11-07T23:33:41Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 7\
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**Author:** ![Colibri](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/colibri/32/1841_2.png) [@Colibri](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Colibri)\
**Post date:** [November 9, 2012, 10:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-john-galt-wannabes/640295/61 "2012-11-09T22:54:59Z")

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> [@Misnomer](#):
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> Who needs a second language? Canada, England, Ireland, Scotland, New Zealand, Australia…plenty of countries have English (or a variation) as either their official language or their lingua franca.

Sure, but to anyone who thinks the US is socialist those countries would be outright Communist. Of course, they could try some English-speaking libertarian paradises like Nigeria or Guyana. (Oh, wait, Guyana’s ruling part is actually Marxist…)

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**Author:** ![gamerunknown](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/6bbea6/32.png) [@gamerunknown](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gamerunknown)\
**Post date:** [November 9, 2012, 10:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-john-galt-wannabes/640295/62 "2012-11-09T22:56:47Z")

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> [@elucidator](#):
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> Rugged individualism is crap. We are monkeys. Ten monkeys is a tribe, they cooperate and survive, even thrive. One monkey is a dead monkey.

The weirdest thing is that the division of labour into industrial production, one of the widest scale cooperative efforts of humanity, spawned the creed of untrammelled egotism (well, ok, William Godwin worked out that they were wholly incompatible, but if we ignore the actual doctrinaire individualist anarchists…).

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**Author:** ![Beastly\_Rotter](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/45deac/32.png) [@Beastly\_Rotter](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Beastly_Rotter)\
**Post date:** [November 10, 2012, 1:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-john-galt-wannabes/640295/63 "2012-11-10T01:22:24Z")

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> [@Misnomer](#):
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> Who needs a second language? Canada, England, Ireland, Scotland, New Zealand, Australia…plenty of countries have English (or a variation) as either their official language or their lingua franca.

New Zealand also has Maori as an official language.

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**Author:** ![Colibri](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/colibri/32/1841_2.png) [@Colibri](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Colibri)\
**Post date:** [November 10, 2012, 2:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-john-galt-wannabes/640295/64 "2012-11-10T02:31:16Z")

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> [@Beastly\_Rotter](#):
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> New Zealand also has Maori as an official language.

An added plus for our emigres! I’m sure the Maoris would be delighted with having more pakehas invading them.

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**Author:** ![Gorsnak](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gorsnak/32/7587_2.png) [@Gorsnak](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gorsnak)\
**Post date:** [November 10, 2012, 4:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-john-galt-wannabes/640295/65 "2012-11-10T04:06:58Z")

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> [@Der\_Trihs](#):
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> It’s part of the goldbug dogma that gold has “intrinsic value”, I think. They think gold will still have value after the collapse of civilization because it’s gold.

Well that’s just silly. Everyone knows that post-apocalyptic currency will be bottlecaps.

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**Author:** ![bahimes](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/e36b37/32.png) [@bahimes](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bahimes)\
**Post date:** [November 10, 2012, 6:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-john-galt-wannabes/640295/66 "2012-11-10T06:09:15Z")

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> [@Smapti](#):
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> Well, those countries are all socialist, right? So all you do is sneak in and apply for welfare, and then the government gives you a free phone and all the food stamps you want, and after you spend it all on Cadillacs and lobster, you just go right back and they give you some more.

I don’t know about the other countries of the Commonwealth, but it took me £500, a lot of paper and a few interviews to get my settlement visa for the UK. My wife is English and my visa specifically states i am not entitled to work or receive any benefits.

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**Author:** ![Darth\_Panda](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ee7513/32.png) [@Darth\_Panda](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Darth_Panda)\
**Post date:** [November 10, 2012, 10:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-john-galt-wannabes/640295/67 "2012-11-10T10:50:25Z")

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> [@Gorsnak](#):
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> Well that’s just silly. Everyone knows that post-apocalyptic currency will be bottlecaps.

As in deep fried jalapenos? Because those are awesome.

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