# I Pit Martin Hyde

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**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [June 16, 2021, 4:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-martin-hyde/944407 "2021-06-16T16:18:26Z")\
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**Author:** ![GIGObuster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gigobuster/32/421_2.png) [@GIGObuster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GIGObuster)\
**Post date:** [June 21, 2021, 4:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-martin-hyde/944407/179 "2021-06-21T04:57:26Z")

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I did notice back in 2014 that he jumped to disparage me and the way I posted cites in climate change discussions, nothing has changed. 🙂

[Wolfpup replying to Martin Hyde here]

> [@Big Oil are not Climate Change Denialists](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/big-oil-are-not-climate-change-denialists/692303/69):
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> A few things. First I must say that in my view your criticism of GIGO is both inappropriate and incorrect. He does offer substantial views of his own, but always provides citations to back them up, a process that takes a lot of work and that many, including myself, often don’t bother with. I’m also finding it hard to follow the logic of the quoted paragraph. I, for one, was certainly very much aware the Exxon and other oil companies were making conciliatory-sounding statements on their we…

But seriously, Martin Hyde also showed a very common trait seen on many conservatives that looked normal and then are not able to stop following the misleading propaganda they consume that turns more unhinged as time goes by. As noted in the threads that led to this pitting, he makes a mountain of the idea that we are calling him a Nazi or a holocaust denier, that is not the case, we are noticing that he is mostly a jerk. And so far he is in the territory of obfuscating what real reprehensible people did in the past.

Sure, there is no direct defense of the evil doers, but it is a tactic of guys that would like to seed doubts about those bad people needing to face justice, or their victims get some reparations.

And in the past I did notice several posters that started first as climate change lukewarmers or deniers. Showing later as nativists, and then obfuscating efforts to seek justice for the victims and then showed up as complete fascists and then get banned, not much for the racist bit, but mostly because the jerk part becomes more prominent.

As I pointed to another long time conservative poster that is falling into the same rabbit hole in another thread, **Martin** is not in the last phases of that process but he is getting closer. It is time for him though to get other sources of information and stop being a jerk before it is really too late.

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