# I Pit Magiver

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-magiver/937851>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [March 13, 2021, 9:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-magiver/937851 "2021-03-13T21:55:54Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Spiderman](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/spiderman/32/230_2.png) [@Spiderman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spiderman)\
**Post date:** [April 2, 2026, 4:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-magiver/937851/381 "2026-04-02T16:07:27Z")

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Now we get that the fatal crash between Air Canada plane & ARFF truck at LGA wouldn’t have happened if we had put ‘school bus’ rules into place.

> [@The Great Ongoing Aviation Thread (general and other)](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-great-ongoing-aviation-thread-general-and-other/600499/9573):
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> The Air Canada / fire truck crash scenario could be mitigated with school bus rules. Treat every runway as if it’s a rail road track and always come to a complete stop and look both ways. That would back up standard clearance instructions.

I’m sure that’s better than putting transponders in vehicles so that the automated systems would see them.

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**Author:** ![Pork\_Rind](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pork_rind/32/111_2.png) [@Pork\_Rind](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Pork_Rind)\
**Post date:** [April 2, 2026, 4:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-magiver/937851/382 "2026-04-02T16:55:20Z")

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Perhaps the pilots of that Air Canada plane would have not hit the truck if it had just extended its “STOP” sign. School bus rules, you know?

[![](https://beersandgordonlaw.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/08/closeup-shot-of-extended-red-stop-sign-on-yellow-s-2023-11-27-04-52-41-utc-Large-1024x683.jpg) ](https://beersandgordonlaw.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/08/closeup-shot-of-extended-red-stop-sign-on-yellow-s-2023-11-27-04-52-41-utc-Large-1024x683.jpg)

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**Author:** ![Great\_Antibob](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e47c2d/32.png) [@Great\_Antibob](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Great_Antibob)\
**Post date:** [April 2, 2026, 5:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-magiver/937851/383 "2026-04-02T17:10:28Z")

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This is why every aircraft needs motorcycles. So they can be deployed before, during, or after a flight for whatever jobs needs to be done

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**Author:** ![abcdefghij](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/43a26b/32.png) [@abcdefghij](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/abcdefghij)\
**Post date:** [April 2, 2026, 6:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-magiver/937851/384 "2026-04-02T18:40:30Z")

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When I was a kid, my dad’s Piper Cherokee had a motorcycle. It was handy.

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**Author:** ![Spiderman](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/spiderman/32/230_2.png) [@Spiderman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spiderman)\
**Post date:** [April 15, 2026, 1:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-magiver/937851/385 "2026-04-15T13:42:51Z")

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He’s a great sniffer-outter of [FAKE NEWS](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-great-ongoing-aviation-thread-general-and-other/600499/9636)!

IOW, he doesn’t believe a widely reported news story about what a pilot did in his last flight before retiring & the photos are obviously fake

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**Author:** ![Joey\_P](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/919ad9/32.png) [@Joey\_P](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Joey_P)\
**Post date:** [April 15, 2026, 2:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-magiver/937851/386 "2026-04-15T14:04:16Z")

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There’s video from [inside](https://www.reddit.com/r/aviation/comments/1sk1s7b/video_from_inside_the_icelandair_757_that/) and [outside](https://youtu.be/qpLsr9lr6V8) the plane. I don’t see a runway.

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**Author:** ![LSLGuy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lslguy/32/5813_2.png) [@LSLGuy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LSLGuy)\
**Post date:** [April 15, 2026, 5:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-magiver/937851/387 "2026-04-15T17:21:40Z")

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My comments have been added to the GA thread a couple posts below **Magiver** ’s blather cited by @Spiderman. Thanks @Joey_P for your video cites. I used one there but didn’t attribute it to you so as not to draw attention from that thread to this thread.

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**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\
**Post date:** [April 15, 2026, 10:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-magiver/937851/388 "2026-04-15T22:11:36Z")

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> [@Spiderman](#):
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> IOW, he doesn’t believe a widely reported news story about what a pilot did in his last flight before retiring & the photos are obviously fake

It’s actually a remarkable amount of restraint on his part. He’s just simply wrong in an uncharacteristic way. He made a short, disbelieving comment, and so far hasn’t pushed back against anyone who proved him wrong. This is almost worthy of applause coming from him.

Or he hasn’t had time to get around to insane doubling-down, crackpot theories, and lies about what other people said **yet**.

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**Author:** ![LSLGuy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lslguy/32/5813_2.png) [@LSLGuy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LSLGuy)\
**Post date:** [April 15, 2026, 10:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-magiver/937851/389 "2026-04-15T22:59:57Z")

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Agreed he’s showing restraint.

I have to admit my first reaction to the headline, not the article, was that it was a low pass over an airport with maybe a lazy climbout that scared some airport neighbors. The other possibility being just too unthinkable for a professional outfit like Icelandic.

Then I cheated and read the article I was going to comment on. Oops.

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**Author:** ![Pork\_Rind](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pork_rind/32/111_2.png) [@Pork\_Rind](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Pork_Rind)\
**Post date:** [April 20, 2026, 4:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-magiver/937851/390 "2026-04-20T16:21:31Z")

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Guess who’s an expert in the “dangers” of home-distilled spirits now?

Doesn’t seem to matter how many times people point out that unadulterated spirits don’t contain dangerous amounts of methanol, [let’s go ahead and post a number of irrelevant, unread links that talk about negative outcomes from adulterated booze.](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/home-distilling-ban-ruled-unconstitutional/1004249/44)

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**Author:** ![Joey\_P](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/919ad9/32.png) [@Joey\_P](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Joey_P)\
**Post date:** [April 20, 2026, 4:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-magiver/937851/391 "2026-04-20T16:31:03Z")

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> [@Pork\_Rind](#):
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> Guess who’s an expert in the “dangers” of home-distilled spirits now?

Um, Whack-a-Mole?

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**Author:** ![Pork\_Rind](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pork_rind/32/111_2.png) [@Pork\_Rind](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Pork_Rind)\
**Post date:** [April 20, 2026, 5:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-magiver/937851/392 "2026-04-20T17:02:57Z")

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AW DAMMIT. I attribute this horrific Monday morning mixup to my weekend toilet-made prison hooch binge. Nevermind.

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**Author:** ![EinsteinsHund](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/einsteinshund/32/8400_2.png) [@EinsteinsHund](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EinsteinsHund)\
**Post date:** [April 20, 2026, 5:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-magiver/937851/393 "2026-04-20T17:06:31Z")

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> [@Pork\_Rind](#):
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> weekend toilet-made prison hooch binge.

Best way to get hammered.

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**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\
**Post date:** [April 20, 2026, 6:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-magiver/937851/394 "2026-04-20T18:45:58Z")

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> [@Pork\_Rind](#):
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> I attribute this horrific Monday morning mixup to my weekend toilet-made prison hooch binge.

You know to blame the pruno.

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**Author:** ![LSLGuy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lslguy/32/5813_2.png) [@LSLGuy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LSLGuy)\
**Post date:** [April 20, 2026, 8:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-magiver/937851/395 "2026-04-20T20:35:44Z")

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Wrong thread but right sentiment. **WaM** did run that topic off the rails a lot more than expected.

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**Author:** ![gnoitall](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/bb73d2/32.png) [@gnoitall](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gnoitall)\
**Post date:** [April 20, 2026, 8:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-magiver/937851/396 "2026-04-20T20:47:34Z")

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You problem was not enough industrial alcohol in the mix.

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**Author:** ![wguy123](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wguy123/32/3161_2.png) [@wguy123](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wguy123)\
**Post date:** [April 24, 2026, 1:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-magiver/937851/397 "2026-04-24T01:42:21Z")

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He’s making a jackass of himself in the “United States and Israel are bombing Iran {for current/ongoing events, past/future have specific threads}” thread.

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**Author:** ![Pork\_Rind](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pork_rind/32/111_2.png) [@Pork\_Rind](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Pork_Rind)\
**Post date:** [June 17, 2026, 2:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-magiver/937851/398 "2026-06-17T02:56:16Z")

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@LSLGuy did Magiver really just try to tell you the purpose of the trim wheel?

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**Author:** ![needscoffee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/needscoffee/32/1076_2.png) [@needscoffee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/needscoffee)\
**Post date:** [June 17, 2026, 3:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-magiver/937851/399 "2026-06-17T03:44:24Z")

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> [@Pork\_Rind](#):
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> @LSLGuy did Magiver really just try to tell you the purpose of the trim wheel?&nbsp:

He’s plane-splaining @LSLGuy???

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**Author:** ![LSLGuy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lslguy/32/5813_2.png) [@LSLGuy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LSLGuy)\
**Post date:** [June 17, 2026, 3:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-magiver/937851/400 "2026-06-17T15:07:19Z")

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Not really. He spoke first, I responded.

But then in his response he blew off my point and pulled his usual pilot attitude thing: "If only people would do everything perfectly every time (like I would) then [this accident] would not have happened.

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