# I Pit Martin Hyde **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [June 16, 2021, 4:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-martin-hyde/944407 "2021-06-16T16:18:26Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 5
**Author:** ![MrDibble](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mrdibble/32/114_2.png) [@MrDibble](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MrDibble)\ **Post date:** [June 18, 2021, 9:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-martin-hyde/944407/81 "2021-06-18T21:39:42Z")
> [@RitterSport](#): > > But, for the past few weeks, I’ve appreciated his contributions. What, like this one? > [@How is genocide defined, with an emphasis on cultural genocide?](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-is-genocide-defined-with-an-emphasis-on-cultural-genocide/944198/236): > > I am not saying MrDibble is a rapist, I am saying he is a racist and a Nazi enabler. I am also concurrently saying that due to the rape epidemic in South Africa, he is statistically more likely than the average board member to be a rapist. ---
**Author:** ![Martin\_Hyde](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/47e85d/32.png) [@Martin\_Hyde](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Martin_Hyde)\ **Post date:** [June 18, 2021, 9:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-martin-hyde/944407/82 "2021-06-18T21:42:32Z")
Note that was immediately after MrDibble called me a Nazi. Insults beget insults, if you don’t like it cry to your momma. ---
**Author:** ![MrDibble](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mrdibble/32/114_2.png) [@MrDibble](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MrDibble)\ **Post date:** [June 18, 2021, 9:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-martin-hyde/944407/83 "2021-06-18T21:44:38Z")
> [@Martin\_Hyde](#): > > Note that was immediately after MrDibble called me a Nazi. Liar. I did no such thing. Why would you lie about something so trivially easy to disprove? > [@Martin\_Hyde](#): > > Insults beget insults, if you don’t like it cry to your momma. I _already_ insulted you right back, toothless yokel. I wasn’t linking that to **RitterSport** for _sympathy_, you simpleton. ---
**Author:** ![k9bfriender](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/k9bfriender/32/3283_2.png) [@k9bfriender](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/k9bfriender)\ **Post date:** [June 18, 2021, 9:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-martin-hyde/944407/84 "2021-06-18T21:45:06Z")
> [@Martin\_Hyde](#): > > Insults beget insults, if you don’t like it cry to your momma. This is a lesson that you could stand to learn. For instance, I did not insult you at all in that thread until you went all foaming mouth and laid into me for not understanding why you would respond to another poster’s comments while addressing me. Then you act all upset that I return insults in kind. Hateful and hypocritical. ---
**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\ **Post date:** [June 18, 2021, 9:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-martin-hyde/944407/85 "2021-06-18T21:58:57Z")
You have to understand that he did not DENY that indigenous North Americans suffered cultural genocide. He merely thinks that we need to finish the job and show them the “right “ way to live their lives. And if you disagree, you are a Nazi. What a fuckwit. ---
**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\ **Post date:** [June 18, 2021, 11:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-martin-hyde/944407/86 "2021-06-18T23:05:14Z")
> [@k9bfriender](#): > > But he also has a temper, assumes the worst of other posters, and seems looking for a fight, rather than a discussion. What’s funny is that MrDibble can be like that too. He has jumped down my throat a couple of times for sure when I wasn’t saying anything inflammatory. But I also really like his contributions here on the board and he’s a net asset for sure in my eye. I don’t know Martin\_Hyde that well so I can’t comment on him in general, though some quotes made here and elsewhere show that… > [@k9bfriender](#): > > He has made no secret that he hates most of the people on this board, and he has made no effort in hiding that contempt in his posting either. …is not wrong. ☹ ---
**Author:** ![Pleonast](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pleonast/32/1183_2.png) [@Pleonast](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Pleonast)\ **Post date:** [June 18, 2021, 11:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-martin-hyde/944407/87 "2021-06-18T23:09:29Z")
> [@Atamasama](#): > > What’s funny is that MrDibble can be like that too. He has jumped down my throat a couple of times for sure when I wasn’t saying anything inflammatory. But I also really like his contributions here on the board and he’s a net asset for sure in my eye. The difference is one poster is carrying water for immorality and one is not. Right and wrong _matter_. ---
**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\ **Post date:** [June 18, 2021, 11:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-martin-hyde/944407/88 "2021-06-18T23:11:41Z")
> [@Pleonast](#): > > Right and wrong _matter_ . Of course they do. I was just commenting on general posting style (in response to a post talking about the same thing) as opposed to political leanings or whatever they are advocating (either poster). ---
**Author:** ![Pleonast](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pleonast/32/1183_2.png) [@Pleonast](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Pleonast)\ **Post date:** [June 18, 2021, 11:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-martin-hyde/944407/89 "2021-06-18T23:14:45Z")
> [@Atamasama](#): > > Of course they do. I was just commenting on general posting style (in response to a post talking about the same thing) as opposed to political leanings or whatever they are advocating (either poster).   Sorry, I meant to make clear I was agreeing with you. The SDMB has high tolerance for acerbic posters who are right or at least well meaning. Not so much when they’re wrong or excusing it. ---
**Author:** ![Tamerlane](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tamerlane/32/7602_2.png) [@Tamerlane](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tamerlane)\ **Post date:** [June 19, 2021, 5:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-martin-hyde/944407/90 "2021-06-19T05:28:17Z")
> [@RitterSport](#): > > I thought he was more of a right winger than he seems to be lately – maybe the recent insanity of the Republican Party was too much for him. He made a lengthy post [here](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/could-trump-actually-run-and-win-in-2024/940736/135) about his changing views on the Republican party and his break from them as a still-conservative-but-never-Trumper. I thought it was fairly well said. ---
**Author:** ![MrDibble](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mrdibble/32/114_2.png) [@MrDibble](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MrDibble)\ **Post date:** [June 19, 2021, 7:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-martin-hyde/944407/91 "2021-06-19T07:04:02Z")
> [@Atamasama](#): > > He has jumped down my throat a couple of times for sure when I wasn’t saying anything inflammatory. Was it in a Pit thread? I tend not to moderate my already low tolerance any number of fallacies or pointless debate tactics, in the Pit. **Not** saying that’s what you did, but I _am_ way more of a hostile debater in the Pit, even in the Pit threads others seem to think are “GD-style” Also, as any race thread will show you, “inflammatory” is in the eye of the beholder. Some people seem to think, for instance, that standing up for racists, transphobes or misogynists just to make a rhetorical point, is not inherently bad. In the Pit, I’m free to disabuse them of that stupid notion. Again, **not** saying that’s what **you** did, just pointing out where I come from when I post in the Pit. ---
**Author:** ![MrDibble](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mrdibble/32/114_2.png) [@MrDibble](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MrDibble)\ **Post date:** [June 19, 2021, 11:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-martin-hyde/944407/92 "2021-06-19T11:05:06Z")
I see the whiny little genocide denialist has [run crying like a little baby to ATMB](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/revisiting-the-bbq-pit-boon-or-bane/944413/262) to repeat his lie that I called him a Nazi. ---
**Author:** ![Martin\_Hyde](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/47e85d/32.png) [@Martin\_Hyde](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Martin_Hyde)\ **Post date:** [June 19, 2021, 5:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-martin-hyde/944407/93 "2021-06-19T17:59:31Z")
Calling your low information, low intelligence posting style in which you rage out everytime you are wrong and attempt to scare people by slandering them with the racist title is no more “debate” than a bum fight in the street. ---
**Author:** ![MrDibble](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mrdibble/32/114_2.png) [@MrDibble](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MrDibble)\ **Post date:** [June 19, 2021, 6:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-martin-hyde/944407/94 "2021-06-19T18:03:39Z")
And yet, _still_ no link to me calling you a Nazi… What a pathetic little whiny lying baby-man you are. ---
**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\ **Post date:** [June 19, 2021, 6:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-martin-hyde/944407/95 "2021-06-19T18:53:53Z")
I remember when Martin [condemned every single black person in America](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-wasnt-the-police-officer-who-killed-eric-garner-indicted/706271/322) for the [flaws of the great minority](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-wasnt-the-police-officer-who-killed-eric-garner-indicted/706271/555) (note that I linked to two posts in the same thread) – and did it knowingly and purposefully. But I think he’s changed a lot since then. Hopefully he doesn’t feel that way any more. ---
**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\ **Post date:** [June 19, 2021, 6:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-martin-hyde/944407/96 "2021-06-19T18:55:20Z")
He appears to have had a career where people were required to Respect His Authority and Defer To His Wisdom. Because this was the nature of the hierarchy. And when he interacts in the real world, the fact that some do not automatically agree with him is jarring. So he therefore simply goes to the default of thinking that these people who do not Respect His Authority must be fools and idiots and merely worthy of derision and insults. ---
**Author:** ![MrDibble](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mrdibble/32/114_2.png) [@MrDibble](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MrDibble)\ **Post date:** [June 19, 2021, 6:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-martin-hyde/944407/97 "2021-06-19T18:58:21Z")
What in this thread, or any of his posting this week, leads you to think he’s really changed? I swear, **iiandyiiii** , sometimes you’re so Pollyanna about some clearly racist motherfuckers, it saddens me a little. ---
**Author:** ![Martin\_Hyde](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/47e85d/32.png) [@Martin\_Hyde](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Martin_Hyde)\ **Post date:** [June 19, 2021, 7:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-martin-hyde/944407/98 "2021-06-19T19:03:35Z")
> [@iiandyiiii](#): > > I remember when Martin [condemned every single black person in America](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-wasnt-the-police-officer-who-killed-eric-garner-indicted/706271/322) for the [flaws of the great minority](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-wasnt-the-police-officer-who-killed-eric-garner-indicted/706271/555) (note that I linked to two posts in the same thread) – and did it knowingly and purposefully. > > But I think he’s changed a lot since then. Hopefully he doesn’t feel that way any more. I’m not going to relitigate a thread from 7 years ago, I stand by everything I said in the thread you linked and it was all fully explored in that thread and does not need re-explored here. ---
**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\ **Post date:** [June 19, 2021, 7:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-martin-hyde/944407/99 "2021-06-19T19:04:13Z")
I am the eternal optimist. Maybe it’s a privilege. In any case, I haven’t followed much of his very latest posts (I usually gloss over the standard Pit flames unless I’m directly involved) – it’s his very large turn against the Republican party, by my memory anyway, that give me some hope he’s changed. EDIT: I guess I was wrong. Hyde, apparently you’re (still) a racist, and fuck you for standing by placing that blame and burden on millions of strangers you’ve never met, including some of the finest humans in the world. ---
**Author:** ![Martin\_Hyde](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/47e85d/32.png) [@Martin\_Hyde](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Martin_Hyde)\ **Post date:** [June 19, 2021, 7:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-martin-hyde/944407/100 "2021-06-19T19:05:44Z")
> [@Euphonious\_Polemic](#): > > He appears to have had a career where people were required to Respect His Authority and Defer To His Wisdom. Because this was the nature of the hierarchy. > > And when he interacts in the real world, the fact that some do not automatically agree with him is jarring. So he therefore simply goes to the default of thinking that these people who do not Respect His Authority must be fools and idiots and merely worthy of derision and insults. You seem to have a real hard on for the fact I was a desk jockey for a long time. I guess in this den of imbeciles, emotionally damaged rejects and mentally ill, the fact I held a job from the ages of 21 to 52 or so is something that is notable and weird to you, even moreso the fact it was a job that involved a lot of bureaucratic red tape in part of day to day life. I.e. the whole point I mentioned it–that I have no problem abiding by the (sometimes ever-shifting) rules of this message board, so whoever it even was who speculated I’d get banned or whatever from the boards is sadly mistaken. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-martin-hyde/944407.md?page=4) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-martin-hyde/944407.md?page=6)