# I Pit Martin Hyde **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [June 16, 2021, 4:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-martin-hyde/944407 "2021-06-16T16:18:26Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 9
**Author:** ![scudsucker](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/scudsucker/32/14101_2.png) [@scudsucker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/scudsucker)\ **Post date:** [June 20, 2021, 8:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-martin-hyde/944407/161 "2021-06-20T20:17:31Z")
Hear, hear. I endorse this. ---
**Author:** ![BippityBoppityBoo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bippityboppityboo/32/5745_2.png) [@BippityBoppityBoo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BippityBoppityBoo)\ **Post date:** [June 20, 2021, 8:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-martin-hyde/944407/162 "2021-06-20T20:22:15Z")
> [@Martin\_Hyde](#): > > I hope you get help–you need it. Yes, @Martin_Hyde, you definitely need help. Not forthcoming from me. ---
**Author:** ![Sunny\_Daze](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sunny_daze/32/438_2.png) [@Sunny\_Daze](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sunny_Daze)\ **Post date:** [June 20, 2021, 8:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-martin-hyde/944407/163 "2021-06-20T20:36:08Z")
> [@Martin\_Hyde](#): > > I’m not a psychologist but you have lots of issues. Speaking of compensating… ---
**Author:** ![MrDibble](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mrdibble/32/114_2.png) [@MrDibble](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MrDibble)\ **Post date:** [June 20, 2021, 9:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-martin-hyde/944407/164 "2021-06-20T21:07:21Z")
Ha, ha. Oh, this is rich… > [@Martin\_Hyde](#): > > Casually linking someone’s statements, barring any logical or factual justification, to Nazi death squads, is reprehensible behavior. That _does_ sound bad. Good think that’s not what I did. Nor was that an instance where I “directly called [you] a Nazi”, you dimwitted motherfucker. So still just a liar on that front. That was me comparing one of your genocide _denial_ techniques to Holocaust _denial_ techniques. The logical and factual justification is self-evident. Your reading comprehension really needs work. Well, so does the rest of your … everything. > [@Martin\_Hyde](#): > > you may have festering hatred in your heart for white people What, like my own mother, half-siblings, wife and best friends? I must hide it _very_ well, then. ---
**Author:** ![thorny\_locust](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thorny_locust/32/431_2.png) [@thorny\_locust](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/thorny_locust)\ **Post date:** [June 20, 2021, 10:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-martin-hyde/944407/165 "2021-06-20T22:17:41Z")
> [@Martin\_Hyde](#): > > I mean this isn’t a genuine question as you know exactly where this occurred. But for anyone else: > > > [@](#): > > > > “Lots of people were shot in WWII, stop going on and on about Einsatzgruppen” > > Casually linking someone’s statements, barring any logical or factual justification, to Nazi death squads, is reprehensible behavior. That is a comparison clearly intended to try to point out to you that what you’ve been saying is reprehensible, by comparing it to something that @MrDibble is clearly assuming you will understand is reprehensible. The comparison wouldn’t work at all if MrDibble were calling you a Nazi. It works only because MrDibble’s assuming that you’re not a Nazi. > [@Martin\_Hyde](#): > > I know something isn’t right, when you can’t discuss things rationally or intelligently, which is a pervasive problem of yours The irony, it burns. ---
**Author:** ![Martin\_Hyde](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/47e85d/32.png) [@Martin\_Hyde](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Martin_Hyde)\ **Post date:** [June 20, 2021, 10:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-martin-hyde/944407/166 "2021-06-20T22:32:32Z")
> [@thorny\_locust](#): > > The irony, it burns. I find that a very high % of posts like this on the SDMB are posted by imbeciles who think something ironical is happening, when actually nothing of the sort has occurred. The delusions that lead to one believing in far leftism also cloud one’s judgement about much of reality, and lead one to believe one is “winning” internet arguments when in fact you are just flailing about saying nothing, contradiction nothing, and proving no points. ---
**Author:** ![Martin\_Hyde](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/47e85d/32.png) [@Martin\_Hyde](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Martin_Hyde)\ **Post date:** [June 20, 2021, 10:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-martin-hyde/944407/167 "2021-06-20T22:33:53Z")
> [@MrDibble](#): > > What, like my own mother, half-siblings, wife and best friends? I must hide it _very_ well, then. I’m aware you have mixed ethnicity, but you do not identify as white based on anything you have ever posted here. In fact I would say psychologically most of your identity is actually tied up in being “anti-white.” Which again, ties into my belief that you need serious therapy and help to work through a lot of emotional issues you have. Maybe some Mommy issues too. ---
**Author:** ![Tfletch1](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tfletch1/32/5340_2.png) [@Tfletch1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tfletch1)\ **Post date:** [June 20, 2021, 10:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-martin-hyde/944407/168 "2021-06-20T22:40:24Z")
> [@Martin\_Hyde](#): > > Hey, I notice in this thread: > > > [@](#): > > > > nellie I’m sorry things have been so hard. I’ve been thinking about therapy myself. I might try Talkspace (I mean the one that the Olympic swimmer talks about on tv). Those who use (or have or can?), get yourself over to the Book… I feel like inserting an “Alien” joke here. There’s only one way to be sure… strong text Happy Harriet Day! Anyone with any suggestions for air conditioning a garage? My dad is over 80 and is building a model train layout in the garage. It’s not air conditioned n… > > You were thinking of getting therapy–you probably should, you obviously have emotional/mental problems. Besides the bullshit he was spewing in at least two threads discussing genocide, he looks someone up to make a dig at their health. This useless piece of shit is going on ignore. ---
**Author:** ![Miller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/miller/32/481_2.png) [@Miller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Miller)\ **Post date:** [June 20, 2021, 11:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-martin-hyde/944407/169 "2021-06-20T23:06:37Z")
> [@Martin\_Hyde](#): > > I’m not sure if it’s anger because you’re sad that you live in one of the worst countries on earth and that gives you an inferiority complex when talking with Americans. [Moderating] This is the third time I’ve moderated you for insulting someone based on their nationality. It’s also the mildest of the three, but I meant what I said about what happens when you play games with crossing the line. This is a warning for ignoring moderator instructions. [/Moderating] ---
**Author:** ![Skywatcher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skywatcher/32/254_2.png) [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)\ **Post date:** [June 20, 2021, 11:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-martin-hyde/944407/170 "2021-06-20T23:16:04Z")
Play stupid games… ---
**Author:** ![crowmanyclouds](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/crowmanyclouds/32/19884_2.png) [@crowmanyclouds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/crowmanyclouds)\ **Post date:** [June 20, 2021, 11:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-martin-hyde/944407/171 "2021-06-20T23:19:59Z")
This is why we need to close the Pit. If Martin is called on his posts in other forums than he’ll be forced to defend himself from all of you commie nutbag SJWs and that will require him to attack you in ways that will earn him warnings and that’s just not fair. ---
**Author:** ![Martin\_Hyde](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/47e85d/32.png) [@Martin\_Hyde](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Martin_Hyde)\ **Post date:** [June 21, 2021, 12:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-martin-hyde/944407/172 "2021-06-21T00:25:13Z")
I’m losing a lot of sleep over this one. ---
**Author:** ![Martin\_Hyde](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/47e85d/32.png) [@Martin\_Hyde](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Martin_Hyde)\ **Post date:** [June 21, 2021, 2:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-martin-hyde/944407/173 "2021-06-21T02:05:45Z")
Note that as per this thread ([Unclear Moderation + New Rule Protecting Nationality - #6 by Miller](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/unclear-moderation-new-rule-protecting-nationality/944724/6)) I will be unable to continue to participate in this discussion due to mod commentary. You all enjoy yourselves, I doubt my responses would do any more than your stupid and infantile comments could do on their own to show your lack of intellect and critical thinking ability. ---
**Author:** ![Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/left_hand_of_dorkness/32/7156_2.png) [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Left_Hand_of_Dorkness)\ **Post date:** [June 21, 2021, 2:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-martin-hyde/944407/174 "2021-06-21T02:16:11Z")
> [@Martin\_Hyde](#): > > Note that as per this thread ([Unclear Moderation + New Rule Protecting Nationality - #6 by Miller](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/unclear-moderation-new-rule-protecting-nationality/944724/6)) I will be unable to continue to participate in this discussion due to mod commentary If that works for you, that works for me. Thanks, Miller! ---
**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\ **Post date:** [June 21, 2021, 2:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-martin-hyde/944407/175 "2021-06-21T02:16:56Z")
Unable to continue because you are not allowed to insult someone based on their race. Sounds like you’ve staked out your moral ground here. Good luck to you. ---
**Author:** ![Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/left_hand_of_dorkness/32/7156_2.png) [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Left_Hand_of_Dorkness)\ **Post date:** [June 21, 2021, 2:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-martin-hyde/944407/176 "2021-06-21T02:32:06Z")
> [@Euphonious\_Polemic](#): > > Unable to continue because you are not allowed to insult someone based on their race. Not exactly–he’s unable to continue because he’s a petulant little dipshit who has a serious case of Dunning Kruger. When he gets called on the carpet, it’s everyone’s fault but his own, and this is his version of passive resistance against the tyranny of getting called on his shit. oh wait am I a low information poster now too? o no ---
**Author:** ![GIGObuster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gigobuster/32/421_2.png) [@GIGObuster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GIGObuster)\ **Post date:** [June 21, 2021, 2:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-martin-hyde/944407/177 "2021-06-21T02:38:37Z")
I can only say that I did call it about his stupid refuge in rules and regulations that he was pulling out of his ass. It would be OK to mention some etiquette, even in the pit; but it is really dumb to demand others to follow rules that are not in the pit while insulting other’s mental condition, ethnicity, race or ability to google. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Great\_Antibob](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e47c2d/32.png) [@Great\_Antibob](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Great_Antibob)\ **Post date:** [June 21, 2021, 3:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-martin-hyde/944407/178 "2021-06-21T03:43:49Z")
Got to admit, I used to think he was a reasonable poster, whatever political preferences he had, but this thread (and the associated threads that led to it) has really opened my eyes. There are posters who respect evidence and reason, even when those don’t always fit their worldview, and then there are posters who have to be right, evidence and reason be damned. I didn’t realize until recently this was a case of the latter. ---
**Author:** ![GIGObuster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gigobuster/32/421_2.png) [@GIGObuster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GIGObuster)\ **Post date:** [June 21, 2021, 4:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-martin-hyde/944407/179 "2021-06-21T04:57:26Z")
I did notice back in 2014 that he jumped to disparage me and the way I posted cites in climate change discussions, nothing has changed. 🙂 [Wolfpup replying to Martin Hyde here] > [@Big Oil are not Climate Change Denialists](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/big-oil-are-not-climate-change-denialists/692303/69): > > A few things. First I must say that in my view your criticism of GIGO is both inappropriate and incorrect. He does offer substantial views of his own, but always provides citations to back them up, a process that takes a lot of work and that many, including myself, often don’t bother with. I’m also finding it hard to follow the logic of the quoted paragraph. I, for one, was certainly very much aware the Exxon and other oil companies were making conciliatory-sounding statements on their we… But seriously, Martin Hyde also showed a very common trait seen on many conservatives that looked normal and then are not able to stop following the misleading propaganda they consume that turns more unhinged as time goes by. As noted in the threads that led to this pitting, he makes a mountain of the idea that we are calling him a Nazi or a holocaust denier, that is not the case, we are noticing that he is mostly a jerk. And so far he is in the territory of obfuscating what real reprehensible people did in the past. Sure, there is no direct defense of the evil doers, but it is a tactic of guys that would like to seed doubts about those bad people needing to face justice, or their victims get some reparations. And in the past I did notice several posters that started first as climate change lukewarmers or deniers. Showing later as nativists, and then obfuscating efforts to seek justice for the victims and then showed up as complete fascists and then get banned, not much for the racist bit, but mostly because the jerk part becomes more prominent. As I pointed to another long time conservative poster that is falling into the same rabbit hole in another thread, **Martin** is not in the last phases of that process but he is getting closer. It is time for him though to get other sources of information and stop being a jerk before it is really too late. ---
**Author:** ![MrDibble](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mrdibble/32/114_2.png) [@MrDibble](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MrDibble)\ **Post date:** [June 21, 2021, 6:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-martin-hyde/944407/180 "2021-06-21T06:02:02Z")
> [@Martin\_Hyde](#): > > I’m aware you have mixed ethnicity, but you do not identify as white based on anything you have ever posted here. I’m not White. Which doesn’t mean I can’t have a White mother, half-siblings, wife and best friends. > [@](#): > > In fact I would say psychologically most of your identity is actually tied up in being “anti-white.” Only a White supremacist racist thinks being anti-racist is the same as being anti-White. > [@Martin\_Hyde](#): > > Note that as per this thread ([Unclear Moderation + New Rule Protecting Nationality - #6 by Miller](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/unclear-moderation-new-rule-protecting-nationality/944724/6)) I will be unable to continue to participate in this discussion due to mod commentary. Naah, due to cowardice. I bet you’re actually relieved for that flimsy excuse, lying baby-man. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-martin-hyde/944407.md?page=8) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-martin-hyde/944407.md?page=10)