# I pit Lorretta (the cunt from today's Dear Abby)

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**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [September 12, 2009, 1:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-lorretta-the-cunt-from-todays-dear-abby/509770 "2009-09-12T01:04:40Z")\
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**Author:** ![MOIDALIZE](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e274bd/32.png) [@MOIDALIZE](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MOIDALIZE)\
**Post date:** [September 12, 2009, 3:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-lorretta-the-cunt-from-todays-dear-abby/509770/21 "2009-09-12T03:10:53Z")

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I think a reasonable compromise would be to cremate her and grind her into cat litter.

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**Author:** ![Nzinga\_Seated](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/b5ac83/32.png) [@Nzinga\_Seated](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Nzinga_Seated)\
**Post date:** [September 12, 2009, 3:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-lorretta-the-cunt-from-todays-dear-abby/509770/22 "2009-09-12T03:30:04Z")

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> [@Una\_Persson](#):
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> God damn it, that was predictable. Now I have to take a drink.

Haa! Wasn’t it? It was almost like the OP and first response was staged, just to get the thread warmed up and going.

People who are calling her human garbage, and saying she deserves to die alone and all that…can we really condemn her that hardcore without knowing what’s up with her, overall? I mean, some people don’t view animals with as soft a heart as they view people, not by a long shot. Right or wrong, there are tons of people like that. Possibly, she is a sweetheart to most humans? Takes in the sick and the needy, and whatnot? I mean, do we really want someone like that to rot away alone in a nursing home?

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**Author:** ![cerberus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/71e660/32.png) [@cerberus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cerberus)\
**Post date:** [September 12, 2009, 3:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-lorretta-the-cunt-from-todays-dear-abby/509770/23 "2009-09-12T03:32:28Z")

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> My mother-in-law, “Loretta,” was anxious for them to move out, so she told them to take the apartment and she’d keep the cat at her home.

She took on the responsibility …

and then…

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> Shortly after, Loretta asked my husband to secretly get rid of it. (Her husband had refused.) When my husband said he couldn’t do it, she took matters into her own hands, drove Precious 10 miles away from her house and dumped her on the side of the road.

May Bast Herself inflict a permanent UTI on the fucking cunt’s urinary tract. May her future guardians “secretly get rid of her.”

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**Author:** ![MOIDALIZE](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e274bd/32.png) [@MOIDALIZE](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MOIDALIZE)\
**Post date:** [September 12, 2009, 3:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-lorretta-the-cunt-from-todays-dear-abby/509770/24 "2009-09-12T03:34:46Z")

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Human sacrifice, Cerberus and Bast living together…mass hysteria!

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**Author:** ![Nzinga\_Seated](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/b5ac83/32.png) [@Nzinga\_Seated](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Nzinga_Seated)\
**Post date:** [September 12, 2009, 3:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-lorretta-the-cunt-from-todays-dear-abby/509770/25 "2009-09-12T03:41:20Z")

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> [@cerberus](#):
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> May her future guardians “secretly get rid of her.”

Man, ya’ll trippin’. No way she deserves that over dumping a cat. I love cats. Cats are the cool of the animal kingdom. If someone dumped my own cat, I’d be inconsolable. But I wouldn’t wish them to be abandoned in their own old age.

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**Author:** ![Ludovic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/7ab992/32.png) [@Ludovic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ludovic)\
**Post date:** [September 12, 2009, 3:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-lorretta-the-cunt-from-todays-dear-abby/509770/26 "2009-09-12T03:49:48Z")

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Get that cat back, Loretta!

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**Author:** ![CT\_Damsel](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/dfb087/32.png) [@CT\_Damsel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CT_Damsel)\
**Post date:** [September 12, 2009, 3:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-lorretta-the-cunt-from-todays-dear-abby/509770/27 "2009-09-12T03:51:31Z")

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> [@MOIDALIZE](#):
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> I think a reasonable compromise would be to cremate her and grind her into cat litter.

Amen!🆒

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**Author:** ![Indygrrl](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/58f4c7/32.png) [@Indygrrl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Indygrrl)\
**Post date:** [September 12, 2009, 4:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-lorretta-the-cunt-from-todays-dear-abby/509770/28 "2009-09-12T04:13:03Z")

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> [@Nzinga\_Seated](#):
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> Man, ya’ll trippin’. No way she deserves that over dumping a cat. I love cats. Cats are the cool of the animal kingdom. If someone dumped my own cat, I’d be inconsolable. But I wouldn’t wish them to be abandoned in their own old age.

No shit! And I love the wild assumptions being made about this situation, such as:

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> Here’s another thing to keep in mind; while her children & grandchildren were out looking for Precious they were also probally trying to comfort the cunt and telling her things like “It’s okay Ma, we know it wasn’t your fault Precious ran away” and the cunt just stood there and acted like she deserved to be treated like that. She’s human garbage.

Or she might have felt terrible about what happened, ashamed of herself, even. Maybe she isn’t too bright and couldn’t think of a better way to handle it. She could have mental or physical illness, be living in poverty, or have any number of other things going on in her life that led her to dump the cat. Or she might be an evil cunt who lives to make children cry. But without more info, I think the assumption that she’s a sociopath is a bit histrionic.

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**Author:** ![Cat\_Whisperer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cat_whisperer/32/4839_2.png) [@Cat\_Whisperer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cat_Whisperer)\
**Post date:** [September 12, 2009, 4:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-lorretta-the-cunt-from-todays-dear-abby/509770/29 "2009-09-12T04:17:15Z")

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There obviously is a shelter near her, so if she felt she had to do the dishonourable thing and get rid of a cat she promised to look after (and it was dishonourable; she lied, she broke her word, and she treated an animal in her care badly - three very dishonourable things), she could have taken it to a shelter to be re-adopted or euthanized humanely (she could have explained that she was bringing it in for her son, if they questioned the ownership of the cat). Just dumping it is one of those things we do in modern society that I particularly hate; take responsibility for your problems and your actions, goddammit. What would I do to Loretta? Nothing - she has to live with herself. I think her karma will come around on her at some point.

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**Author:** ![dropzone](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dropzone/32/7515_2.png) [@dropzone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dropzone)\
**Post date:** [September 12, 2009, 5:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-lorretta-the-cunt-from-todays-dear-abby/509770/30 "2009-09-12T05:20:18Z")

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> [@MOIDALIZE](#):
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> I never would have tabbed **magellan** as a cat lover.

Fuck, I never would have tabbed him as a lover of ANYTHING except the sound of his typing.

Congrats, **Mags** , you’ve been promoted to “semi-human.” 😃 And I love the sound of my own typing, too, except this crappy computer has a USB keyboard and my classic IBM PC-AT keyboard doesn’t work.

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**Author:** ![Rubystreak](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e5b9ba/32.png) [@Rubystreak](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rubystreak)\
**Post date:** [September 12, 2009, 5:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-lorretta-the-cunt-from-todays-dear-abby/509770/31 "2009-09-12T05:36:49Z")

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> [@Indygrrl](#):
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> Or she might have felt terrible about what happened, ashamed of herself, even. Maybe she isn’t too bright and couldn’t think of a better way to handle it. She could have mental or physical illness, be living in poverty, or have any number of other things going on in her life that led her to dump the cat. Or she might be an evil cunt who lives to make children cry. But without more info, I think the assumption that she’s a sociopath is a bit histrionic.

She would honestly have to have a subhuman intellect if this is the best solution she could come up with. Get a cardboard box, put the cat in it, close it up, and drop it off in front of the nearest animal shelter an hour before they open. Not a wonderful course of action for someone who promised care she won’t deliver, but certainly a better one if she’s determined to dump the cat unceremoniously, but if she were not evil enough to be completely indifferent to its fate. How would that have been much harder than what she did? And is it really something that a person of middling intelligence or a poor person couldn’t manage?

As for her being mentally ill or disabled, well, you’re making stuff up every bit as much as you say alphaboi is. She might just as easily be a selfish, heartless bitch as a poor, disabled crazy person who can’t help herself.

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**Author:** ![TurboNuke](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/f19dbf/32.png) [@TurboNuke](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TurboNuke)\
**Post date:** [September 12, 2009, 8:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-lorretta-the-cunt-from-todays-dear-abby/509770/32 "2009-09-12T08:41:22Z")

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Dropping the cat on the side of the road is nearly the same as torturing the cat to death.

Either take care of it or have it put to sleep.

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**Author:** ![Lynn\_Bodoni](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/e47c2d/32.png) [@Lynn\_Bodoni](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lynn_Bodoni)\
**Post date:** [September 12, 2009, 9:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-lorretta-the-cunt-from-todays-dear-abby/509770/33 "2009-09-12T09:44:42Z")

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> [@Nzinga\_Seated](#):
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> Haa! Wasn’t it? It was almost like the OP and first response was staged, just to get the thread warmed up and going.
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> People who are calling her human garbage, and saying she deserves to die alone and all that…can we really condemn her that hardcore without knowing what’s up with her, overall? I mean, some people don’t view animals with as soft a heart as they view people, not by a long shot. Right or wrong, there are tons of people like that. Possibly, she is a sweetheart to most humans? Takes in the sick and the needy, and whatnot? I mean, do we really want someone like that to rot away alone in a nursing home?

She deserves exactly the same fate that she was trying to inflict on the cat, and just as much mercy and compassion as she showed to it. She could have, and should have, told the family that she wasn’t willing to take care of the cat in the first place, and tried to find at least a temporary home with someone else. Or she could have told the family, after they moved out, that she couldn’t stand the cat any more. At the very, very least, she could have dropped it off at a shelter. It might have been put down, but at least it wouldn’t be scared to death, starving, and probably injured in its last days.

People DO adopt adult cats. The last two cats that I’ve adopted were adults (a year old and four years old) who were given up by their former owners. They are both very loving.

Loretta is a lying sack of shit who has no honor, and she shouldn’t expect any more respect than she gives others, and I hope that someone breaks her heart like she broke that family’s hearts.

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**Author:** ![calm\_kiwi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/9fc348/32.png) [@calm\_kiwi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/calm_kiwi)\
**Post date:** [September 12, 2009, 11:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-lorretta-the-cunt-from-todays-dear-abby/509770/34 "2009-09-12T11:07:11Z")

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The woman dumping the cat was certainly not acting as a trustworthy friend or family member but surely a statement like this

> [@TurboNuke](#):
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> Dropping the cat on the side of the road is nearly the same as torturing the cat to death. Either take care of it or have it put to sleep.

is a complete over reaction?

Cats are very hardy creatures and perfectly capable of looking after themselves. While this woman let down the cats owner, I doubt the cat felt like it was being tortured.

If the cat was given a vote between becoming “free range” or put to sleep, I’m fairly certain being dumped would win over being killed.

Loretta would make a fucking terrible babysitter and I wouldn’t trust her as far as I could throw her but I don’t think she was cruel…well not to the cat anyway.

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**Author:** ![Lynn\_Bodoni](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/e47c2d/32.png) [@Lynn\_Bodoni](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lynn_Bodoni)\
**Post date:** [September 12, 2009, 12:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-lorretta-the-cunt-from-todays-dear-abby/509770/35 "2009-09-12T12:30:15Z")

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> If the cat was given a vote between becoming “free range” or put to sleep, I’m fairly certain being dumped would win over being killed.

Dumping is almost certainly a death sentence to a cat. Some cats will survive. Most will slowly starve, or die of injuries, unless a human looks after them.

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**Author:** ![MN\_Maenad](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e95f7d/32.png) [@MN\_Maenad](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MN_Maenad)\
**Post date:** [September 12, 2009, 12:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-lorretta-the-cunt-from-todays-dear-abby/509770/36 "2009-09-12T12:49:31Z")

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> [@calm\_kiwi](#):
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> Cats are very hardy creatures and perfectly capable of looking after themselves.

Oh really?

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> The average life span of a feral cat that survives beyond kittenhood is about two years for individual cats and five years for cats in a managed colony.[2] An indoor domestic housecat lives an average of 12 to 16 years.

Granted, it’s from [Wikipedia](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Feral_cat), but I really don’t consider a best-case lifespan of 5 years versus 16 years to be “perfectly capable”. Would you be happy living free in the wild until you’re 30 rather than in a society until 90?

Loretta is a cunt, but not just because of what she did to the cat, but _what she did to her own family_. Even if you believe that humans \>\>\> pets, the cruelty she showed to her own grandchildren is enough to deserve the label.

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**Author:** ![calm\_kiwi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/9fc348/32.png) [@calm\_kiwi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/calm_kiwi)\
**Post date:** [September 12, 2009, 12:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-lorretta-the-cunt-from-todays-dear-abby/509770/37 "2009-09-12T12:51:52Z")

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> [@Lynn\_Bodoni](#):
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> Dumping is almost certainly a death sentence to a cat. Some cats will survive. Most will slowly starve, or die of injuries, unless a human looks after them.

I knew I shouldn’t have said anything because the life of the cat is obviously very different in my country to yours.

In New Zealand a dumped cat is probably a very happy cat. Many of our native birds are endangered because of wild cats, so clearly starvation is not an issue. Cats are also VERY good scavengers and extremely good at looking after themselves.

But we don’t have any wildlife who want to have pussy cat for dinner, so (at least) at this end of the world a dumped pussy cat would feel better than a dead cat.

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**Author:** ![calm\_kiwi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/9fc348/32.png) [@calm\_kiwi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/calm_kiwi)\
**Post date:** [September 12, 2009, 12:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-lorretta-the-cunt-from-todays-dear-abby/509770/38 "2009-09-12T12:55:47Z")

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And I fully agree she was cruel to her family.

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**Author:** ![Jettboy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/85e7bf/32.png) [@Jettboy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jettboy)\
**Post date:** [September 12, 2009, 1:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-lorretta-the-cunt-from-todays-dear-abby/509770/39 "2009-09-12T13:05:32Z")

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> [@Lynn\_Bodoni](#):
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> She deserves exactly the same fate that she was trying to inflict on the cat, and just as much mercy and compassion as she showed to it.

NEWS FLASH! It’s a fucking _cat_.

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**Author:** ![Indygrrl](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/58f4c7/32.png) [@Indygrrl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Indygrrl)\
**Post date:** [September 12, 2009, 1:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-lorretta-the-cunt-from-todays-dear-abby/509770/40 "2009-09-12T13:05:40Z")

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> [@Rubystreak](#):
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> She would honestly have to have a subhuman intellect if this is the best solution she could come up with. Get a cardboard box, put the cat in it, close it up, and drop it off in front of the nearest animal shelter an hour before they open. Not a wonderful course of action for someone who promised care she won’t deliver, but certainly a better one if she’s determined to dump the cat unceremoniously, but if she were not evil enough to be completely indifferent to its fate. How would that have been much harder than what she did? And is it really something that a person of middling intelligence or a poor person couldn’t manage?

You missed my point. All I was saying is that without all of the information, it’s crazy to condemn the woman. We’re hearing the story from ONE point-of-view. Who knows? All of this might have happened completely differently than it was explained in the letter.

“Dear Abby” isn’t exactly a pinnacle of good journalism. It’s not like they fact-check the letters before publishing them. That is why I’m inclined to give the woman the benefit of the doubt.

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> As for her being mentally ill or disabled, well, you’re making stuff up every bit as much as you say alphaboi is. She might just as easily be a selfish, heartless bitch as a poor, disabled crazy person who can’t help herself.

I didn’t say she WAS mentally ill or disabled, I said she COULD BE. Alphaboi was telling like he knows the family personally. And I also said that she could be an evil cunt who lives to make children cry. But without all of the information, we don’t know anything substantial about the woman.

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