# I pit Martin Hyde (a different Martin Hyde)

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-martin-hyde-a-different-martin-hyde/970024>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [August 21, 2022, 6:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-martin-hyde-a-different-martin-hyde/970024 "2022-08-21T06:23:21Z")\
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**Author:** ![SanVito](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sanvito/32/2805_2.png) [@SanVito](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SanVito)\
**Post date:** [August 24, 2022, 10:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-martin-hyde-a-different-martin-hyde/970024/41 "2022-08-24T10:28:34Z")

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> [@Wendell\_Wagner](#):
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> The article also says that he grew up in the Crystal Palace neighborhood of London. I think that it’s unlikely that a person growing up there would speak with an upper-class accent, but I’m not sure

There is nothing remotely upper or even middle class about his accent, he’s a working class boy from Sarf London. He’s even got a broken nose, for God’s sake, no doubt from growing up having punch ups in rough urban pubs on a Friday night. Hilarious that anyone would hear his accent and think ‘British toff’. He’s Central Casting for roles in the likes of Lock Stock and Two Smoking Barrels.

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**Author:** ![SanVito](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sanvito/32/2805_2.png) [@SanVito](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SanVito)\
**Post date:** [August 24, 2022, 10:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-martin-hyde-a-different-martin-hyde/970024/42 "2022-08-24T10:30:21Z")

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> [@Morgyn](#):
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> It sounds like RP to me. (Received Pronunciation, which was a thing for along time. Basically teaching the kids to speak the same way, like a BBC broadcaster. If I remember correctly.)

Nowhere close. He’s a working class London thug

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**Author:** ![Princhester](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/3e96dc/32.png) [@Princhester](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Princhester)\
**Post date:** [August 24, 2022, 10:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-martin-hyde-a-different-martin-hyde/970024/43 "2022-08-24T10:34:58Z")

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Spit take 😃

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**Post date:** [August 24, 2022, 10:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-martin-hyde-a-different-martin-hyde/970024/44 "2022-08-24T10:44:00Z")

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> [@Atamasama](#):
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> Here it is if anyone wants to see it.

Hah, even as an Australian I can tell that going by his accent, if you put a porkpie hat on him you could call him Arfur Daly.

What Americans probably don’t understand is that truly upper class English trend towards being tremendously polite. They would be more likely to say “oh dear, that is unfortunate” when caught speeding than pull the “do you know ooh I am?” nonsense.

English upper class have their negative traits (hoo boy do they) but being rude is not generally one of them. Which is not to say some aren’t rude, but only to say that it is not IME a common trait.

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**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\
**Post date:** [August 24, 2022, 3:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-martin-hyde-a-different-martin-hyde/970024/45 "2022-08-24T15:23:26Z")

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I’m no expert since I have never been to the UK, let alone being able to pinpoint what class an accent puts someone at. But having watched many BBC shows or films with British folks in them, his voice sounds like a thug character or someone from the streets. A British gangster type. Or a bloke who’d yell at a football match while having one too many at a pub and getting into a fight about it.

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**Author:** ![Loach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/loach/32/350_2.png) [@Loach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Loach)\
**Post date:** [August 24, 2022, 3:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-martin-hyde-a-different-martin-hyde/970024/46 "2022-08-24T15:29:05Z")

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> [@Wendell\_Wagner](#):
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> You might want to look at this YouTube video about a vaguely similar situation:
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> [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wxr9Ia\_VhFE](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wxr9Ia_VhFE)

There is this douche too. He became famous by being a gym owner who defied Covid protocols. Then he ran for Congress. He was arrested for DUI which is bad enough but he did time for killing someone while drunk in the past.

> **[‘You know I’m a congressional candidate,’ N.J. gym owner tells cops after DWI...](https://www.nj.com/camden/2022/04/you-know-im-a-congressional-candidate-nj-gym-owner-tells-cops-after-dwi-arrest-video-shows.html?outputType=amp)**
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> Ian Smith, who is running for the Republican nomination for Congress in New Jersey’s 3rd District, told police he had a double margarita on the night he was pulled over

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**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\
**Post date:** [August 24, 2022, 3:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-martin-hyde-a-different-martin-hyde/970024/47 "2022-08-24T15:43:07Z")

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> [@Loach](#):
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> There is this douche too. He became famous by being a gym owner who defied Covid protocols.

He’s no longer a gym owner, they want nothing to do with him.

> **[Ian Smith No Longer Affiliated with Gym Where He Defied Shutdown; Business...](https://pinebarrenstribune.com/ian-smith-no-longer-affiliated-with-gym-where-he-defied-shutdown-business-p4728-165.htm)**
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> In a return call to one from this newspaper, Smith confirmed that he was indeed no longer affiliated with either the gym or his business partner.

> [@Loach](#):
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> Then he ran for Congress.

He lost big time in the primary and is now trying to run as a Libertarian.

> **[Ian Smith leaves GOP - New Jersey Globe](https://newjerseyglobe.com/congress/ian-smith-leaves-gop/)**
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> Ian Smith, who lost the Republican primary for Congress in New Jersey’s 3rd two weeks ago, has joined the Libertarian Party. “The change we are looking

He just keeps losing at everything.

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**Post date:** [August 24, 2022, 4:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-martin-hyde-a-different-martin-hyde/970024/48 "2022-08-24T16:42:31Z")

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[![](https://img.youtube.com/vi/hBC-1UzkIW0/maxresdefault.jpg "Middlesbrough vs Reading 10/2/18 - "Who the fucking hell are you?"") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hBC-1UzkIW0)

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**Author:** ![Darryl\_Lict](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/7cd45c/32.png) [@Darryl\_Lict](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Darryl_Lict)\
**Post date:** [August 25, 2022, 6:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-martin-hyde-a-different-martin-hyde/970024/49 "2022-08-25T06:59:20Z")

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Heh, I was wondering if this guy was our Martin Hyde, but this guy is a huge asshole even by Florida standards. Not as bad as DeSantis though.

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**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\
**Post date:** [August 25, 2022, 12:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-martin-hyde-a-different-martin-hyde/970024/50 "2022-08-25T12:15:06Z")

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> [@Darryl\_Lict](#):
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> Not as bad as DeSantis though.

Maybe he could use that as his campaign slogan next time.

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**Post date:** [August 25, 2022, 3:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-martin-hyde-a-different-martin-hyde/970024/51 "2022-08-25T15:22:05Z")

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> [@Atamasama](#):
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> > [@Loach](#):
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> > There is this douche too. He became famous by being a gym owner who defied Covid protocols.
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> He’s no longer a gym owner, they want nothing to do with him.
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> [Ian Smith No Longer Affiliated with Gym Where He Defied Shutdown; Business Partner Blames Candidate’s DWI Arrest for Patronage Drop](https://pinebarrenstribune.com/ian-smith-no-longer-affiliated-with-gym-where-he-defied-shutdown-business-p4728-165.htm)
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> > [@Loach](#):
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> > Then he ran for Congress.
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> He lost big time in the primary and is now trying to run as a Libertarian.
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> [Ian Smith leaves GOP - New Jersey Globe](https://newjerseyglobe.com/congress/ian-smith-leaves-gop)
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> He just keeps losing at everything.

Yeah I saw all that. He might have had a chance if it wasn’t for the 2nd DUI. He had a lot of MAGA support in the beginning but lost a lot of it after the video came out.

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**Post date:** [August 25, 2022, 3:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-martin-hyde-a-different-martin-hyde/970024/52 "2022-08-25T15:34:32Z")

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> [@Darryl\_Lict](#):
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> Heh, I was wondering if this guy was our Martin Hyde, but this guy is a huge asshole even by Florida standards.

Do we really know for certain it’s not?

I’ve had “our” Martin Hyde on ignore for quite some time for general assholery. This behavior seems to be on-brand.

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**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\
**Post date:** [August 25, 2022, 3:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-martin-hyde-a-different-martin-hyde/970024/53 "2022-08-25T15:45:49Z")

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> [@DCnDC](#):
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> Do we really know for certain it’s not?

I think nothing about “our” Martin was real, including his name.

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**Author:** ![foolsguinea](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/foolsguinea/32/14751_2.png) [@foolsguinea](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/foolsguinea)\
**Post date:** [August 26, 2022, 3:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-martin-hyde-a-different-martin-hyde/970024/54 "2022-08-26T03:46:54Z")

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That airport story is sweet. That woman is a legend.

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**Author:** ![foolsguinea](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/foolsguinea/32/14751_2.png) [@foolsguinea](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/foolsguinea)\
**Post date:** [August 26, 2022, 3:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-martin-hyde-a-different-martin-hyde/970024/55 "2022-08-26T03:50:41Z")

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I stand corrected.

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