# I Pit Magiver

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-magiver/937851>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [March 13, 2021, 9:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-magiver/937851 "2021-03-13T21:55:54Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Cervaise](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cervaise/32/16693_2.png) [@Cervaise](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cervaise)\
**Post date:** [August 17, 2024, 7:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-magiver/937851/161 "2024-08-17T19:49:34Z")

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He’s just a spectacular dumbass all around.

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**Author:** ![LSLGuy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lslguy/32/5813_2.png) [@LSLGuy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LSLGuy)\
**Post date:** [August 17, 2024, 10:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-magiver/937851/162 "2024-08-17T22:14:00Z")

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Why can’t it be both?

He’s definitely capable of moods where he’s pretty sensible and those where he’s brain off, mouth open, mind made up.

Maybe like **HBDC** he’s into microdosing. Until he megadoses then Mr. Hyde comes out to play.

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**Author:** ![Pleonast](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pleonast/32/1183_2.png) [@Pleonast](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Pleonast)\
**Post date:** [August 19, 2024, 2:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-magiver/937851/163 "2024-08-19T02:55:59Z")

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It’s entirely your own fault for reading his posts. You need to take responsibility for the words you peruse, and stop blaming the writer.

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**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\
**Post date:** [August 19, 2024, 3:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-magiver/937851/164 "2024-08-19T03:05:06Z")

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That’s why I’ve had him on ignore for a long time. He posts nothing of value. Its like watching a YouTube channel that just shows dogs defecating.

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**Author:** ![LSLGuy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lslguy/32/5813_2.png) [@LSLGuy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LSLGuy)\
**Post date:** [August 19, 2024, 12:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-magiver/937851/165 "2024-08-19T12:33:51Z")

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Now _that_ is a class insult. I’m gonna remember that one.

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**Author:** ![digs](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/digs/32/14889_2.png) [@digs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/digs)\
**Post date:** [August 19, 2024, 2:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-magiver/937851/166 "2024-08-19T14:58:51Z")

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I’m having trouble finding that YouTube channel. Do you have a link?

> [@Pleonast](#):
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> You need to take responsibility for the words you peruse, and stop blaming the writer.

That is excellent advice. While I do blame the writer, this made me realize that I should start using the ignore function. Thank you.

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**Author:** ![ASL\_v2.0](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/asl_v2.0/32/3525_2.png) [@ASL\_v2.0](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ASL_v2.0)\
**Post date:** [August 20, 2024, 1:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-magiver/937851/167 "2024-08-20T13:40:13Z")

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It’s always heartening to see good posters take active steps to improve the quality of their experience on SDMB.

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**Author:** ![DavidNRockies](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/davidnrockies/32/6279_2.png) [@DavidNRockies](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DavidNRockies)\
**Post date:** [December 3, 2024, 4:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-magiver/937851/168 "2024-12-03T16:36:55Z")

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There seems to be a broad blind spot in **Magiver’s** understanding of the true activities that took place in Washington DC on January 6th.

I’d like to offer a few resources to help him fill in those gaps:

> **[Comprehensive Timeline on False Electors Scheme in 2020 Presidential Election](https://www.justsecurity.org/81939/timeline-false-electors/)**
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> The most comprehensive factual record of former President Donald Trump and his close associates coordination of the false electors scheme.

> **[Backgrounder on Alternate Electors Scheme: Federal and State Criminal...](https://www.justsecurity.org/81958/backgrounder-on-alternate-electors-scheme-federal-and-state-criminal-investigations-and-civil-suits/)**
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> Information on federal and state criminal laws that might apply to false alternate electors plan in 2020 election, and ongoing litigation.

> **[A Historical Perspective on Alternate Electors: Lessons from Hayes-Tiden](https://www.justsecurity.org/82233/a-historical-perspective-on-alternate-electors-lessons-from-hayes-tiden/)**
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> Lessons that a historical example of alternate slates of electors holds for wielding criminal law today.

> **[Trump fake electors plot](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trump_fake_electors_plot)**
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> The Trump fake electors plot was a scheme to submit illegitimate certificates of ascertainment to falsely claim U.S. president Donald Trump had won the Electoral College vote in certain states, following Trump's loss in the 2020 United States presidential election. After the results of the 2020 election determined Trump had lost, the scheme was devised by him, his associates, and Republican Party officials in seven states, and it formed a part of Trump and his associates' attempts to overturn

> **[Exclusive: Recordings, emails show how Trump team flew fake elector ballots...](https://www.cnn.com/2023/12/28/politics/recordings-trump-team-fake-elector-ballots/index.html)**
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> Two days before the January 6 insurrection, the Trump campaign’s plan to use fake electors to block President-elect Joe Biden from taking office faced a potentially crippling hiccup: The fake elector certificates from two critical battleground states...

> **[EXPLAINER: How fake electors tried to throw result to Trump](https://apnews.com/article/capitol-siege-joe-biden-presidential-elections-election-2020-electoral-college-311f88768b65f7196f52a4757dc162e4)**
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> State attorneys general and the House committee investigating the Jan. 6, 2021, attack on the Capitol are digging deeper into the role that fake slates of electors played in the desperate effort by then-President Donald Trump to cling to power after...

Hope that helps.

Background:

```
https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ohios-anti-trans-brigade-continues/1010861/107?u=davidnrockies

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And a few quotes that may help TL;DR it:

_““[T]he defendant stands alone in American history for his alleged crimes,” Pearce wrote. “No other president has engaged in conspiracy and obstruction to overturn valid election results and illegitimately retain power.””_

_“Pearce also cited a list of historical elections referenced by Trump’s legal team in their own filings, as Politico noted. These elections, which included those from 1800 and 1960, saw controversies surrounding slates of electors at their core.”_

_“Notably absent from any of these historical episodes, however, is any attempt by any person to use fraud and deceit to obstruct or defeat the governmental function that would result in the certification of the lawful winner of a presidential election,” Pearce concluded. “The existence throughout history of legitimate electoral disputes does not validate the defendant’s corrupt and dishonest actions any more than the existence of legitimate investment offers validates the creation of a criminal Ponzi scheme.”_

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Trump’s ‘alternate electors’ were also NOT ‘duly elected and qualified’ Electors. They were party loyalists and stooges. That’s why so many of them are currently under indictment for Fraud.

I hope that helps.

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**Author:** ![RitterSport](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rittersport/32/6326_2.png) [@RitterSport](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RitterSport)\
**Post date:** [December 3, 2024, 4:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-magiver/937851/169 "2024-12-03T16:40:53Z")

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Good luck getting through that morass of garbage and misinformation that makes up his brain.

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**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\
**Post date:** [December 3, 2024, 6:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-magiver/937851/170 "2024-12-03T18:42:41Z")

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> [@DavidNRockies](#):
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> There seems to be a broad blind spot in **Magiver’s** understanding

You could have just stopped here, and it would still have been an understatement.

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**Author:** ![Dissonance](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/85f322/32.png) [@Dissonance](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dissonance)\
**Post date:** [December 3, 2024, 7:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-magiver/937851/171 "2024-12-03T19:14:47Z")

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Three words: double punching chimpanzees.

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**Author:** ![Cervaise](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cervaise/32/16693_2.png) [@Cervaise](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cervaise)\
**Post date:** [December 3, 2024, 7:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-magiver/937851/172 "2024-12-03T19:27:46Z")

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> [@DavidNRockies](#):
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> I hope that helps.

Some people are ignorant. Some people are stubbornly ignorant.

And some people wallow in their ignorance, revel in it, smear it all over themselves and strike a triumphant pose like a competitive bodybuilder and his baby oil.

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**Author:** ![Great\_Antibob](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e47c2d/32.png) [@Great\_Antibob](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Great_Antibob)\
**Post date:** [December 3, 2024, 7:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-magiver/937851/173 "2024-12-03T19:39:53Z")

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> [@Dissonance](#):
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> Three words: double punching chimpanzees.

You’ve got to cut him a break. He clearly can’t defeat a chimpanzee physically OR mentally.

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**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\
**Post date:** [December 3, 2024, 10:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-magiver/937851/174 "2024-12-03T22:28:09Z")

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I’m pretty sure he understands what happened on that day. He’s just trolling us because he **supports** what happened on that day.

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**Author:** ![Dissonance](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/85f322/32.png) [@Dissonance](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dissonance)\
**Post date:** [December 4, 2024, 3:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-magiver/937851/175 "2024-12-04T03:48:18Z")

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I don’t know. I mean sure, it’s no stretch that he supported what happened that day, but he also is just that stupid, they’re not mutually exclusive. I mean this is the man who argued double punching chimpanzees violating the basic laws of physics and what was it exactly with Benghazi again, parachuting special forces on armed motorcycles Chuck Norris style as a plausible response?

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**Author:** ![crowmanyclouds](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/crowmanyclouds/32/19884_2.png) [@crowmanyclouds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/crowmanyclouds)\
**Post date:** [December 4, 2024, 3:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-magiver/937851/176 "2024-12-04T03:59:32Z")

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Air bombing both Notre Dame with water and NCY with hand sanitizer.

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**Author:** ![Buck\_Godot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/buck_godot/32/6573_2.png) [@Buck\_Godot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Buck_Godot)\
**Post date:** [December 4, 2024, 5:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-magiver/937851/177 "2024-12-04T05:45:05Z")

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Not to mention when you are in a car being confronted by a man with an umbrella, the safest thing to do to leave the car and engage in hand to hand combat. Driving away put you at risk of being shot in case he has a concealed gun.

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**Author:** ![Mighty\_Mouse](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mighty_mouse/32/7776_2.png) [@Mighty\_Mouse](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mighty_Mouse)\
**Post date:** [December 4, 2024, 1:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-magiver/937851/178 "2024-12-04T13:11:48Z")

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Are you guys making this up?

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**Author:** ![TokyoBayer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tokyobayer/32/13989_2.png) [@TokyoBayer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TokyoBayer)\
**Post date:** [December 4, 2024, 1:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-magiver/937851/179 "2024-12-04T13:36:14Z")

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> [@Buck\_Godot](#):
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> Driving away put you at risk of being shot in case he has a concealed gun.

It happened to me last week. Twice.

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**Author:** ![Great\_Antibob](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e47c2d/32.png) [@Great\_Antibob](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Great_Antibob)\
**Post date:** [December 4, 2024, 2:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-magiver/937851/180 "2024-12-04T14:22:34Z")

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> [@Mighty\_Mouse](#):
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> Are you guys making this up?

Unfortunately, no.

I don’t think I’ll ever forget the chimpanzee double punch post (and subsequent defense of said post) from 14 years back (broken link from here: [https://boards.straightdope.com/t/](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/) could-you-knock-out-an-enraged-chimp/545830/24) or the motorcycle spec-ops drop to save Benghazi from Hillary Clinton nonsense ([link to Pit thread](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/magiver-you-are-being-stupendously-but-unsurprisingly-stupid-in-the-benghazi-thread/) from 10 years back, which links to actual thread).

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