# I Pit Men Who Think Working Women Are There to Service Their Sex Drive **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [April 30, 2012, 7:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-men-who-think-working-women-are-there-to-service-their-sex-drive/620441 "2012-04-30T19:50:01Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 21
**Author:** ![Cat\_Whisperer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cat_whisperer/32/4839_2.png) [@Cat\_Whisperer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cat_Whisperer)\ **Post date:** [May 6, 2012, 6:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-men-who-think-working-women-are-there-to-service-their-sex-drive/620441/401 "2012-05-06T18:23:53Z")
Wait, Karl Rove’s a zombie?!? ---
**Author:** ![FinnAgain](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/finnagain/32/12500_2.png) [@FinnAgain](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FinnAgain)\ **Post date:** [May 6, 2012, 6:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-men-who-think-working-women-are-there-to-service-their-sex-drive/620441/402 "2012-05-06T18:27:48Z")
That’s just stupid; you can’t drive off a zombie with a cross. Carl Rove is a vampire. ---
**Author:** ![digs](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/digs/32/14889_2.png) [@digs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/digs)\ **Post date:** [May 6, 2012, 6:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-men-who-think-working-women-are-there-to-service-their-sex-drive/620441/403 "2012-05-06T18:48:33Z")
> [@](#): > > …zombie…vampire… I didn’t stick around to find out. ---
**Author:** ![Cat\_Whisperer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cat_whisperer/32/4839_2.png) [@Cat\_Whisperer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cat_Whisperer)\ **Post date:** [May 6, 2012, 6:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-men-who-think-working-women-are-there-to-service-their-sex-drive/620441/404 "2012-05-06T18:50:13Z")
Well, if you sharpen the cross enough… ---
**Author:** ![Quartz](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/quartz/32/267_2.png) [@Quartz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Quartz)\ **Post date:** [May 6, 2012, 6:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-men-who-think-working-women-are-there-to-service-their-sex-drive/620441/405 "2012-05-06T18:58:04Z")
> [@Broomstick](#): > > There mere fact that that “working woman” is another way to say “whore” is a sad fact about our society, and illustrative of how women are viewed as anything other than equals to men. QFT ---
**Author:** ![Belowjob2.0](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/b9e5f3/32.png) [@Belowjob2.0](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Belowjob2.0)\ **Post date:** [May 6, 2012, 7:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-men-who-think-working-women-are-there-to-service-their-sex-drive/620441/406 "2012-05-06T19:08:26Z")
> [@](#): > > Quote: > **Originally Posted by Broomstick** > Oh, by the way – this is one of the very rare threads where curlcoat and I are on the same side, which says a lot about people like Mr. Ducca and Mr. Hartwick. By the way, curlcoat, although we’ve had MANY differences over the years, and no doubt will again, I do thank you for being a voice of reason and support here. So, you and curlcoat, eh? Aren’t you the hot little minx. First a random customer, and now an older broad. You do get around, don’t you?😉 ---
**Author:** ![Malacandra](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Malacandra](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Malacandra)\ **Post date:** [May 6, 2012, 8:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-men-who-think-working-women-are-there-to-service-their-sex-drive/620441/407 "2012-05-06T20:37:22Z")
> [@Quartz](#): > > QFT Meh. Thought it was more because we were too prissy to call a spade a spade, so we call a woman who fucks for money a “working girl” rather than something not so euphemistic. But what do I know? ---
**Author:** ![VinylTurnip](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/b2d939/32.png) [@VinylTurnip](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/VinylTurnip)\ **Post date:** [May 6, 2012, 11:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-men-who-think-working-women-are-there-to-service-their-sex-drive/620441/408 "2012-05-06T23:55:02Z")
Marginalization of the female sex is everywhere and constant, both overt and symbolic. Women are forever associated with the tools of servile oppression: the sewing machine, the rolling pin, the broomstick. We’ve come a long way, and yet have so far to go. ---
**Author:** ![Ludovic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/7ab992/32.png) [@Ludovic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ludovic)\ **Post date:** [May 7, 2012, 12:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-men-who-think-working-women-are-there-to-service-their-sex-drive/620441/409 "2012-05-07T00:26:16Z")
> [@Malacandra](#): > > Meh. Thought it was more because we were too prissy to call a spade a spade, so we call a woman who fucks for money a “working girl” rather than something not so euphemistic. But what do I know? I think it’s a Column A, Column B situation. ---
**Author:** ![Hbns](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/8edcca/32.png) [@Hbns](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hbns)\ **Post date:** [May 7, 2012, 3:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-men-who-think-working-women-are-there-to-service-their-sex-drive/620441/410 "2012-05-07T03:00:00Z")
> [@VinylTurnip](#): > > Women are forever associated with the tools of servile oppression: the sewing machine, the rolling pin, the broomstick. The rivet gun, the typewriter, the bank teller, the school teacher, the nurse, the mid level executive. 😉 ---
**Author:** ![saoirse](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/5daacb/32.png) [@saoirse](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/saoirse)\ **Post date:** [May 7, 2012, 5:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-men-who-think-working-women-are-there-to-service-their-sex-drive/620441/411 "2012-05-07T17:47:39Z")
> [@Hbns](#): > > The rivet gun, the typewriter, the bank teller, the school teacher, the nurse, the mid level executive. 😉 Two of those thongs are not like the other. ---
**Author:** ![Drunky\_Smurf](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/drunky_smurf/32/449_2.png) [@Drunky\_Smurf](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Drunky_Smurf)\ **Post date:** [May 7, 2012, 10:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-men-who-think-working-women-are-there-to-service-their-sex-drive/620441/412 "2012-05-07T22:23:07Z")
> [@digs](#): > > I’m just glad I haven’t embellished any of my stories here (my cite? The fact that they’re not all that interesting!). > > If I had, I’d be fessing up and apologizing right away, knowing they could be dredged up three years later. Seriously, it just hit me that stuff’s archived forever, and people’ll be able to quote me back to myself and say “Whoa, wait a minute. You’re playing the victim card and claiming you were just a lackey, when in this post from 2001 you make it sound like you’re running the whole company.” > > Followed, of course, by “Why should we believe you now about fending off an undead Karl Rove in a back alley?” > > _(because I still have the Jimmy Carter Inaugural Crucifix that I burned him with?)_ Speaking of: When are you going to tell us the story about how you ran the company into the ground causing many people to go to jail and many more being deported to Mongolia whilst you ran away with millions? ---
**Author:** ![digs](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/digs/32/14889_2.png) [@digs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/digs)\ **Post date:** [May 8, 2012, 3:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-men-who-think-working-women-are-there-to-service-their-sex-drive/620441/413 "2012-05-08T03:55:00Z")
> [@Drunky\_Smurf](#): > > Speaking of: > > When are you going to tell us the story about how you ran the company into the ground causing many people to go to jail and many more being deported to Mongolia whilst you ran away with millions? Damn, I didn’t think anyone would remember my promise to spill those particular beans. But now that I’ve uttered the words “haven’t embellished”, I think I’ll plead the fifth… and let you use your imaginations. (Suffice to say it was a tragic-yet-hilarious tale that ranged from grittiest Gotham to rural Rangoon, full of pious pirates and swishy samurai.) ETA: for the record, it was only a million five. And I would’ve gotten away with it, too, if it weren’t for those pesky kids and that dog! ---
**Author:** ![curlcoat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/ea5d25/32.png) [@curlcoat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/curlcoat)\ **Post date:** [May 8, 2012, 5:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-men-who-think-working-women-are-there-to-service-their-sex-drive/620441/414 "2012-05-08T05:16:26Z")
Well, since this thread has pretty much degenerated into a mishmash and joke farm… > [@Broomstick](#): > > You forget to mention that bit about desperately trying to discredit me by any means available by dredging up totally off-topic threads about other shit that really happened to me in life. I expect they are also trying to prove the Moon Landing Hoax and the Alien Autopsies in Area 51. > > Oh, by the way – this is one of the very rare threads where **curlcoat** and I are on the same side, which says a lot about people like Mr. Ducca and Mr. Hartwick. By the way, **curlcoat** , although we’ve had MANY differences over the years, and no doubt will again, I do thank you for being a voice of reason and support here. While I appreciate you noticing that it is actually possible that you can agree with me on something, I want you to look at these last two paragraphs of yours. I am not a one trick pony, yet because you disagree with me on that one subject, (off-topic threads) you find it surprising that we can agree on something? Then you go on to discredit me by saying that me agreeing with you casts a negative light on others. I am almost always the voice of reason, it’s just that folks in the grip of emotion refuse to see it. > [@](#): > > There mere fact that that “working woman” is another way to say “whore” is a sad fact about our society, and illustrative of how women are viewed as anything other than equals to men. A “working man” is to be praised, a “working woman” is a whore. It might also explain why Mr. Creeper and his ilk are so convinced that [del]working[/del] employed women are there to be their sex toys. Quoted for truth. > [@Dave\_Hartwick](#): > > Actually, I’m a little annoyed at how people are willing to believe that strangers openly insult you about your husband’s disability, just because they’re working class. What are you on about, something from some three year old thread? People do openly insult the disabled all the time, so I imagine it isn’t hard for those here to believe it has happened to **Broomstick** and her husband. > [@](#): > > Skepticism is a part of board culture. “Skepticism” is not the proper word to describe what is going on here. > [@](#): > > You’re the one making a claim that is, in my opinion, not so far off from seeing an alien in your backyard. I refer to your highschool exploits, not the harassment. The former is hard to believe, the latter not. Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence, or, pics or STFU. In your opinion, nobody has every been beaten up in school and gone on to make sure it didn’t happen again? Shoot, it’s a freaking cliche. > [@](#): > > Nice work being deliberately obtuse, but you know exactly what I’m talking about. A large percentage of any middle-aged Facebook users friends list is likely to be from high school, simply because FB makes it very easy to find people who went to school for you. I have exactly two FB friends who went to high school with me. Do you have a cite for " large percentage of any middle-aged Facebook users friends list is likely to be from high school"? > [@](#): > > You’ve discredited yourself, nobody did it to you. I have no idea if she has ever discredited herself, but given the history of several people on this board, I wouldn’t be surprised if the “discredit” was actually fabrications and outright lies about things she’s said. > [@MsWhatsit](#): > > Yikes. Bitch. ---
**Author:** ![digs](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/digs/32/14889_2.png) [@digs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/digs)\ **Post date:** [May 8, 2012, 5:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-men-who-think-working-women-are-there-to-service-their-sex-drive/620441/415 "2012-05-08T05:35:47Z")
If you’d wanted to look like the “voice of reason”, you would’ve just left this as a “mishmash and joke farm”… ---
**Author:** ![curlcoat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/ea5d25/32.png) [@curlcoat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/curlcoat)\ **Post date:** [May 8, 2012, 5:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-men-who-think-working-women-are-there-to-service-their-sex-drive/620441/416 "2012-05-08T05:47:25Z")
> [@digs](#): > > If you’d wanted to look like the “voice of reason”, you would’ve just left this as a “mishmash and joke farm”… Why is that? ---
**Author:** ![Library\_Boy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/cab0a1/32.png) [@Library\_Boy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Library_Boy)\ **Post date:** [May 8, 2012, 6:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-men-who-think-working-women-are-there-to-service-their-sex-drive/620441/417 "2012-05-08T06:18:31Z")
> [@curlcoat](#): > > Why is that? I’m guessing hormones. ---
**Author:** ![thirdwarning](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/ecccb3/32.png) [@thirdwarning](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/thirdwarning)\ **Post date:** [May 8, 2012, 6:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-men-who-think-working-women-are-there-to-service-their-sex-drive/620441/418 "2012-05-08T06:50:02Z")
> [@Dave\_Hartwick](#): > > 1. Nice work being deliberately obtuse, but you know exactly what I’m talking about. A large percentage of any middle-aged Facebook users friends list is likely to be from high school, simply because FB makes it very easy to find people who went to school for you. Given that Broomstick has said that she was bullied by at least several people during her school years, and that the school did next to nothing about it, I doubt her Facebook friends list would be all that replete with people from those days. As for whoever the doofus was claiming that if it had happened to him he’d have pictures and witnesses who were willing to stand up and tell all about it now, (was that you, Dave?) I have to say that’s one incredibly stupid and arrogant claim. Proof positive that you know absolutely nothing about it. A kid gets pushed around and bullied by several people in school and you actually expect that ‘witnesses’ would be all on her side? You actually expect that she’d have bunches of friends, years later, who would support her story? Oh, wait, you actually expect that she’d have had bunches of friends in school. A kid gets harrassed and hurt repeatedly and finally fights back and you actually think she’s going to keep records of it? A damn scrapbook, full of pictures of the day(s) she finally wasn’t humiliated and hurt? You know, as I type this I begin to see that you’re even more of a doofus than I thought you were. What a complete fool you are! **Broomstick** , I’m sorry for what happened with the creeper. I’m sorry that this thread deteriorated into a bunch of misogyny and stupidity. Oh, and I’ll be thankful for this thread in the future, when I can discount anything ibanez has to say. ---
**Author:** ![Dave\_Hartwick](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/7feea3/32.png) [@Dave\_Hartwick](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dave_Hartwick)\ **Post date:** [May 8, 2012, 7:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-men-who-think-working-women-are-there-to-service-their-sex-drive/620441/419 "2012-05-08T07:16:26Z")
> [@thirdwarning](#): > > Given that Broomstick has said that she was bullied by at least several people during her school years, and that the school did next to nothing about it, I doubt her Facebook friends list would be all that replete with people from those days. See, we’re reading this differently. You’re reading it that she was getting her ass beat. I’m reading it that she was kicking ass, possibly up to and including the day when a thug was hired. I say possibly because she stopped there and made no mention of the the KGB, the Gambino Family, or the Bolivian Army coming into play. And yeah, if I went through highschool getting my ass dramatically kicked, I do think I’d have little trouble finding witnesses via FB. ---
**Author:** ![CanvasShoes](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/74df32/32.png) [@CanvasShoes](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CanvasShoes)\ **Post date:** [May 8, 2012, 7:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-men-who-think-working-women-are-there-to-service-their-sex-drive/620441/420 "2012-05-08T19:36:44Z")
> [@Bosstone](#): > > It could easily be tone-deaf. > > I’ll shut up now, because I really don’t like turning this kind of thing into a semantic hair-splitting parsing thing, only just to point out that there was enough ambiguity that those of us men with less direct experience weren’t intentionally downplaying it. It sounded like **Broomstick** was pissed off with an annoyance and wanted to rant in the Pit, not fearful or threatened. > > Anyway, regardless of how it actually happened, it seriously isn’t good. I’ve dropped a male coworker in hot water for making a female coworker uncomfortable, and I’d like to think I could do the same for a female employee with an asshole customer. **Bosstone** , his very action in coming back the first thing the next morning, wanting to know why he didn’t call, is the physical behaviour equivalent of “yelling”. It’s beyond tone-deaf of him. Maybe **Broomstick** , wanted to rant and sounded “annoyed” but I’ll bet dollars to donuts her annoyance is a factor of at least some fear of this. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-men-who-think-working-women-are-there-to-service-their-sex-drive/620441.md?page=20) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-men-who-think-working-women-are-there-to-service-their-sex-drive/620441.md?page=22)