# I Pit LHOD and his thread re: AA in schools **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [June 4, 2009, 2:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-lhod-and-his-thread-re-aa-in-schools/498658 "2009-06-04T02:59:45Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![tdn](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/94ad74/32.png) [@tdn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tdn)\ **Post date:** [June 4, 2009, 5:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-lhod-and-his-thread-re-aa-in-schools/498658/41 "2009-06-04T17:52:39Z")
> [@Rand\_Rover](#): > > So no one cares that LHOD wants to make policy based on his vague notions of what’s good for those little brown people? Suit yourselves. I’ll just think he’s an idiot all on my own. I haven’t even considered the question. I couldn’t get past your bizarre and offensive posting style. ---
**Author:** ![tdn](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/94ad74/32.png) [@tdn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tdn)\ **Post date:** [June 4, 2009, 5:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-lhod-and-his-thread-re-aa-in-schools/498658/42 "2009-06-04T17:53:40Z")
> [@Jack\_Batty](#): > > Fuck sakes. If we stipulate that you’re a millionaire and you own a mansion und a yacht Ja! ---
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [June 4, 2009, 5:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-lhod-and-his-thread-re-aa-in-schools/498658/43 "2009-06-04T17:55:48Z")
> [@Rand\_Rover](#): > > … Now bring me your finest meats and cheeses. Would you like truffles with that, or can you root for them yourself? ---
**Author:** ![Cisco](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/ccd318/32.png) [@Cisco](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cisco)\ **Post date:** [June 4, 2009, 5:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-lhod-and-his-thread-re-aa-in-schools/498658/44 "2009-06-04T17:56:24Z")
> [@Rand\_Rover](#): > > So no one cares that LHOD wants to make policy based on his vague notions of what’s good for those little brown people? Suit yourselves. I’ll just think he’s an idiot all on my own. Well, I disagree with affirmative action except in very specific cases when there is a blindingly obvious problem. I’d rather see some sort of voluntary program to encourage teaching as a career. If black people wanted those jobs they are certainly capable of competing on their own merits without laws to give them an advantage. ---
**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\ **Post date:** [June 4, 2009, 6:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-lhod-and-his-thread-re-aa-in-schools/498658/45 "2009-06-04T18:00:12Z")
> [@Rand\_Rover](#): > > Well considering that “the way I am” is a productive member of society that pays more in taxes than two average households earn each year, I’d say that whatever the reason, I turned out pretty good. Now bring me your finest meats and cheeses. Ha! I pay more for lawn upkeep for my butler’s niece in a month than you pay in taxes for 10 years! Now that’s a giant internet swinging fiscal penis! ---
**Author:** ![glee](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/b5a626/32.png) [@glee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/glee)\ **Post date:** [June 4, 2009, 6:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-lhod-and-his-thread-re-aa-in-schools/498658/46 "2009-06-04T18:01:40Z")
> [@Rand\_Rover](#): > > Well considering that “the way I am” is a productive member of society that pays more in taxes than two average households earn each year, I’d say that whatever the reason, I turned out pretty good. Apart from making unsupported financial claims on the Internet, all you’ve achieved is a crap reputation here. :rolleyes: You don’t know how to structure an argument, you don’t know how to support it with cites and you don’t know how to make friends. :smack: I’d say you desperately needed a role model. ---
**Author:** ![villa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/bc79bd/32.png) [@villa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/villa)\ **Post date:** [June 4, 2009, 6:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-lhod-and-his-thread-re-aa-in-schools/498658/47 "2009-06-04T18:06:32Z")
> [@Rand\_Rover](#): > > Well considering that “the way I am” is a productive member of society that pays more in taxes than two average households earn each year, I’d say that whatever the reason, I turned out pretty good. Now bring me your finest meats and cheeses. Ah grasshopper. When you grow up, you will realize that in any situation where you feel tempted to brag about how much you make, it is likely there will be someone who makes more than you there. By defining your value in terms of finances, you have announced to the room you are less valuable than that person. If you are in the odd situation where you are the richest person in the room in that sense, then people will merely look at you wondering why you aren’t purchasing more drinks for everyone. It’s a common pattern in DC when the new associates get their first pay checks and run out to play. You have, however, managed to make it pretty certain that in every gathering you are the biggest dickhead in the room. And you communicate it pretty successfully to everyone. So why not rest on your laurels for that? ---
**Author:** ![wonky](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wonky/32/393_2.png) [@wonky](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wonky)\ **Post date:** [June 4, 2009, 6:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-lhod-and-his-thread-re-aa-in-schools/498658/48 "2009-06-04T18:07:37Z")
> [@Rand\_Rover](#): > > Well considering that “the way I am” is a productive member of society that pays more in taxes than two average households earn each year, I’d say that whatever the reason, I turned out pretty good. Oh, I’m sure there are lots of people who _envy_ you. I’ve just got my doubts about whether anyone _likes_ you. What’s funny is I can picture you replying to that, “They have to. I have the money.” ---
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [June 4, 2009, 6:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-lhod-and-his-thread-re-aa-in-schools/498658/49 "2009-06-04T18:10:45Z")
Bad news: you’re going to Hell. Good news: its an exclusive, gated community! ---
**Author:** ![Ichini\_Sanshigo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/d9b06d/32.png) [@Ichini\_Sanshigo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ichini_Sanshigo)\ **Post date:** [June 4, 2009, 6:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-lhod-and-his-thread-re-aa-in-schools/498658/50 "2009-06-04T18:10:48Z")
Screw the rules, he has green hair! ---
**Author:** ![Rand\_Rover](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/db5fbb/32.png) [@Rand\_Rover](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rand_Rover)\ **Post date:** [June 4, 2009, 6:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-lhod-and-his-thread-re-aa-in-schools/498658/51 "2009-06-04T18:13:08Z")
> [@glee](#): > > Apart from making unsupported financial claims on the Internet, all you’ve achieved is a crap reputation here. :rolleyes: > > You don’t know how to structure an argument, you don’t know how to support it with cites and you don’t know how to make friends. :smack: > > I’d say you desperately needed a role model. Yeah, but I’m unbeatable as white in the Evans Gambit. So there. ---
**Author:** ![ElvisL1ves](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/5daacb/32.png) [@ElvisL1ves](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ElvisL1ves)\ **Post date:** [June 4, 2009, 6:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-lhod-and-his-thread-re-aa-in-schools/498658/52 "2009-06-04T18:14:50Z")
> [@jsgoddess](#): > > All joking aside, perhaps this really does reflect on something in your makeup. He’s depraved on account of he was deprived. ---
**Author:** ![tdn](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/94ad74/32.png) [@tdn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tdn)\ **Post date:** [June 4, 2009, 6:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-lhod-and-his-thread-re-aa-in-schools/498658/53 "2009-06-04T18:17:04Z")
> [@ElvisL1ves](#): > > He’s depraved on account of he was deprived. So take him to a head shrinker. You! Whenever I hear someone brag about their worth as a person in terms of how much they make, I have to assume that that’s all they have to offer. ---
**Author:** ![wonky](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wonky/32/393_2.png) [@wonky](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wonky)\ **Post date:** [June 4, 2009, 6:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-lhod-and-his-thread-re-aa-in-schools/498658/54 "2009-06-04T18:18:11Z")
Ha! I just realized who you remind me of, RR. Trelane. You know all of the Earth forms, but none of their substance. ---
**Author:** ![Rand\_Rover](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/db5fbb/32.png) [@Rand\_Rover](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rand_Rover)\ **Post date:** [June 4, 2009, 6:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-lhod-and-his-thread-re-aa-in-schools/498658/55 "2009-06-04T18:20:41Z")
> [@tdn](#): > > So take him to a head shrinker. You! > > Whenever I hear someone brag about their worth as a person in terms of how much they make, I have to assume that that’s all they have to offer. What’s your support for the proposition that I think my worth as a person depends on how much money I make? I’ve said no such thing and don’t believe it. ---
**Author:** ![FinnAgain](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/finnagain/32/12500_2.png) [@FinnAgain](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FinnAgain)\ **Post date:** [June 4, 2009, 6:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-lhod-and-his-thread-re-aa-in-schools/498658/56 "2009-06-04T18:29:38Z")
> [@Rand\_Rover](#): > > What’s your support for the proposition that I think my worth as a person depends on how much money I make? I’ve said no such thing and don’t believe it. > [@](#): > > Well considering that “the way I am” is a productive member of society that pays more in taxes than two average households earn each year, I’d say that whatever the reason, I turned out pretty good. Obvious troll is obvious. ---
**Author:** ![Miller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/miller/32/481_2.png) [@Miller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Miller)\ **Post date:** [June 4, 2009, 6:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-lhod-and-his-thread-re-aa-in-schools/498658/57 "2009-06-04T18:35:08Z")
> [@Rand\_Rover](#): > > What’s your support for the proposition that I think my worth as a person depends on how much money I make? I’ve said no such thing and don’t believe it. Your posts are his cite. ---
**Author:** ![nameless](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/779978/32.png) [@nameless](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/nameless)\ **Post date:** [June 4, 2009, 6:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-lhod-and-his-thread-re-aa-in-schools/498658/58 "2009-06-04T18:37:03Z")
> [@Rand\_Rover](#): > > So no one cares that LHOD wants to make policy based on his vague notions of what’s good for those little brown people? Suit yourselves. I’ll just think he’s an idiot all on my own. May I direct you to my post #6? [QUOTE=Rand Rover] Well considering that “the way I am” is a productive member of society that pays more in taxes than two average households earn each year, I’d say that whatever the reason, I turned out pretty good. [/QUOTE] I say! My word! Let’s shine our monocles and give our servant a good kick in the ribs! Quite so! ---
**Author:** ![Rand\_Rover](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/db5fbb/32.png) [@Rand\_Rover](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rand_Rover)\ **Post date:** [June 4, 2009, 6:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-lhod-and-his-thread-re-aa-in-schools/498658/59 "2009-06-04T18:41:03Z")
> [@FinnAgain](#): > > Obvious troll is obvious. Idiotic poster is kinda dumb. ---
**Author:** ![Anduril](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/c0e974/32.png) [@Anduril](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Anduril)\ **Post date:** [June 4, 2009, 6:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-lhod-and-his-thread-re-aa-in-schools/498658/60 "2009-06-04T18:41:45Z")
Rand Rover does make a good point that absent any evidence that a discriminatory (albeit corrective) practice will produce the desired effects, no one should espouse it. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-lhod-and-his-thread-re-aa-in-schools/498658.md?page=2) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-lhod-and-his-thread-re-aa-in-schools/498658.md?page=4)