# I Pit Magiver **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [March 13, 2021, 9:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-magiver/937851 "2021-03-13T21:55:54Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 17
**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\ **Post date:** [January 10, 2026, 9:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-magiver/937851/321 "2026-01-10T21:31:06Z")
Me too. Ignored now. ---
**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\ **Post date:** [January 10, 2026, 9:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-magiver/937851/322 "2026-01-10T21:36:18Z")
As long as the mods realize that he is deliberately trying to “win” by trying to get the thread shut down. ---
**Author:** ![duality72](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/duality72/32/3910_2.png) [@duality72](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/duality72)\ **Post date:** [January 10, 2026, 10:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-magiver/937851/323 "2026-01-10T22:10:14Z")
First poster I’ve ignored in a long time, but blatant disregard for reality does it for me. ---
**Author:** ![wolfpup](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wolfpup/32/10618_2.png) [@wolfpup](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wolfpup)\ **Post date:** [January 10, 2026, 10:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-magiver/937851/324 "2026-01-10T22:47:35Z")
> [@JackieLikesVariety](#): > > despite having him on ignore, I can’t read the !ce shooting thread without having real worry for the posters that keep replying to him. They start out just stating facts and before you know it THEY HAVE TO SHOUT. unless they otherwise have blood pressure that is too low, I don’t think this is doing anybody any good. I just returned to the Minneapolis ICE shooting thread after being out of it for a while. I see that Magiver is taking the position of Trump and his gang of sycophantic liars rather than the position supported by facts and evidence, and polluting that thread with his usual mule-like stubborn persistence. The ~~world~~ board would be a better place if Magiver would just at least learn to STFU after a while. Look, Magiver, if you’re reading this, going on and on and on and on repetitively with the same damn stupid argument is not going to convince anyone, it’s just going to annoy them. > [@LSLGuy](#): > > He’s been beating the “pilot belongs in prison” drum for a week now. > > And has just been modded to STFU on that sub-topic. JFC, the mod note cited no fewer than 10 instances of repeating the same damn point over and over again! ---
**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\ **Post date:** [January 10, 2026, 11:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-magiver/937851/325 "2026-01-10T23:05:24Z")
> [@wolfpup](#): > > Look, Magiver, if you’re reading this, going on and on and on and on repetitively with the same damn stupid argument is not going to convince anyone, it’s just going to annoy them. Annoying people is the entire reason he posts in the first place. He’s not trying to convince anyone. He’s just trying (and succeeding) at being an asshole. ---
**Author:** ![wolfpup](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wolfpup/32/10618_2.png) [@wolfpup](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wolfpup)\ **Post date:** [January 10, 2026, 11:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-magiver/937851/326 "2026-01-10T23:54:01Z")
> [@Euphonious\_Polemic](#): > > Annoying people is the entire reason he posts in the first place. He’s not trying to convince anyone. He’s just trying (and succeeding) at being an asshole.   Honestly, I don’t think so. That would make him a troll, and I don’t think that’s what he is, at least not intentionally. I think it’s all about misplaced arrogance. “Behold my superior knowledge and analytical skills, and cower before them. If some of you are too stupid to appreciate my brilliant insights, I will repeat them – over and over again – until you do.” When you put arrogance and stupidity together, the results can be quite amusing. The all-time classic example: Donald J Trump. With whom Magiver seems to agree about a lot of stuff, including the Minneapolis ICE shooting. It was all the victim’s fault, the mother of three children who had just dropped off one of them at school and then clearly wanted to engage in a battle to the death with ICE officers. In Magiver’s world, the victims are always guilty, and police and military can do no wrong. ---
**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\ **Post date:** [January 10, 2026, 11:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-magiver/937851/327 "2026-01-10T23:57:26Z")
Everything he does in that thread directly points to his deliberately trying to “win” by getting the thread shut down. ---
**Author:** ![kambuckta](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/53a042/32.png) [@kambuckta](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kambuckta)\ **Post date:** [January 11, 2026, 12:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-magiver/937851/328 "2026-01-11T00:05:14Z")
HIs obtuseness is just mind-boggling. I’ve never really encountered Magiver before but this one opened my eyes…my eyelids are half-way stretched over my bloody head! ---
**Author:** ![SuntanLotion](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/suntanlotion/32/16165_2.png) [@SuntanLotion](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SuntanLotion)\ **Post date:** [January 11, 2026, 12:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-magiver/937851/329 "2026-01-11T00:06:49Z")
What kambuckta said. Obtuse came to my mind too. ---
**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\ **Post date:** [January 11, 2026, 12:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-magiver/937851/330 "2026-01-11T00:26:39Z")
> [@wolfpup](#): > > In Magiver’s world, the victims are always guilty, and police and military can do no wrong. Except for when it comes to opting not to airdrop motorcycle-riding paratroopers into the middle of a battlefield. ---
**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\ **Post date:** [January 11, 2026, 12:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-magiver/937851/331 "2026-01-11T00:43:07Z")
_Megaforce Rules!_ ---
**Author:** ![Buck\_Godot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/buck_godot/32/6573_2.png) [@Buck\_Godot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Buck_Godot)\ **Post date:** [January 11, 2026, 1:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-magiver/937851/332 "2026-01-11T01:14:36Z")
It is interesting comparing and contrasting Magiver’s arguments in that thread with his arguments in [this thread](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-has-to-stop-extreme-actions-at-political-gathering/843927) where he claimed that it hitting a car with an umbrella is much more aggressive than deliberately accelerating your car into a protestor and pushing him 6 feet. ---
**Author:** ![Great\_Antibob](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e47c2d/32.png) [@Great\_Antibob](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Great_Antibob)\ **Post date:** [January 11, 2026, 1:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-magiver/937851/333 "2026-01-11T01:36:58Z")
> [@wolfpup](#): > > I think it’s all about misplaced arrogance. Who? Mr “Double monkey punch while atop an airdropped motorcycle” just might not know what he’s talking about? ---
**Author:** ![wolfpup](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wolfpup/32/10618_2.png) [@wolfpup](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wolfpup)\ **Post date:** [January 11, 2026, 1:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-magiver/937851/334 "2026-01-11T01:42:55Z")
> [@Great\_Antibob](#): > > Who? Mr “Double monkey punch while atop an airdropped motorcycle” just might not know what he’s talking about?   > [@wolfpup](#): > > When you put arrogance and stupidity together, the results can be quite amusing 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![DavidNRockies](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/davidnrockies/32/6279_2.png) [@DavidNRockies](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DavidNRockies)\ **Post date:** [January 11, 2026, 1:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-magiver/937851/335 "2026-01-11T01:45:23Z")
> [@wolfpup](#): > > When you put arrogance and stupidity together, the results can be quite amusing. _“Nothing in the world is more dangerous than sincere ignorance and conscientious stupidity.”_ –MLK ---
**Author:** ![wolfpup](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wolfpup/32/10618_2.png) [@wolfpup](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wolfpup)\ **Post date:** [January 11, 2026, 1:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-magiver/937851/336 "2026-01-11T01:52:21Z")
Yes, I should add “amusing from a distance, when it has no immediate effect on you”. But indeed horrifying if it does, or if it might. ---
**Author:** ![LSLGuy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lslguy/32/5813_2.png) [@LSLGuy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LSLGuy)\ **Post date:** [January 11, 2026, 3:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-magiver/937851/337 "2026-01-11T03:06:52Z")
> [@wolfpup](#): > > When you put arrogance and stupidity together, the results can be quite amusing. The all-time classic example: Donald J Trump. That’s much, but not all, of the story. When you also add reflexive right wing authority worship to the mix it gives your hard-on a predominant direction to point. Which dumb but turgid one-eyed direction makes the rest of his schtick a lot more predictable. It’s still majorly lame. But at least now you can predict in which way it will be lame. ---
**Author:** ![DesertDog](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/desertdog/32/11503_2.png) [@DesertDog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DesertDog)\ **Post date:** [January 11, 2026, 6:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-magiver/937851/338 "2026-01-11T06:01:19Z")
> [@wolfpup](#): > > When you put arrogance and stupidity together, the results can be quite amusing. Only on television. [![](https://i.imgur.com/fEuVES0.gif) ](https://i.imgur.com/fEuVES0.gif) And congratulations to **Magiver**. This is the first time ever I’ve been motivated to post in an _I Pit [name]_ thread. ---
**Author:** ![EnglishGrey](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/englishgrey/32/14111_2.png) [@EnglishGrey](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EnglishGrey)\ **Post date:** [January 11, 2026, 10:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-magiver/937851/339 "2026-01-11T22:45:52Z")
> [@DavidNRockies](#): > > _Nothing in the world is more dangerous than sincere ignorance and conscientious stupidity.”_ > > –MLK Is it just me, or is this nonsense? I can think of 10 more dangerous things, before breakfast even. ---
**Author:** ![DavidNRockies](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/davidnrockies/32/6279_2.png) [@DavidNRockies](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DavidNRockies)\ **Post date:** [January 11, 2026, 11:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-magiver/937851/340 "2026-01-11T23:29:24Z")
I’d like to respond to that by offering up this 23 second **[video clip](https://youtu.be/V8lT1o0sDwI)**. Thank you for your attention to this matter! [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-magiver/937851.md?page=16) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-magiver/937851.md?page=18)