# I Pit Magiver **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [March 13, 2021, 9:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-magiver/937851 "2021-03-13T21:55:54Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 16
**Author:** ![Spiderman](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/spiderman/32/230_2.png) [@Spiderman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spiderman)\ **Post date:** [November 20, 2025, 5:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-magiver/937851/301 "2025-11-20T17:54:22Z")
> [@Czarcasm](#): > > then the both of them would flounce off in “triumph” No doubt running thru a field of flowers. It would be a ‘meet-cute’ story…until they try & tell it again & get into dispute of the ‘facts’ of how their bromance began. ---
**Author:** ![wolfpup](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wolfpup/32/10618_2.png) [@wolfpup](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wolfpup)\ **Post date:** [November 22, 2025, 5:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-magiver/937851/302 "2025-11-22T05:05:17Z")
Wow, Magiver just won’t quit in that thread about the off-duty pilot who tried to cut the plane’s engines. He keeps going and going, like the Energizer Bunny and DrDeth. His main interest appears to be retribution. He appears to believe that not only should the pilot (now ex-pilot) have been jailed, I’m sure Magiver would be happy to learn that he had also been beaten with a baseball bat. ---
**Author:** ![gnoitall](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/bb73d2/32.png) [@gnoitall](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gnoitall)\ **Post date:** [November 22, 2025, 5:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-magiver/937851/303 "2025-11-22T05:10:33Z")
FWIW, I think everyone needs to stop feeding his trollery and let that highjack die. Wrestling with a pig… ---
**Author:** ![ASL\_v2.0](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/asl_v2.0/32/3525_2.png) [@ASL\_v2.0](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ASL_v2.0)\ **Post date:** [November 22, 2025, 5:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-magiver/937851/304 "2025-11-22T05:16:49Z")
Show of hands: is there anyone who has had a positive interaction with **Magiver**? ---
**Author:** ![TroutMan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/troutman/32/6721_2.png) [@TroutMan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TroutMan)\ **Post date:** [November 22, 2025, 5:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-magiver/937851/305 "2025-11-22T05:35:21Z")
Sure! Double monkey punch? Motorcycle commando airdrop? Comedy gold. ---
**Author:** ![ASL\_v2.0](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/asl_v2.0/32/3525_2.png) [@ASL\_v2.0](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ASL_v2.0)\ **Post date:** [November 22, 2025, 6:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-magiver/937851/306 "2025-11-22T06:10:13Z")
Let me clarify: an _unironic_ positive interaction. ---
**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\ **Post date:** [November 22, 2025, 6:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-magiver/937851/307 "2025-11-22T06:25:27Z")
I figured out long ago that he was less than useless, and was actively toxic to this board. He is, no question, the absolute worst poster that has not been banned yet. I banned him from **my** perspective long ago. ---
**Author:** ![Cervaise](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cervaise/32/16693_2.png) [@Cervaise](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cervaise)\ **Post date:** [November 22, 2025, 9:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-magiver/937851/308 "2025-11-22T09:14:05Z")
> [@ASL\_v2.0](#): > > Show of hands: is there anyone who has had a positive interaction with **Magiver**? Well, his posts are not infinitely long. They do eventually end. That’s a positive. ---
**Author:** ![Buck\_Godot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/buck_godot/32/6573_2.png) [@Buck\_Godot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Buck_Godot)\ **Post date:** [November 23, 2025, 5:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-magiver/937851/309 "2025-11-23T17:08:47Z")
The problem is that is that people took issue with his stance being overly harsh and so there for he was forced to double triple and quadruple down on that stance regardless of the absurdity. If instead the teeming millions came down on the side that Magiver’s initial assessment was overly lenient, by now he would be arguing that the pilot in question deserved full reinstatement and a medal. ---
**Author:** ![HMS\_Irruncible](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hms_irruncible/32/7394_2.png) [@HMS\_Irruncible](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/HMS_Irruncible)\ **Post date:** [November 23, 2025, 5:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-magiver/937851/310 "2025-11-23T17:41:26Z")
> [@wolfpup](#): > > Wow, Magiver just won’t quit in that thread about the off-duty pilot who tried to cut the plane’s engines. He keeps going and going, like the Energizer Bunny and DrDeth. His main interest appears to be retribution. He appears to believe that not only should the pilot (now ex-pilot) have been jailed, I’m sure Magiver would be happy to learn that he had also been beaten with a baseball bat. As I scan it, he thinks drug users should be treated like mad dogs who should be punished not only for the offense they committed, but for other types of offenses that they haven’t yet committed. Like most right-wing carceralists he also seems not to be aware that not every drug causes the same types of issues. His suggestion that someone who used psychedelic mushrooms will be driving down the highway and suddenly need a “pick-me-up” is like something you’d read from a Jack Chick tract with people talking about snorting lines of reefer or whatever. > [@gnoitall](#): > > FWIW, I think everyone needs to stop feeding his trollery and let that highjack die. Agreed. I don’t think he’s a _purposeful_ troll, in the sense of saying insincere things to get a rise out of people. But make no mistake, he absolutely loves the fact that he’s a brick wall that liberals love to hurl themselves against, thinking he’s might see reason, when he knows he has no intention whatsoever of budging. I fall into that trap with him now and then. He’ll post something with flaws that are so obvious that it seems that surely they can be easily refuted simple and obvious correction, and then I realize, he’s not at all embarrassed to just keep repeating the error endlessly until I’m exhausted. It’s better to save your strength for more worthy pursuits. ---
**Author:** ![gnoitall](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/bb73d2/32.png) [@gnoitall](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gnoitall)\ **Post date:** [November 23, 2025, 7:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-magiver/937851/311 "2025-11-23T19:48:25Z")
> [@HMS\_Irruncible](#): > > He’ll post something with flaws that are so obvious that it seems that surely they can be easily refuted simple and obvious correction, and then I realize, he’s not at all embarrassed to just keep repeating the error endlessly until I’m exhausted. There’s a reason that fighting ignorance is “…taking longer than we thought.” And Magiver is an example of that reason. ---
**Author:** ![LSLGuy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lslguy/32/5813_2.png) [@LSLGuy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LSLGuy)\ **Post date:** [November 23, 2025, 9:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-magiver/937851/312 "2025-11-23T21:00:32Z")
There are none so ~~blind~~ stupid as they who will not ~~see~~ learn. ---
**Author:** ![scudsucker](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/scudsucker/32/14101_2.png) [@scudsucker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/scudsucker)\ **Post date:** [November 24, 2025, 5:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-magiver/937851/313 "2025-11-24T05:54:43Z")
> [@HMS\_Irruncible](#): > > people talking about snorting lines of reefer or whatever Aside: In my younger days, I indeed tried this. Spoiler: it doesn’t work. ---
**Author:** ![wolfpup](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wolfpup/32/10618_2.png) [@wolfpup](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wolfpup)\ **Post date:** [November 25, 2025, 8:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-magiver/937851/314 "2025-11-25T20:59:42Z")
When I last looked at the thread about the off-duty pilot who tried to shut off the plane’s engines (I think it was yesterday) **Magiver** ’s position was being smacked down but he had not yet responded. I figured it was just a matter of a short amount of time. And sure enough, he’s back, repeating the same bullshit again and again. And this time gets a huge mod note to STFU about it already. The constant stubborn repetition is separate from the stupidity of his views. His primary thesis appears to be that when criminals are in jail, they can no longer commit crimes. Know where else that exact same brilliant philosophy was articulated? In a Dilbert cartoon, around the time that Scott Adams was losing his marbles and becoming a full-on insane mouth-frothing Trump supporter, or had already done so. Of course it can make sense for violent repeat offenders to be locked up for life, but **Magiver** seems to be of the opinion that anyone who commits a crime should be jailed forever, or at least for a very long time. The latter attitude is what leads to high rates of recidivism because in many different ways it spawns a permanent criminal underclass of people who can no longer be rehabilitated. In short, **Magiver** is a fucking moron, and congenitally incapable of stifling his repetitive exhibition of it. . ---
**Author:** ![LSLGuy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lslguy/32/5813_2.png) [@LSLGuy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LSLGuy)\ **Post date:** [November 25, 2025, 10:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-magiver/937851/315 "2025-11-25T22:18:22Z")
He’s been beating the “pilot belongs in prison” drum for a week now. And has just been modded to STFU on that sub-topic. ---
**Author:** ![TroutMan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/troutman/32/6721_2.png) [@TroutMan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TroutMan)\ **Post date:** [January 10, 2026, 9:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-magiver/937851/316 "2026-01-10T21:16:35Z")
[Fucking hell people,](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-ice-shooting-in-minneapolis-1-7-2026/1026461/395) you do not win an argument with Magiver. He will just post the same idiotic things over and over, and will never address any valid points that oppose his position. Just stop engaging. ---
**Author:** ![DavidNRockies](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/davidnrockies/32/6279_2.png) [@DavidNRockies](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DavidNRockies)\ **Post date:** [January 10, 2026, 9:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-magiver/937851/317 "2026-01-10T21:19:39Z")
Point taken. [Looks at watch] Today is the day that I learned – and, perhaps, the first time I’ve used the expression on the SDMB – that Magiver is a fucking idiot. ---
**Author:** ![JackieLikesVariety](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jackielikesvariety/32/296_2.png) [@JackieLikesVariety](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JackieLikesVariety)\ **Post date:** [January 10, 2026, 9:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-magiver/937851/318 "2026-01-10T21:29:36Z")
> [@HMS\_Irruncible](#): > > He’ll post something with flaws that are so obvious that it seems that surely they can be easily refuted simple and obvious correction, and then I realize, he’s not at all embarrassed to just keep repeating the error endlessly until I’m exhausted. despite having him on ignore, I can’t read the !ce shooting thread without having real worry for the posters that keep replying to him. They start out just stating facts and before you know it THEY HAVE TO SHOUT. unless they otherwise have blood pressure that is too low, I don’t think this is doing anybody any good. ---
**Author:** ![crowmanyclouds](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/crowmanyclouds/32/19884_2.png) [@crowmanyclouds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/crowmanyclouds)\ **Post date:** [January 10, 2026, 9:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-magiver/937851/319 "2026-01-10T21:29:48Z")
Yes, and maybe the Mods will finally ban his sealioning ass after dozens of time where engaging with him shows him for what he is. ---
**Author:** ![Jihi](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jihi/32/17768_2.png) [@Jihi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jihi)\ **Post date:** [January 10, 2026, 9:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-magiver/937851/320 "2026-01-10T21:30:18Z")
Yep. I swallowed the bait hook, line and sinker. That’s on me. I will be bowing out of that thread as he has done an excellent job of turning it into the “Magiver show”. Brick wall of idiocy. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-magiver/937851.md?page=15) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-magiver/937851.md?page=17)