# I Pit Magiver **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [March 13, 2021, 9:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-magiver/937851 "2021-03-13T21:55:54Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 22
**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\ **Post date:** [June 18, 2026, 3:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-magiver/937851/421 "2026-06-18T15:29:39Z")
I would think it would drag you backwards as there’s more of it behind than in front, especially as it moved, and could potentially pull at your neck as well. If you could keep it well balanced over your shoulders you might be okay, I suppose. ---
**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\ **Post date:** [June 18, 2026, 3:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-magiver/937851/422 "2026-06-18T15:42:24Z")
> [@Gyrate](#): > > If you could keep it well balanced over your shoulders you might be okay, I suppose. You’d have to figure out a way to keep it in front of you. A cloak will swing behind you when you move. It’s designed to do that, so that it frees your arms to do other things. It’s basically a long coat without sleeves, and without sleeves it has to get out of the way for you to do anything with your arms or hands. The point of this scheme is so that if someone attacks you, you can swing the cloak to deflect the attack, and even swing the cloak at someone to injure them. That requires the weight to be distributed toward the hem, not the shoulders. I remember the argument in the community we belonged to (an online text-based role-playing game) and no amount of logic would dissuade the guy. ---
**Author:** ![Stratocaster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/stratocaster/32/16393_2.png) [@Stratocaster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Stratocaster)\ **Post date:** [June 18, 2026, 3:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-magiver/937851/423 "2026-06-18T15:49:08Z")
I know I’m sold, which is a relief. It’s a pain carrying this harpoon around. ---
**Author:** ![Spiderman](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/spiderman/32/230_2.png) [@Spiderman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spiderman)\ **Post date:** [June 18, 2026, 3:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-magiver/937851/424 "2026-06-18T15:56:42Z")
But at least it’ll [quench your thirst](https://harpoonbrewery.com/) ---
**Author:** ![Moriarty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/moriarty/32/49_2.png) [@Moriarty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Moriarty)\ **Post date:** [June 18, 2026, 11:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-magiver/937851/425 "2026-06-18T23:06:58Z")
> [@Buck\_Godot](#): > > But what if the ape was armed with an umbrella, the most dangerous of weapons? Depends. Do you have a towel? > [@Atamasama](#): > > I used to know a guy (online) who insisted that a cloak with pennies sewn into the lining would be an unbeatable weapon. A big magnet. [![](https://i.ibb.co/kgkQv9q2/IMG-2227.jpg) ](https://i.ibb.co/kgkQv9q2/IMG-2227.jpg) Check. Mate. ---
**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\ **Post date:** [June 18, 2026, 11:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-magiver/937851/426 "2026-06-18T23:11:21Z")
> [@Moriarty](#): > > A big magnet. …That attracts zinc? ---
**Author:** ![Moriarty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/moriarty/32/49_2.png) [@Moriarty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Moriarty)\ **Post date:** [June 18, 2026, 11:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-magiver/937851/427 "2026-06-18T23:16:52Z")
> [@Atamasama](#): > > That attracts zinc? Precisely. ---
**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\ **Post date:** [June 18, 2026, 11:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-magiver/937851/428 "2026-06-18T23:22:05Z")
Then checkmate indeed. ---
**Author:** ![Spiderman](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/spiderman/32/230_2.png) [@Spiderman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spiderman)\ **Post date:** [June 19, 2026, 12:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-magiver/937851/429 "2026-06-19T12:08:41Z")
I don’t know why someone would line a cloak with pennies as a weapon; I mean, personally, I’d use dimes; which would be better! If my arithmatic calculations are correct, it would be 10x better. 🤔 ---
**Author:** ![MrDibble](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mrdibble/32/114_2.png) [@MrDibble](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MrDibble)\ **Post date:** [June 19, 2026, 2:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-magiver/937851/430 "2026-06-19T14:09:00Z")
I was picturing a cloak with sharpened pennies sewn in the lining just at the hem. Like the apocryphal flat caps of the Peaky Blinders gang, only pennies not razor blades. Not that copper holds an edge, mind you. ---
**Author:** ![Great\_Antibob](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e47c2d/32.png) [@Great\_Antibob](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Great_Antibob)\ **Post date:** [June 19, 2026, 2:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-magiver/937851/431 "2026-06-19T14:12:42Z")
That’s why we use zinc in pennies. Genius! ---
**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\ **Post date:** [June 19, 2026, 2:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-magiver/937851/432 "2026-06-19T14:17:30Z")
Not if you fall into water, because then you’ll zinc. ---
**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\ **Post date:** [June 20, 2026, 1:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-magiver/937851/433 "2026-06-20T01:45:32Z")
Go to your room. ---
**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\ **Post date:** [June 20, 2026, 2:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-magiver/937851/434 "2026-06-20T02:57:18Z")
[![](https://media1.giphy.com/media/v1.Y2lkPTZjMDliOTUyYWJ1OGp6bjU0ajhuazl5c2dkeWg0MGdob2YxNTd0MDU2aWN4ZGdjNyZlcD12MV9naWZzX3NlYXJjaCZjdD1n/MYFcKwQ9IY8Sc/200w.gif) ](https://media1.giphy.com/media/v1.Y2lkPTZjMDliOTUyYWJ1OGp6bjU0ajhuazl5c2dkeWg0MGdob2YxNTd0MDU2aWN4ZGdjNyZlcD12MV9naWZzX3NlYXJjaCZjdD1n/MYFcKwQ9IY8Sc/200w.gif) ---
**Author:** ![DesertDog](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/desertdog/32/11503_2.png) [@DesertDog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DesertDog)\ **Post date:** [June 20, 2026, 6:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-magiver/937851/435 "2026-06-20T18:41:46Z")
I am reminded of an episode of _Barney Miller_ where a guy they had in the lock-up claimed to be a time traveler from the near future. Harris asked him if he had any investment advice. “Zinc,” was the answer. He calls presumably a commodities dealer. “Yeah, I’m thinking about buying zinc, How much is it going for? … Thirty-five cents a _pound_? Put me down for a couple tons.” ---
**Author:** ![Jackmannii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jackmannii/32/311_2.png) [@Jackmannii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jackmannii)\ **Post date:** [June 24, 2026, 2:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-magiver/937851/436 "2026-06-24T14:55:38Z")
> [@Atamasama](#): > > I used to know a guy (online) who insisted that a cloak with pennies sewn into the lining would be an unbeatable weapon. Just remember that even if you weigh down the cloak with hundreds of pennies and half-pennies, it may not sink in the Thames. ---
**Author:** ![Mighty\_Mouse](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mighty_mouse/32/7776_2.png) [@Mighty\_Mouse](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mighty_Mouse)\ **Post date:** [July 6, 2026, 12:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-magiver/937851/437 "2026-07-06T00:04:35Z")
In the World Cup thread he’s parading his ignorance about football. And he’s got a lot of it. He seems to think the referees are applying US Criminal Law. ---
**Author:** ![EinsteinsHund](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/einsteinshund/32/8400_2.png) [@EinsteinsHund](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EinsteinsHund)\ **Post date:** [July 6, 2026, 12:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-magiver/937851/438 "2026-07-06T00:42:58Z")
He’s such an idiot in this thread. He stated that he expected every leader of a nation to dabble with FIFA to manipulate the rules in favor of their host nation, like Trump did. And Mussolini in 1934, like @Frodo hinted at. ---
**Author:** ![ASL\_v2.0](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/asl_v2.0/32/3525_2.png) [@ASL\_v2.0](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ASL_v2.0)\ **Post date:** [July 6, 2026, 2:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-magiver/937851/439 "2026-07-06T02:03:35Z")
> [@Mighty\_Mouse](#): > > And he’s got a lot of it. He seems to think the referees are applying US Criminal Law. If you”re referring to this: > There has to be intent in order for it to be reckless …he’s not even doing that right. Recklessness does not require intent in US criminal law. It is a separate mens rea that requires awareness of and action despite a substantial and unjustifiable risk. If intent were required, it wouldn’t be reckless conduct it would be, you know, _intentional_ conduct. ---
**Author:** ![Kimstu](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/ecd19e/32.png) [@Kimstu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kimstu)\ **Post date:** [July 6, 2026, 2:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-magiver/937851/440 "2026-07-06T02:18:39Z")
> [@ASL\_v2.0](#): > > If intent were required, it wouldn’t be reckless conduct it would be, you know, _intentional_ conduct. Yes. By definition, unless you reck not of the consequences, you are not acting recklessly. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-magiver/937851.md?page=21) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-magiver/937851.md?page=23)