# I Pit Kenny Glenn And All Animal Abusers. **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [February 16, 2009, 5:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-kenny-glenn-and-all-animal-abusers/486119 "2009-02-16T17:33:58Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![ivan\_astikov](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/58f4c7/32.png) [@ivan\_astikov](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ivan_astikov)\ **Post date:** [February 20, 2009, 2:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-kenny-glenn-and-all-animal-abusers/486119/41 "2009-02-20T14:51:51Z")
> [@Cluricaun](#): > > As a matter of fact yes, yes it would. I’m not sticking up for these kids in any way, but to follow your logic we now equate the life of a cat with the life of a human in terms of value. Sorry, but any person, even those as damaged as these kids are, has a life more valuable than that of an animal. This thread is veering towards PETA territory. I agree, but it’s hard to be reasonable in circumstances like this. I know it is wrong, but I do put different values on human life, and anyone who commits acts of violence on the elderly, children, the disabled or animals, is right at the bottom of my list for sympathy or empathy. . ---
**Author:** ![atomicbadgerrace](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/8e7dd6/32.png) [@atomicbadgerrace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/atomicbadgerrace)\ **Post date:** [February 20, 2009, 3:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-kenny-glenn-and-all-animal-abusers/486119/42 "2009-02-20T15:15:50Z")
> [@ivan\_astikov](#): > > I agree, but it’s hard to be reasonable in circumstances like this. Hard, but not impossible. Thank goodness we have a justice system designed to relieve us commonfolk from resorting to mob rule. > [@](#): > > I know it is wrong, but I do put different values on human life, and anyone who commits acts of violence on the elderly, children, the disabled or animals, is right at the bottom of my list for sympathy or empathy. . You really must take into account the fact that this kid is **14**. No, that doesn’t give him a free pass at all. But when you factor in his home life, parents and upbringing, plus any preexisting psychiatric conditions he may (or may not) have… The cat was mistreated and an unfortunate victim, there’s no doubt about that. But to suggest that he should be subject to the whims of the internet revenge squad, or have any kind of torturous punishment inflicted before an examination of the background, motivation, or facts is just absolutely :rolleyes:. On the contrary, this kid has a lot of empathy coming from me. He’s clearly a fucked up individual who needs all the help he can get, not anonymous death threats from the far reaches of the internet. ---
**Author:** ![Hal\_Briston](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/a9a28c/32.png) [@Hal\_Briston](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hal_Briston)\ **Post date:** [February 20, 2009, 3:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-kenny-glenn-and-all-animal-abusers/486119/43 "2009-02-20T15:51:30Z")
Ok, I’ve watched the videos and fully agree – this is one seriously fucked up kid that society would be well-served never to see again. That said, everyone realizes he’s not actually hitting the cat, right? It’s unquestionable that he’s abusing Dusty, but those manic “punches” are full-out pro-wrestling style…he’s pulling back on every shot. Yes, he’s slamming the cat against the wall, he’s spraying I-don’t-know-what in his eyes, he is without question torturing the cat – he’s just not _really_ punching him. I don’t want it to seem like I’m defending this walking turd – we had a cat who were horribly abused by previous owners, and it took _years_ to get him to display some semblance of trust in people again. The camera was just making the abuse look worse than it was (for which I’m very thankful). ---
**Author:** ![Terraplane](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/74df32/32.png) [@Terraplane](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Terraplane)\ **Post date:** [February 20, 2009, 4:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-kenny-glenn-and-all-animal-abusers/486119/44 "2009-02-20T16:47:44Z")
While a part of me wouldn’t mind seeing this jerk get a taste of his own medicine, I know that really wouldn’t help matters much and isn’t a healthy way of dealing with something like this. I do hope that he is punished as severely as the law allows, and I hope he gets a really good counselor that manages to get through to him and teach him a little bit of empathy, if that’s even possible. Until then I don’t think he belongs in society. A racist that gets his kicks from torturing things isn’t the best person to have running around freely. He’s probably going to be ostracized in school for this, too. Good luck getting a date when you’re the weird cat torturing guy. He’ll have certainly earned his position as a social outcast but I hope it doesn’t just make him worse. ---
**Author:** ![Jettboy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/85e7bf/32.png) [@Jettboy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jettboy)\ **Post date:** [February 20, 2009, 6:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-kenny-glenn-and-all-animal-abusers/486119/45 "2009-02-20T18:23:19Z")
I can’t believe some of the bullshit I’m reading in this thread. \*"…I’m opposed to the death penalty . . . I’m almost willing to make an exception in cases like this" “If they got a bit carried away and killed one of them, it’d be no big loss, would it?” “I just want to say that I, seriously, support the death penalty for anyone who deliberately mistreats or abuses an animal.” “…I wouldn’t shed a tear or feel any displeasure if one of those wackos on 4chan did manage to get a good shot at either boy”\* This is a **14-year-old child** here, folks. You think this obviously psychologically damaged boy’s life is worth _less_ than that of a _cat_?! Really?! Do you just not have any realistic sense of values at all? I love the felines as much as the next guy (one is sitting on my lap as I write this), but c’mon…you fuckers are advocating killing a human being, a sick and terribly mentally ill _child_, because he’s cruel to a housepet? ---
**Author:** ![ivan\_astikov](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/58f4c7/32.png) [@ivan\_astikov](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ivan_astikov)\ **Post date:** [February 20, 2009, 6:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-kenny-glenn-and-all-animal-abusers/486119/46 "2009-02-20T18:49:06Z")
So, come on then, Dopers. Let’s hear some suggestions as to how we go about correcting behaviour like this, or maybe a hint or two as to what creates a mentality like the one these boys present, in the first place? Do we have any child psychologists on board? ---
**Author:** ![Cuckoorex](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/ad7895/32.png) [@Cuckoorex](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cuckoorex)\ **Post date:** [February 20, 2009, 6:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-kenny-glenn-and-all-animal-abusers/486119/47 "2009-02-20T18:58:00Z")
> [@ivan\_astikov](#): > > I’ve heard the “violence only begets violence” arguments plenty of times, but does anyone else agree that some people only understand the language of the fist, boot and bullet? So can we agree that if someone broke into your house and kicked your cat instead of stealing your TiVo, you’d feel OK with using violence against them? ---
**Author:** ![Yorikke](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/yorikke/32/4335_2.png) [@Yorikke](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Yorikke)\ **Post date:** [February 20, 2009, 6:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-kenny-glenn-and-all-animal-abusers/486119/48 "2009-02-20T18:58:39Z")
> [@Jettboy](#): > > This is a **14-year-old child** here, folks. You think this obviously psychologically damaged boy’s life is worth _less_ than that of a _cat_?! Really?! Do you just not have any realistic sense of values at all? > > I love the felines as much as the next guy (one is sitting on my lap as I write this), but c’mon…you fuckers are advocating killing a human being, a sick and terribly mentally ill _child_, because he’s cruel to a housepet? Yes. We need to thin out the herd. What better way to start than with a future serial killer? i don’t care that he’s probably mentally ill. I don’t care that he’s 14. It’s not just him, and it’s not just the fact that he hurt his pet. There are a LOT of people this world could do without. Just because they’re _human beings_ doesn’t mean that their life is worth half a shit. Joe ---
**Author:** ![ivan\_astikov](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/58f4c7/32.png) [@ivan\_astikov](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ivan_astikov)\ **Post date:** [February 20, 2009, 7:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-kenny-glenn-and-all-animal-abusers/486119/49 "2009-02-20T19:11:56Z")
> [@Cuckoorex](#): > > So can we agree that if someone broke into your house and kicked your cat instead of stealing your TiVo, you’d feel OK with using violence against them? Yes. Attack my adopted ‘family’ and you attack me. I am then entitled to do all in my ability to stop you. Even **say** you are going to attack my pet, or look as if you are going to, and I will put you down if I can. Not even a ‘sentimental’ object is worth risking your life for though. ---
**Author:** ![Cuckoorex](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/ad7895/32.png) [@Cuckoorex](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cuckoorex)\ **Post date:** [February 20, 2009, 7:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-kenny-glenn-and-all-animal-abusers/486119/50 "2009-02-20T19:29:52Z")
> [@ivan\_astikov](#): > > Yes. Attack my adopted ‘family’ and you attack me. I am then entitled to do all in my ability to stop you. Even **say** you are going to attack my pet, or look as if you are going to, and I will put you down if I can. > > Not even a ‘sentimental’ object is worth risking your life for though. I might let my fish take a bullet for me, though. Just sayin’. ---
**Author:** ![ivan\_astikov](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/58f4c7/32.png) [@ivan\_astikov](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ivan_astikov)\ **Post date:** [February 20, 2009, 7:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-kenny-glenn-and-all-animal-abusers/486119/51 "2009-02-20T19:42:15Z")
> [@Cuckoorex](#): > > I might let my fish take a bullet for me, though. Just sayin’. You can’t bond with a fish unless it has batter on it and a sprinkling of salt and vinegar! 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Jettboy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/85e7bf/32.png) [@Jettboy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jettboy)\ **Post date:** [February 20, 2009, 8:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-kenny-glenn-and-all-animal-abusers/486119/52 "2009-02-20T20:56:17Z")
> [@wheresgeorge04](#): > > Yes. We need to thin out the herd. What better way to start than with a future serial killer? i don’t care that he’s probably mentally ill. I don’t care that he’s 14. > > It’s not just him, and it’s not just the fact that he hurt his pet. There are a LOT of people this world could do without. Just because they’re _human beings_ doesn’t mean that their life is worth half a shit. Maybe you feel that way because you’re a fucking idiot. ---
**Author:** ![Jettboy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/85e7bf/32.png) [@Jettboy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jettboy)\ **Post date:** [February 20, 2009, 9:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-kenny-glenn-and-all-animal-abusers/486119/53 "2009-02-20T21:00:37Z")
> [@ivan\_astikov](#): > > Yes. Attack my adopted ‘family’ and you attack me. I am then entitled to do all in my ability to stop you. Even **say** you are going to attack my pet, or look as if you are going to, and I will put you down if I can. Your “adopted family”? Have you always been sociologically retarded, or is this a new thing? Animals _aren’t_ people, dumbass. Your “adopted family”?! Christ, you really are a fucking imbecile. ---
**Author:** ![ivan\_astikov](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/58f4c7/32.png) [@ivan\_astikov](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ivan_astikov)\ **Post date:** [February 20, 2009, 9:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-kenny-glenn-and-all-animal-abusers/486119/54 "2009-02-20T21:07:12Z")
> [@Jettboy](#): > > Your “adopted family”? Have you always been sociologically retarded, or is this a new thing? Animals _aren’t_ people, dumbass. > > Your “adopted family”?! Christ, you really are a fucking imbecile. Just bought your first thesaurus, have you? Hey, you’ll have loads of fun with that once you get the hang of it. ---
**Author:** ![Guinastasia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guinastasia/32/5751_2.png) [@Guinastasia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guinastasia)\ **Post date:** [February 20, 2009, 9:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-kenny-glenn-and-all-animal-abusers/486119/55 "2009-02-20T21:20:25Z")
> [@Jettboy](#): > > I can’t believe some of the bullshit I’m reading in this thread. > > \*“…I’m opposed to the death penalty . . . I’m almost willing to make an exception in cases like this” > > “If they got a bit carried away and killed one of them, it’d be no big loss, would it?” > > “I just want to say that I, seriously, support the death penalty for anyone who deliberately mistreats or abuses an animal.” > > “…I wouldn’t shed a tear or feel any displeasure if one of those wackos on 4chan did manage to get a good shot at either boy”\* > > This is a **14-year-old child** here, folks. You think this obviously psychologically damaged boy’s life is worth _less_ than that of a _cat_?! Really?! Do you just not have any realistic sense of values at all? > > I love the felines as much as the next guy (one is sitting on my lap as I write this), but c’mon…you fuckers are advocating killing a human being, a sick and terribly mentally ill _child_, because he’s cruel to a housepet? You’re a fucking moron. If you want to coddle the next Ted Bundy, be my guest. Just because he’s FOURTEEN, doesn’t mean he gets a pass. He’s also a sociopath in the making, from what it looks like. Put him in some serious psychotherapy, and under some major evaluation, because this kid is showing some signs of “Seriously Fucked Up”. ---
**Author:** ![Pedro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/919ad9/32.png) [@Pedro](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Pedro)\ **Post date:** [February 20, 2009, 9:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-kenny-glenn-and-all-animal-abusers/486119/56 "2009-02-20T21:42:09Z")
Kudos to the internet community for catching these two early on, before they graduate to murdering people. Now these cowards just need a solid beating, to see how amusing torture is when you’re the one on the laboratory bench. Instead, they’re probably being told they are precious snowflakes. ---
**Author:** ![Yorikke](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/yorikke/32/4335_2.png) [@Yorikke](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Yorikke)\ **Post date:** [February 20, 2009, 9:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-kenny-glenn-and-all-animal-abusers/486119/57 "2009-02-20T21:46:00Z")
> [@Jettboy](#): > > Maybe you feel that way because you’re a fucking idiot. I’ve been called worse, by better people than “jettboy” Joe ---
**Author:** ![Cuckoorex](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/ad7895/32.png) [@Cuckoorex](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cuckoorex)\ **Post date:** [February 20, 2009, 9:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-kenny-glenn-and-all-animal-abusers/486119/58 "2009-02-20T21:50:07Z")
> [@wheresgeorge04](#): > > I’ve been called worse, by better people than “jettboy” > > Joe Is that supposed to be a _good_ thing? Better people than Jettboy have called you worse? Seriously? Is that supposed to be a comeback? If Jesus called you a shitlicking cunt, would that be the nth degree, or would you hold out for being called something worse by a better person? ---
**Author:** ![Enola\_Gay](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/3ab097/32.png) [@Enola\_Gay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Enola_Gay)\ **Post date:** [February 20, 2009, 10:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-kenny-glenn-and-all-animal-abusers/486119/59 "2009-02-20T22:02:04Z")
> [@Guinastasia](#): > > You’re a fucking moron. If you want to coddle the next Ted Bundy, be my guest. Just because he’s FOURTEEN, doesn’t mean he gets a pass. He’s also a sociopath in the making, from what it looks like. > > Put him in some serious psychotherapy, and under some major evaluation, because this kid is showing some signs of “Seriously Fucked Up”. The thing imo that makes this case SO bizarre is that not only did they torture the family pets (there were tapes of 2 different cats being tortured and charges have been filed for each) but these two budding serial killers are BROTHERS. One fucked up kid can always be explained as a fluke or a bad seed…but two brothers in one family who torture the family pet and call black people niggers: Major red flag. I think CPS needs to do a major investigation into this household. The boys use the n-word SO freely and openly (they called Obama “our nigger president” and “the coon in the white house” on their myspace and facebook pages…before they were hacked). WTF kind of family is this?? Also in the video of the black and white cat being tortured (where they are not wearing the ski masks) you see in the background a bed that is covered with guns and rebel flags displayed on the walls. BTW, the substance they were spraying in the cats’ eyes was Window Cleaner. ---
**Author:** ![ivan\_astikov](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/58f4c7/32.png) [@ivan\_astikov](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ivan_astikov)\ **Post date:** [February 20, 2009, 10:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-kenny-glenn-and-all-animal-abusers/486119/60 "2009-02-20T22:09:06Z")
We can only wish very hard that they all came as dumb as these junior sociopaths, then we could lock them away safely, before they caused serious harm to something more than a pet. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-kenny-glenn-and-all-animal-abusers/486119.md?page=2) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-kenny-glenn-and-all-animal-abusers/486119.md?page=4)