# I Pit Kanye West

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-kanye-west/772342>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [November 18, 2016, 5:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-kanye-west/772342 "2016-11-18T17:50:40Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Just\_Asking\_Questions](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ba9def/32.png) [@Just\_Asking\_Questions](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Just_Asking_Questions)\
**Post date:** [November 21, 2016, 3:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-kanye-west/772342/41 "2016-11-21T15:49:14Z")

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> [@swampspruce](#):
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> If we ignored Kanye long enough do you think he’d just go away?

It hasn’t worked so far.

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**Author:** ![Little\_Pig](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/c57346/32.png) [@Little\_Pig](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Pig)\
**Post date:** [November 21, 2016, 8:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-kanye-west/772342/42 "2016-11-21T20:20:10Z")

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Thank you for this thread! I can now, most unabashedly, call this turd, a complete JAG OFF, without repercussions, yes? (Did I use enough commas?)

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**Author:** ![outlierrn](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/outlierrn/32/3005_2.png) [@outlierrn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/outlierrn)\
**Post date:** [November 21, 2016, 9:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-kanye-west/772342/43 "2016-11-21T21:13:10Z")

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> [@Just\_Asking\_Questions](#):
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> It hasn’t worked so far.

Well, I’ve been doing my part.

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**Author:** ![Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/left_hand_of_dorkness/32/7156_2.png) [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Left_Hand_of_Dorkness)\
**Post date:** [November 21, 2016, 9:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-kanye-west/772342/44 "2016-11-21T21:18:00Z")

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> [@Little\_Pig](#):
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> Thank you for this thread! I can now, most unabashedly, call this turd, a complete JAG OFF, without repercussions, yes? (Did I use enough commas?)

Totally confused, which turd are you talking about, Kanye West, or Drunky Smurf, or both? In any case, yes.

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**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\
**Post date:** [November 21, 2016, 9:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-kanye-west/772342/45 "2016-11-21T21:55:25Z")

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Kanye West has annoyed me somewhat less, due to my indifference.

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**Author:** ![SteveG1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bb73d2/32.png) [@SteveG1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SteveG1)\
**Post date:** [November 21, 2016, 9:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-kanye-west/772342/46 "2016-11-21T21:59:39Z")

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> [@elucidator](#):
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> _Mallard Fillmore_ already has writers. They are not hiring.

Mallard Fillmore also sucks eggs.

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**Author:** ![Nema98](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/d2c977/32.png) [@Nema98](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Nema98)\
**Post date:** [November 22, 2016, 12:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-kanye-west/772342/47 "2016-11-22T00:57:19Z")

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I think he just says that to court controversy, I doubt he is a Donald Trump supporter at all.

Again he ranted about Beyonce and Jay-Z, THAT IS the real story here. My hunch is he secretly wishes Beyonce were his wife. GASP!!

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**Author:** ![Lobot](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/ce7236/32.png) [@Lobot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lobot)\
**Post date:** [November 22, 2016, 3:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-kanye-west/772342/48 "2016-11-22T03:10:55Z")

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Well, apparently he’s now being held for psychiatric evaluation.

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**Author:** ![Lemur866](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lemur866/32/434_2.png) [@Lemur866](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lemur866)\
**Post date:** [November 22, 2016, 3:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-kanye-west/772342/49 "2016-11-22T03:33:16Z")

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Yep.

> **[Kanye West Hospitalized After Canceling Tour Dates](https://www.usmagazine.com/celebrity-news/news/kanye-west-hospitalized-after-canceling-tour-dates-report-w451899/)**
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> Kanye West was hospitalized after canceling the remainder of his Saint Pablo tour dates on Monday, November 21 — details

Looks like he picked a bad week to go off his meds.

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**Author:** ![Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/left_hand_of_dorkness/32/7156_2.png) [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Left_Hand_of_Dorkness)\
**Post date:** [November 22, 2016, 4:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-kanye-west/772342/50 "2016-11-22T04:02:27Z")

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> [@Lobot](#):
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> Well, apparently he’s now being held for psychiatric evaluation.

Glad he might get the help he needs. Now if only the OP can as well!

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**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\
**Post date:** [November 22, 2016, 4:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-kanye-west/772342/51 "2016-11-22T04:08:31Z")

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Kanye West is an investment. The OP is an infestation.

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**Author:** ![Lobot](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/ce7236/32.png) [@Lobot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lobot)\
**Post date:** [November 22, 2016, 4:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-kanye-west/772342/52 "2016-11-22T04:12:08Z")

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> [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](#):
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> Glad he might get the help he needs.

I’m actually kind of surprised that it’s being looked at. I assumed that, by surrounding himself with talentless narcissists, he would have insulated himself from any kind of clear-headed assessment. Cf. Elvis Presley and Michael Jackson.

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**Author:** ![Novelty\_Bobble](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/a3d4f5/32.png) [@Novelty\_Bobble](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Novelty_Bobble)\
**Post date:** [November 22, 2016, 10:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-kanye-west/772342/53 "2016-11-22T10:32:45Z")

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If anyone wants a laugh at how out of touch I am, I thought that Kanye West and Jay Z _were_ the same person, just that he changed his name. My wife gently pointed out that I probably meant Puff Daddy and P-Diddy. At which point I realised that I thought that was two entirely different people. I rescued my street cred by knowing that Snoop Dog changed his named and added a “lion” in there somewhere but at least he had the decency to keep the same christian name. Plus I admit I was going to say that I know Ice-cube and Ice-T are different people even thought they do share a christian name…but I’ve spolied it rather by having to google it just to be sure.

I am not an expert on rap musicians.

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**Author:** ![Alessan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alessan/32/465_2.png) [@Alessan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Alessan)\
**Post date:** [November 22, 2016, 11:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-kanye-west/772342/54 "2016-11-22T11:03:54Z")

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That’s nothing. I used to think that Kanye West and renowned academic _Cornel_ West were the same person.

To be fair, that would have been cool, wouldn’t it?

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**Author:** ![crowmanyclouds](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/crowmanyclouds/32/19884_2.png) [@crowmanyclouds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/crowmanyclouds)\
**Post date:** [November 22, 2016, 11:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-kanye-west/772342/55 "2016-11-22T11:17:25Z")

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> [@Alessan](#):
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> That’s nothing. I used to think that Kanye West and renowned academic _Cornel_ West were the same person.
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> To be fair, that would have been cool, wouldn’t it?

It would explain Cornel’s ubiquitous neck scarf . . . to disguise the Kanye head?

CMC fnord!

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**Author:** ![SteveG1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bb73d2/32.png) [@SteveG1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SteveG1)\
**Post date:** [November 23, 2016, 8:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-kanye-west/772342/56 "2016-11-23T20:54:11Z")

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> [@Lobot](#):
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> Well, apparently he’s now being held for psychiatric evaluation.

Too little, too late?

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**Author:** ![Darren\_Garrison](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/darren_garrison/32/92_2.png) [@Darren\_Garrison](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Darren_Garrison)\
**Post date:** [November 23, 2016, 9:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-kanye-west/772342/57 "2016-11-23T21:11:19Z")

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> [@Novelty\_Bobble](#):
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> If anyone wants a laugh at how out of touch I am, I thought that Kanye West and Jay Z _were_ the same person, just that he changed his name.
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> …
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> I am not an expert on rap musicians.

I have to admit I’m not officially an Old Guy who knows almost nothing at all about modern music of any genre. Mostly what I know about Kanye West is that he thinks Beyonce should have gotten an award instead of Taylor Swift, he thinks George W. Bush doesn’t like black people, and he likes putting fish sticks in his mouth. The only song that I’ve heard that I know is his has made it impossible for me to ever hear the phrase “gold digger” again without mentally rhyming it with a racial slur (so thanks for that?)

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**Author:** ![Novelty\_Bobble](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/a3d4f5/32.png) [@Novelty\_Bobble](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Novelty_Bobble)\
**Post date:** [November 23, 2016, 9:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-kanye-west/772342/58 "2016-11-23T21:56:49Z")

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> [@Darren\_Garrison](#):
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> I have to admit I’m not officially an Old Guy who knows almost nothing at all about modern music of any genre. Mostly what I know about Kanye West is that he thinks Beyonce should have gotten an award instead of Taylor Swift, he thinks George W. Bush doesn’t like black people, and he likes putting fish sticks in his mouth. The only song that I’ve heard that I know is his has made it impossible for me to ever hear the phrase “gold digger” again without mentally rhyming it with a racial slur (so thanks for that?)

Thing is, I’m not sure where I’d ever come into contact with his face or his music.  
The news sites I visit don’t plug him, I mostly listen to BBC radio 4 or 5, perhaps BBC6 or Classic FM. I PVR my TV and don’t really read newspapers or magazines. It isn’t surprising I don’t know him and his ilk. (and seeing as you mention her, I do know the name Taylor Swift and know she’s an american singer but don’t really know what genre or what she looks like or what the name of any of her songs are…I guess I really am an Old Fart now)

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**Author:** ![Darren\_Garrison](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/darren_garrison/32/92_2.png) [@Darren\_Garrison](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Darren_Garrison)\
**Post date:** [November 23, 2016, 10:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-kanye-west/772342/59 "2016-11-23T22:02:41Z")

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(Uh, when I wrote “not officially an Old Guy”, I meant “_now_ officialy” yadda yadda.)

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**Author:** ![D\_Odds](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/d_odds/32/2882_2.png) [@D\_Odds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/D_Odds)\
**Post date:** [November 23, 2016, 10:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-kanye-west/772342/60 "2016-11-23T22:04:17Z")

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> [@Darren\_Garrison](#):
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> I have to admit I’m not officially an Old Guy who knows almost nothing at all about modern music of any genre. Mostly what I know about Kanye West is that he thinks Beyonce should have gotten an award instead of Taylor Swift, he thinks George W. Bush doesn’t like black people, and he likes putting fish sticks in his mouth. The only song that I’ve heard that I know is his has made it impossible for me to ever hear the phrase “gold digger” again without mentally rhyming it with a racial slur (so thanks for that?)

You actually know more about Mr. West than I do. I try to avoid celebrity news in general, and anything dealing with his wife’s clan specifically. That said, one of his songs sampled King Crimson’s _21st Century Schizoid Man_, and that is the only reason I know a KW song, though even now the name of the song escapes me.

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