# I Pit Magiver **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [March 13, 2021, 9:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-magiver/937851 "2021-03-13T21:55:54Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 8
**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\ **Post date:** [February 25, 2024, 7:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-magiver/937851/141 "2024-02-25T19:10:23Z")
85 is so insanely fast, maybe if you were on a straight freeway and everyone around you was going the same speed, maybe you’d be unaware. But through a **fucking residential neighborhood**?! Magiver is so dumb he shouldn’t be banned from the board, he should be banned from anything electronic or any objects he might accidentally hurt himself or others with. Safety scissors and felt tip pens might be okay. I put that toxic moron on mute long ago thank goodness. ---
**Author:** ![ASL\_v2.0](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/asl_v2.0/32/3525_2.png) [@ASL\_v2.0](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ASL_v2.0)\ **Post date:** [February 25, 2024, 7:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-magiver/937851/142 "2024-02-25T19:49:23Z")
Maybe he really is just a troll? FWIW, I’ve had them on ignore since that Florida condo collapse thread. I might encourage others to do the same. ---
**Author:** ![Buck\_Godot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/buck_godot/32/6573_2.png) [@Buck\_Godot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Buck_Godot)\ **Post date:** [February 25, 2024, 8:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-magiver/937851/143 "2024-02-25T20:22:14Z")
And as usual he is unwilling to give an inch despite the fact that the statement he is defending is luicrous. At least he hasn’t tried to double down with an even more implausible scenario such as “But she was absolutely surrounded by other cars going 40MPH which she thought were parked on the street and so it looked to her that she was actually just going 45?” ---
**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\ **Post date:** [February 25, 2024, 8:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-magiver/937851/144 "2024-02-25T20:40:06Z")
> [@Atamasama](#): > > But through a **fucking residential neighborhood**?! Slight correction; I’m reading it was a “suburban street with pedestrian traffic”. Which is not much different. ---
**Author:** ![carrps](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carrps/32/2957_2.png) [@carrps](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carrps)\ **Post date:** [February 25, 2024, 9:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-magiver/937851/145 "2024-02-25T21:07:19Z")
> [@Atamasama](#): > > 85 is so insanely fast, maybe if you were on a straight freeway and everyone around you was going the same speed, maybe you’d be unaware. I kinda sorta understood what he was saying. When they first opened the 105 fwy to traffic, I was often the only car on it for miles on my work commute. I once looked down at my spedometer thinking maybe I was going 75 mph. I was pushing 90. But that’s not a huge differential, and I was on an empty, new, very well constructed, straight freeway. But I sure knew I was going _fast,_ just not how fast. ---
**Author:** ![Buck\_Godot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/buck_godot/32/6573_2.png) [@Buck\_Godot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Buck_Godot)\ **Post date:** [February 25, 2024, 9:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-magiver/937851/146 "2024-02-25T21:19:04Z")
But relatively speaking, if you were going more than twice as fast as you were supposed to, say 150 mph, you would have noticed. ---
**Author:** ![carrps](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carrps/32/2957_2.png) [@carrps](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carrps)\ **Post date:** [February 25, 2024, 9:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-magiver/937851/147 "2024-02-25T21:23:13Z")
Oh, yeah. If I thought I were going 45, and I was actually going 90 I sure as heck would have noticed. Magiver made a trivially true observation and applied it to a real life situation that it did not fit. At all. ---
**Author:** ![DesertDog](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/desertdog/32/11503_2.png) [@DesertDog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DesertDog)\ **Post date:** [February 26, 2024, 4:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-magiver/937851/148 "2024-02-26T16:52:40Z")
> [@gnoitall](#): > > A significant shortfall of give-a-fuck is required. Self-induced chemical brain damage helps. Yeah, but I don’t think even [this guy](https://lifeisaroad.com/stories/2004/10/29/neighborhoodHazardorWhyTheCopsWontPatrolBriceStreet.html) hit 85mph. ---
**Author:** ![BigT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bigt/32/12044_2.png) [@BigT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BigT)\ **Post date:** [February 27, 2024, 12:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-magiver/937851/149 "2024-02-27T00:56:34Z")
> [@Mighty\_Mouse](#): > > [Socialite Rebecca Grossman convicted two counts of gross vehicular manslaughter - #42 by Magiver](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/socialite-rebecca-grossman-convicted-two-counts-of-gross-vehicular-manslaughter/998035/42) > > He’s decided that driving 85 in a residential street could happen to anyone, not just a sociopath. > > I wonder why. ⁢ I don’t think that’s a fair summary of his post or the point he was making. What he said was that, with the type of car this woman had, driving at 85 mph could feel 35. He didn’t say it was a mistake anyone could make, and in fact not calls her out for not looking at her speedometer. You literally quoted him saying she should hang. I read his initial argument as pretty obvious and fairly normal hyperbole. I actually have more of a problem with the mocking responses, because of course he’s going to feel the need to defend himself, which is going to hijack the thread. I’ve seen Magiver say some stupid, infuriating, or stupidly infuriating things, but I don’t really think this one qualifies. Some posters seem on edge. Though I do thank you for Pitting the guy instead of continuing the hijack. ---
**Author:** ![Mighty\_Mouse](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mighty_mouse/32/7776_2.png) [@Mighty\_Mouse](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mighty_Mouse)\ **Post date:** [February 27, 2024, 1:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-magiver/937851/150 "2024-02-27T01:36:27Z")
Did you read his next dozen or so posts where he completely eviscerates the defense of him you managed to concoct? I linked to his first post, but he just went downhill from there. Maybe I should have said that anyone driving a super car could mistake 85 for 45 in a 35. But this would only be possible if all visual cues were removed. Like driving in a pitch dark tunnel. And it’s not as if she was driving this super car for the first time, and prior to that she was driving a Honda Fit, so she was confused by the engine purring as she broke speed records for surface road driving. ---
**Author:** ![needscoffee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/needscoffee/32/1076_2.png) [@needscoffee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/needscoffee)\ **Post date:** [February 27, 2024, 2:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-magiver/937851/151 "2024-02-27T02:50:47Z")
> [@BigT](#): > > I don’t think that’s a fair summary of his post or the point he was making. What he said was that, with the type of car this woman had, driving at 85 mph could feel 35. He didn’t say it was a mistake anyone could make, and in fact not calls her out for not looking at her speedometer. But then why did he even bring it up? ---
**Author:** ![JackieLikesVariety](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jackielikesvariety/32/296_2.png) [@JackieLikesVariety](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JackieLikesVariety)\ **Post date:** [June 30, 2024, 7:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-magiver/937851/152 "2024-06-30T19:41:46Z")
@Magiver you make me sick. I mean nauseated sick, for real, with your weasel words. ---
**Author:** ![JackieLikesVariety](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jackielikesvariety/32/296_2.png) [@JackieLikesVariety](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JackieLikesVariety)\ **Post date:** [June 30, 2024, 7:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-magiver/937851/153 "2024-06-30T19:58:31Z")
> [@RitterSport](#): > > You’re so spun up in right-wing bullshit. Get better news sources, or at least learn something while you’re reading the threads here. > > Sorry, I’m not good at starting Pit threads, but I’m just fucking done with this asshole trying to spin my thread about Cuomo into some right-wing fantasyland. looks to me like you did a great pitting! thank you! ---
**Author:** ![RitterSport](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rittersport/32/6326_2.png) [@RitterSport](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RitterSport)\ **Post date:** [June 30, 2024, 8:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-magiver/937851/154 "2024-06-30T20:13:05Z")
Aw, shucks. ---
**Author:** ![wolfpup](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wolfpup/32/10618_2.png) [@wolfpup](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wolfpup)\ **Post date:** [June 30, 2024, 9:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-magiver/937851/155 "2024-06-30T21:03:20Z")
I don’t follow Magiver very much, but the one thing that sticks in my mind was when he offered his awesome aviation expertise during discussions of the problems with the Boeing 737 MAX. He explained to all us duffers that there was absolutely nothing wrong with the 737 MAX, absolutely nothing at all. And especially nothing wrong with the MCAS flight control system. The real problem? Those danged incompetent, poorly trained pilots in shithole countries. If they’d known how to fly, there wouldn’t have been a problem. Days later, the 737 MAX was grounded worldwide, a grounding that lasted 21 months, the longest in aviation history. By the time it was over, the MCAS system had been completely redesigned. AFAIK the training of foreign pilots remains unchanged, and there haven’t been any more crashes. Not trying to revive this topic again, just saying that Magiver’s credibility isn’t always stellar. ---
**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\ **Post date:** [June 30, 2024, 9:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-magiver/937851/156 "2024-06-30T21:04:23Z")
> [@wolfpup](#): > > Not trying to revive this topic again, just saying that Magiver’s credibility isn’t always stellar. There’s a reason they are on my very short ignore list. ---
**Author:** ![LSLGuy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lslguy/32/5813_2.png) [@LSLGuy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LSLGuy)\ **Post date:** [June 30, 2024, 9:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-magiver/937851/157 "2024-06-30T21:17:16Z")
> [@wolfpup](#): > > just saying that Magiver’s credibility isn’t always stellar. He’s doctrinaire. As in it seems to mostly be a matter of doctrine meeting aire. Lots and lots of very hot aire. ---
**Author:** ![Mighty\_Mouse](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mighty_mouse/32/7776_2.png) [@Mighty\_Mouse](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mighty_Mouse)\ **Post date:** [August 17, 2024, 7:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-magiver/937851/158 "2024-08-17T19:38:43Z")
He’s white knighting for drug dealers in the Matthew Perry thread. Personal Responsibility Absolutist I guess. ---
**Author:** ![LSLGuy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lslguy/32/5813_2.png) [@LSLGuy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LSLGuy)\ **Post date:** [August 17, 2024, 7:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-magiver/937851/159 "2024-08-17T19:44:43Z")
Except for when it’s time to take personal responsibility for his posts. He often seems oddly bad at that. ---
**Author:** ![Mighty\_Mouse](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mighty_mouse/32/7776_2.png) [@Mighty\_Mouse](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mighty_Mouse)\ **Post date:** [August 17, 2024, 7:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-magiver/937851/160 "2024-08-17T19:47:48Z")
And drops another turd into the workplace rules thread, shitting on Alec Baldwin after a four month gap. I guess he’s just in a mood today. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-magiver/937851.md?page=7) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-magiver/937851.md?page=9)