# I pit King of the Hill. **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [February 23, 2004, 12:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-king-of-the-hill/230579 "2004-02-23T00:34:47Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![prisoner6655321](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/5f8ce5/32.png) [@prisoner6655321](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/prisoner6655321)\ **Post date:** [February 23, 2004, 2:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-king-of-the-hill/230579/41 "2004-02-23T02:55:11Z")
> [@gobear](#): > > Dude, if you believe animated comedy shows to be accurate representations of societal attitudes, you’ve got much bigger problems to worry about. You all are assuming that the masses are as intelligent as the average doper. Wrong assumption. Man you guys suck at arguing. Stick to the topic. What matters isn’t what **I** think, but what the masses think. ---
**Author:** ![London\_Calling](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/49beb7/32.png) [@London\_Calling](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/London_Calling)\ **Post date:** [February 23, 2004, 2:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-king-of-the-hill/230579/42 "2004-02-23T02:56:20Z")
> [@prisoner6655321](#): > > Hey! I’m pissed off because of how the show affects people that have the same wrong opinions of hippies, not me. This show reinforces the stereotype that **London\_Calling** displayed. The fact is the exact opposite. Stop it, you’re killing me 😃 ---
**Author:** ![VarlosZ](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/d78d45/32.png) [@VarlosZ](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/VarlosZ)\ **Post date:** [February 23, 2004, 3:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-king-of-the-hill/230579/43 "2004-02-23T03:00:53Z")
> [@](#): > > Man you guys suck at arguing. Stick to the topic. What matters isn’t what I think, but what the masses think. Ok, I guess I’m done trying to be polite. The OP’s a fucking moron; end of story. ---
**Author:** ![Myrr21](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e495f1/32.png) [@Myrr21](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Myrr21)\ **Post date:** [February 23, 2004, 3:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-king-of-the-hill/230579/44 "2004-02-23T03:02:32Z")
> [@prisoner6655321](#): > > What matters isn’t what **I** think, but what the masses think. Well, as a card carrying member of the masses, I can assure you we all think you’re an idiot. ---
**Author:** ![Grrr](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/grrr/32/146_2.png) [@Grrr](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Grrr)\ **Post date:** [February 23, 2004, 3:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-king-of-the-hill/230579/45 "2004-02-23T03:06:46Z")
> [@prisoner6655321](#): > > During the period that I went to the gathering, I lived in the area of Texas that Arlen is supposed to be They had a gathering in **Garland Tx.?** Having lived in Garland myself I definately see where KoTH gets their stero types. Funny ass show even if it is at my own exspence. [shrugs shoulders] ---
**Author:** ![d\_redguy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/5fc32e/32.png) [@d\_redguy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/d_redguy)\ **Post date:** [February 23, 2004, 3:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-king-of-the-hill/230579/46 "2004-02-23T03:10:21Z")
> [@prisoner6655321](#): > > Man you guys suck at arguing. Do not! …oh, wait, thats just contradiction. I suppose I will go next door for “getting-hit-on-the-head” lessons. waaaaaAAAAAHHHHH! Oh, and since a hijack seems to be in order, Peggy Hill makes me want to bash my face into the television. But I see the humor. What really pisses me off about KotH is how Dale represents conspiracy theorists. I don’t wear a red baseball cap, and I am not as bald as Dale. Imagine how the masses must think of us, the conspiracy theorists. How can we stop it? :wally ---
**Author:** ![prisoner6655321](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/5f8ce5/32.png) [@prisoner6655321](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/prisoner6655321)\ **Post date:** [February 23, 2004, 3:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-king-of-the-hill/230579/47 "2004-02-23T03:10:26Z")
Aw, I’m fed up with this argument. You guys have done a great job of convincing me that you are none other than the most shamefully contemptuous, egotistical, and closed-minded group of pompous jackasses I’ve had the displeasure of conversing with. Peace. 😃 ---
**Author:** ![Ilsa\_Lund](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/a6a055/32.png) [@Ilsa\_Lund](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ilsa_Lund)\ **Post date:** [February 23, 2004, 3:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-king-of-the-hill/230579/48 "2004-02-23T03:16:26Z")
> [@prisoner6655321](#): > > Aw, I’m fed up with this argument. You guys have done a great job of convincing me that you are none other than the most shamefully contemptuous, egotistical, and closed-minded group of pompous jackasses I’ve had the displeasure of conversing with. > > Peace. 😃 That’s just like… your opinion, man. ---
**Author:** ![Avalonian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ee7513/32.png) [@Avalonian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Avalonian)\ **Post date:** [February 23, 2004, 3:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-king-of-the-hill/230579/49 "2004-02-23T03:19:45Z")
> [@prisoner6655321](#): > > You all are assuming that the masses are as intelligent as the average doper. Wrong assumption. > Man you guys suck at arguing. Stick to the topic. What matters isn’t what **I** think, but what the masses think. So what are you, the ordained arbiter of all the “the masses” think? And, really, just who are these “masses” you speak of? Can you define that demographic a little for us? Probably not, since we “suck at arguing” so bad, man. :rolleyes: Look, dude, it’s been pointed out to you _several_ times, and you still haven’t responded to it. I’ll put it here, nice and big, in simple words, so you can see and understand: **King of the Hill is SATIRE!! It’s FUNNY! It’s all meant as a JOKE!! I assure you, IT IS NOT MEANT SERIOUSLY!** Did you see the episode where Hank and Peggy go to a nudist colony, and Hank starts selling propane accessories to people? FUNNY! The one where Hank got to shake G.W. Bush’s hand, and he questioned his political stance simply because the handshake was “limp”? FUNNY! The one where Hank gets into the local Asian-only Golf club as the “token white”? FUNNY! None of this is meant as a “serious representation” of nudist camps, Asian-Americans, Bush’s handshake, or anything else. It’s all satire, pretty even-handed, and usually damn clever to boot. The “hippie” episode no more or less so than the others. I am sorry to tell you, dear **prisoner6655321** , that you have been massively **WHOOOSHED** by the clever writers of _King of the Hill_. You didn’t get the joke. Get the fuck over it. Move on. Go kick a cat or something. - Avalonian, off to disentangle his back-length hair and perhaps light some incense - ---
**Author:** ![hajario](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hajario/32/171_2.png) [@hajario](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/hajario)\ **Post date:** [February 23, 2004, 3:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-king-of-the-hill/230579/50 "2004-02-23T03:21:44Z")
I don’t know whether to laugh or cry. I take that back…I’m laughing my ass off. I used to be a hippie, kid. Yup, long curly hair down to my ass, big old earring (I am a guy), smoked copious amounts of pot and attended close to 100 Dead shows. Had I seen the episode, I would have laughed my ass off. Had the me of 15 years ago been transported forward in time to see that, I would have laughed my ass off. Nowadays I’m a short haired corporate fuck. I haven’t smoked dope since I can’t remember when. The reason that I didn’t watch KotH tonight is because my wife made me watch the finale of Sex and the City with her. Go ahead and mock me, I won’t mind. Even on my wildest acid trip back in the day, I knew the difference between real life and a fucking cartoon. Haj ---
**Author:** ![Avalonian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ee7513/32.png) [@Avalonian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Avalonian)\ **Post date:** [February 23, 2004, 3:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-king-of-the-hill/230579/51 "2004-02-23T03:22:37Z")
> [@prisoner6655321](#): > > Aw, I’m fed up with this argument. You guys have done a great job of convincing me that you are none other than the most shamefully contemptuous, egotistical, and closed-minded group of pompous jackasses I’ve had the displeasure of conversing with. > > Peace. 😃 Aw, sure… take your parting shot while I’m composing a reply. Jagoff. Oh, but… Peace. :rolleyes: ---
**Author:** ![hajario](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hajario/32/171_2.png) [@hajario](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/hajario)\ **Post date:** [February 23, 2004, 3:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-king-of-the-hill/230579/52 "2004-02-23T03:26:07Z")
I don’t know whether to laugh or cry. I take that back…I’m laughing my ass off. I used to be a hippie, kid. Yup, long curly hair down to my ass, big old earring (I am a guy), smoked copious amounts of pot and attended close to 100 Dead shows. Had I seen the episode, I would have laughed my ass off. Had the me of 15 years ago been transported forward in time to see that, I would have laughed my ass off. Nowadays I’m a short haired corporate fuck. I haven’t smoked dope since I can’t remember when. The reason that I didn’t watch KotH tonight is because my wife made me watch the finale of Sex and the City with her. Go ahead and mock me, I won’t mind. Even on my wildest acid trip back in the day, I knew the difference between real life and a fucking cartoon. Haj ---
**Author:** ![Jenaroph](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/e8c25b/32.png) [@Jenaroph](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jenaroph)\ **Post date:** [February 23, 2004, 3:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-king-of-the-hill/230579/53 "2004-02-23T03:27:10Z")
…bwuh? So, ah, which is it? Is this a joke thread and we’ve all been whooshed by the OP, or is the OP a humorless jello-brain who’s been whooshed by KoTH? ---
**Author:** ![gobear](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/8dc957/32.png) [@gobear](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gobear)\ **Post date:** [February 23, 2004, 3:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-king-of-the-hill/230579/54 "2004-02-23T03:29:24Z")
> [@](#): > > Man you guys suck at arguing. Stick to the topic. What matters isn’t what I think, but what the masses think. The masses? WTF? Folks who think of everyone else as their intellectual inferiors tend to have grossly inflated opinions of their intelligence. In any event, the average American is not so stupid as to take **King of the Hill** as their barometer of opinion because they know it’s comedy. In any event, me little droogie, despite your appropriation of Alex DeLarge’s prison ID, your posts reflect much more the attitudes of F. Alexander and his Party comrades (I have to quote from the DVD since I don’t have a copy of the novel handy): > [@](#): > > The common people will let it go, oh yes. They’ll sell liberty for a quieter life. > That is why they must be led, driven, pushed. The irony in that bit of dialogue is that the supposed enemies of totalitarianism who wish to use Alex to defeat the fascist government are willing to employ the exact same tactics as their foes. And that is where we come to you. Your desire to save “the masses” from themselves (and I’d like to see where these masses exist outside Party propaganda) is no different from fundies who wish to censor books that contradict their crackpot views. Your wish to guide the views of those you consider inferior to yourself is the seed of tyranny. ---
**Author:** ![hajario](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hajario/32/171_2.png) [@hajario](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/hajario)\ **Post date:** [February 23, 2004, 3:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-king-of-the-hill/230579/55 "2004-02-23T03:29:24Z")
Woah, flashback dude. 😃 Haj ---
**Author:** ![t-keela](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/a3d4f5/32.png) [@t-keela](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/t-keela)\ **Post date:** [February 23, 2004, 3:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-king-of-the-hill/230579/56 "2004-02-23T03:36:22Z")
Just thought I’d try for some intelligent repartee. Perhaps the OP could define his terms regarding use of the word hippie. Is it a particular behavior or lifestyle? Does it include some universal values, beliefs or principles inherent in these “hippies”. Or is it simply guys with long hair? How about the women? Define a hippie woman for me please. Thanks > [@](#): > > “I am a proud Texan and let me tell you this show makes all Texans look bad!” So far this thread isn’t helping much either. We catch enough hell as it is, thanks again. ---
**Author:** ![JeffB](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jeffb/32/188_2.png) [@JeffB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JeffB)\ **Post date:** [February 23, 2004, 3:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-king-of-the-hill/230579/57 "2004-02-23T03:46:27Z")
> [@asterion](#): > > “I know why drugs are bad. If you do drugs you’re a hippie. And hippies suck.” > > “Dolphins, eskimos, who cares? It’s all a bunch of tree hugging hippie crap.” > > “Screw you, hippie.” > > “Hippies, hippies… they want to save the world but all they do is smoke pot and play frisbee!” You forgot the classic from the hate crimes episode: > [@](#): > > I hate hippies! And the way they always talk about protecting the earth and then drive around in cars that get poor gas milage, and wear those stupid bracelets. I HATE EM! I WANNA KICK 'EM IN THE NUTS!!! ---
**Author:** ![Miller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/miller/32/481_2.png) [@Miller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Miller)\ **Post date:** [February 23, 2004, 3:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-king-of-the-hill/230579/58 "2004-02-23T03:49:38Z")
> [@prisoner6655321](#): > > You all are assuming that the masses are as intelligent as the average doper. Wrong assumption. I don’t know about the relative intelligence of “the masses” compared to your average Doper, but I’m pretty sure they’ve got an intellectual leg up on your sad, sorry self. > [@](#): > > Man you guys suck at arguing. We’re not arguing, we’re mocking. You want an argument, repost your OP in Great Debates, and people will line up around the block to eviscerate your deeply, deeply stupid opinions with logic and common sense, instead of just pointing and laughing. ---
**Author:** ![Ilsa\_Lund](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/a6a055/32.png) [@Ilsa\_Lund](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ilsa_Lund)\ **Post date:** [February 23, 2004, 3:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-king-of-the-hill/230579/59 "2004-02-23T03:51:48Z")
> [@JeffB](#): > > You forgot the classic from the hate crimes episode: Independent movies? Those are those black and white hippie movies. They’re all about gay cowboys eating pudding. ---
**Author:** ![Otto](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/bbe5ce/32.png) [@Otto](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Otto)\ **Post date:** [February 23, 2004, 4:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-king-of-the-hill/230579/60 "2004-02-23T04:00:42Z")
The episode was not attacking _all_ hippies. It was only attacking the _evil_ hippies. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-king-of-the-hill/230579.md?page=2) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-king-of-the-hill/230579.md?page=4)