# I pit jtur88 **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [January 4, 2017, 2:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-jtur88/776309 "2017-01-04T14:39:27Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 12
**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\ **Post date:** [July 1, 2021, 11:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-jtur88/776309/222 "2021-07-01T23:21:27Z")
I’m reminded of an awful Piers Anthony book I read as a kid many years ago, _Race Against Time_. > **[RACE AGAINST TIME | Kirkus Reviews](https://www.kirkusreviews.com/book-reviews/piers-anthony/race-against-time/)** > > From an innocuous beginning — a boy and his dog walking through the fields — layer upon subtle layer is overlapped to develop a superior science fiction vision. The boy, John Smith, only extant caucasian male and raised in an enclave environmentally... A kid is raised in what is basically a human zoo, a “pure” white kid bred from preserved sperm/eggs and raised among people who were also disguised as being “pure” in race when they were actually of mixed race and were just in disguise. The rest of humanity is this blended single race. He is destined to procreate with a white girl, the only other “pure” caucasian human. There was also an African pair and a Chinese pair. Even back then it was difficult to read. It was incredibly stupid. ---
**Author:** ![TroutMan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/troutman/32/6721_2.png) [@TroutMan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TroutMan)\ **Post date:** [July 1, 2021, 11:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-jtur88/776309/223 "2021-07-01T23:29:33Z")
I feel dumber just from reading that synopsis. ---
**Author:** ![Miller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/miller/32/481_2.png) [@Miller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Miller)\ **Post date:** [July 1, 2021, 11:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-jtur88/776309/224 "2021-07-01T23:31:08Z")
> [@Atamasama](#): > > …an awful Piers Anthony book… Really, though, “awful” is already implied by “Piers Anthony.” ---
**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\ **Post date:** [July 1, 2021, 11:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-jtur88/776309/225 "2021-07-01T23:38:26Z")
You are not wrong Miller. There’s a reason that I haven’t read any of those books since I was a kid. I think I figured out in Junior High that they were just bad and I have avoided them since. I think I read so many because my dad was a fan. We had a ton of them in the garage. I have read dozens of them (the Xanth books, Incarnations of Immortality, the Tarot books, the Apprentice Adept, and so on). I feel ill thinking about them. ☹ ---
**Author:** ![Guest-starring\_Id](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guest-starring_id/32/21736_2.png) [@Guest-starring\_Id](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guest-starring_Id)\ **Post date:** [July 2, 2021, 12:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-jtur88/776309/226 "2021-07-02T00:32:30Z")
Nothing like a good, increasingly irrelevant Piers Anthony pile-on, I’ve always said, and would just like to add that it certainly speaks to the [gag] writer’s [gag] aspirations when he claims that one of his greatest pinnacles has been to publish a book beginning with every letter of the alphabet. That _determined_ style - it’s usually the best type of style, people have said. ---
**Author:** ![Tamerlane](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tamerlane/32/7602_2.png) [@Tamerlane](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tamerlane)\ **Post date:** [July 2, 2021, 1:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-jtur88/776309/227 "2021-07-02T01:21:00Z")
> [@Atamasama](#): > > There’s a reason that I haven’t read any of those books since I was a kid. I think I figured out in Junior High that they were just bad and I have avoided them since. I’ll admit I continued just into High School - last new books of his I bought I think were all published circa 1982-83 (I graduated in 1985). The exception was his annotated What of Earth which I thought might be an enlightening exploration of the editing process. Silly me - instead it was possibly the most painful narcissistic screed I’ve ever forced myself to wade through. I never even got into his most panned/grossest novels later in his career. Though I did read his contribution to Again, Dangerous Visions. Seriously ick. Piers Anthony has gotta be the crown king of popular-in-your-early-teens-abandoned-as-an-adult fantasy/sf authors. > [@Guest-starring\_Id](#): > > Nothing like a good, increasingly irrelevant Piers Anthony pile-on, It truly is a feel-good sorta pile-on for everyone to enjoy 😃. ---
**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\ **Post date:** [July 2, 2021, 1:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-jtur88/776309/228 "2021-07-02T13:19:59Z")
None of Anthony’s books are good, but a few of them are at least entertaining. Race Against Time was not one of those. It might not be the worst thing he ever wrote, but that’s just a testament to how bad some of his other books were. And yeah, I was sort of wondering if @jtur88 was secretly Piers Anthony, too. ---
**Author:** ![needscoffee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/needscoffee/32/1076_2.png) [@needscoffee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/needscoffee)\ **Post date:** [July 26, 2021, 6:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-jtur88/776309/229 "2021-07-26T06:00:49Z")
> [@What, if anything, turned you around on the fact that it's okay to be gay?](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-if-anything-turned-you-around-on-the-fact-that-its-okay-to-be-gay/947229/43): > > Most of the gays I have known had a streak of anger and bitterness about their own self-realization. I was glad I wasn’t one of them. I still am, although I don’t think I have met a gay in the past 20 yeas – maybe I did and didn’t notice it. ---
**Author:** ![RitterSport](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rittersport/32/6326_2.png) [@RitterSport](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RitterSport)\ **Post date:** [July 26, 2021, 12:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-jtur88/776309/230 "2021-07-26T12:17:24Z")
Nice job by the mod in that thread, calling out jtur88’s homophobia as homophobia. See the latest from @puzzlegal there. ---
**Author:** ![Kron](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kron/32/12444_2.png) [@Kron](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kron)\ **Post date:** [July 26, 2021, 12:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-jtur88/776309/231 "2021-07-26T12:37:30Z")
Absolutely; and the target of this pitting is one of the few posters that I feel bring absolutely no value to this board. Every post just stinks up the thread it’s in. ---
**Author:** ![MrDibble](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mrdibble/32/114_2.png) [@MrDibble](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MrDibble)\ **Post date:** [July 26, 2021, 1:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-jtur88/776309/232 "2021-07-26T13:52:35Z")
Did you see the _latest_ latest, where they’ve upgraded that to a deserved warning? ---
**Author:** ![RitterSport](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rittersport/32/6326_2.png) [@RitterSport](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RitterSport)\ **Post date:** [July 26, 2021, 1:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-jtur88/776309/233 "2021-07-26T13:57:59Z")
I didn’t! Nice. ---
**Author:** ![Kron](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kron/32/12444_2.png) [@Kron](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kron)\ **Post date:** [July 27, 2021, 1:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-jtur88/776309/234 "2021-07-27T01:21:54Z")
Wow, I’m gobsmacked. This one was a long time coming. > [@Jtur88 has been banned](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jtur88-has-been-banned/947377): > > jtur88 was suspended in February for a long pattern of jerkish behavior. After returning from the suspension, this behavior has continued. As a result, jtur88 has been banned. Link to most recent warning: [https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-if-anything-turned-you-around-on-the-fact-that-its-okay-to-be-gay/947229/43](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-if-anything-turned-you-around-on-the-fact-that-its-okay-to-be-gay/947229/43) Link to suspension: [https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jtur88-suspended-for-being-a-jerk/933632](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jtur88-suspended-for-being-a-jerk/933632) Link to warning prior to suspension: [https://boards.straightdope.com/t/password…](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/password-managers-do-you-use-one/933227/70) ---
**Author:** ![needscoffee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/needscoffee/32/1076_2.png) [@needscoffee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/needscoffee)\ **Post date:** [July 27, 2021, 1:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-jtur88/776309/235 "2021-07-27T01:25:28Z")
Couldn’t have happened to a nicer guy. ---
**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\ **Post date:** [July 27, 2021, 1:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-jtur88/776309/236 "2021-07-27T01:26:52Z")
I guess we can request this thread be closed now huh? ---
**Author:** ![kayaker](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kayaker/32/441_2.png) [@kayaker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kayaker)\ **Post date:** [July 27, 2021, 1:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-jtur88/776309/237 "2021-07-27T01:38:37Z")
Yay!! ---
**Author:** ![Chefguy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chefguy/32/138_2.png) [@Chefguy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chefguy)\ **Post date:** [July 27, 2021, 1:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-jtur88/776309/238 "2021-07-27T01:40:05Z")
Hey, I’m old(er) and cranky (at times); can I take his place? ---
**Author:** ![susan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/susan/32/17537_2.png) [@susan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/susan)\ **Post date:** [July 27, 2021, 1:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-jtur88/776309/239 "2021-07-27T01:52:35Z")
You don’t seem to meet the requirements. ---
**Author:** ![Velocity](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/velocity/32/18006_2.png) [@Velocity](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Velocity)\ **Post date:** [July 27, 2021, 2:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-jtur88/776309/240 "2021-07-27T02:50:01Z")
Since this is the Pit, I guess this is where I’d be allowed to say this: I always found some of **jtur88** ’s claims to be too far-fetched to be believed. The fact that he said he was in his 80s wasn’t all that tough to believe, but his being nearly blind _ **and** _ traveling all over the world (even during a pandemic) and all the life experiences he’d claimed he’d had was just a mite too much. (Assuming I haven’t misremembered) ---
**Author:** ![Enjoy\_Slurm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/enjoy_slurm/32/3937_2.png) [@Enjoy\_Slurm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Enjoy_Slurm)\ **Post date:** [July 27, 2021, 3:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-jtur88/776309/241 "2021-07-27T03:41:49Z")
> [@Velocity](#): > > Since this is the Pit, I guess this is where I’d be allowed to say this: I always found some of **jtur88** ’s claims to be too far-fetched to be believed. Jesus fucking God Almighty Mary fucking Josepgh Christ! Calm the fuck down. Have some fucking civility, please. For the children. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-jtur88/776309.md?page=11) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-jtur88/776309.md?page=13)