# I Pit Men Who Think Working Women Are There to Service Their Sex Drive **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [April 30, 2012, 7:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-men-who-think-working-women-are-there-to-service-their-sex-drive/620441 "2012-04-30T19:50:01Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 1\ **Showing post:** 344
**Author:** ![Bricker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/977dab/32.png) [@Bricker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bricker)\ **Post date:** [May 4, 2012, 6:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-men-who-think-working-women-are-there-to-service-their-sex-drive/620441/344 "2012-05-04T18:50:19Z")
> [@mister\_nyx](#): > > So there are no actual threads in which she told crazy stories, or at very least you can’t find any. But her credibility is totally questionable, in a thread in which she describes being treated in a way that is unacceptable but (grotesquely) obviously not all that uncommon for women. I don’t know if this is a credibility issue, or more an issue of poor communication coupled with an astonishing inability to acknowledge fault. But several years ago, **Broomstick** made this claim: > [@I pit Poverty and the current economic crisis](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-poverty-and-the-current-economic-crisis/479487/16): > > Monday of this week there was a three block line at the unemployment office as of 8 am in the morning. There are NO, repeat NO want ads in the local papers, not even for crap jobs. It’s been like that for weeks. The expectation is that it will only get worse. Now, there are a couple ways to read that – a literal claim that there have been zero want ads in the paper for weeks, or a more hyperbolic claim – there are no jobs for which she is suited, or something along those lines. Another poster in Broomtick’s local area comes along to post links to the online want ads, says the actual paper does have want ads, and so it’s at this point yoiu might expect her to clarify that “NO, repeat NO” want ads was not actually a literal claim. > [@I pit Poverty and the current economic crisis](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-poverty-and-the-current-economic-crisis/479487/37): > > The Times has contracted out their want ads to Yahoo - they are searchable by zip code. The one I linked to is for Munster; Gary has two pages worth. > > Fair enough - but those are just the new listings. The Post-Trib has a poor website design, integrated with the Chicago Sun Times. > > I do not dispute that the economy is shitty, and I’m not trying to be snarky. But I’m very curious, and since we both know this area… > > Why can’t you find a job? I know that our local papers are _filled_with job listings. Granted, some of them are “nationwide” scam-kinda listings, but there are still many, many jobs. I am a paralegal, and out of curiosity, I always check the clerical/admin type of jobs. There are tons of them around here, and that’s just in my field. And in response to another poster’s request for clarification: > [@I pit Poverty and the current economic crisis](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-poverty-and-the-current-economic-crisis/479487/81): > > \*\*Broomstick \*\*and I both live in Northwest Indiana. There are only two major papers in this area - The Hammond Times and the Gary Post-Tribune. There are a handful of local town papers, but they are not much more than ads and pictures of the Rotary Club. > > I obviously can’t scan and post the actual classifieds for our local papers, but their jobs sections are quite large. I linked to their websites - unfortunately, because of an attempt to control costs, they are both hooked up with larger web companies. The Post-Tribune is with the Chicago Sun Times, and the Times has now apparently joined the Yahoo jobs site. > > The Times jobs I linked to are for one town in the area - Munster. You can search by zip code for others. I tried Gary as well, and there were two pages worth of jobs. > > The Post-Tribune has always had a crappy website, but I note that they have seven “new” jobs posted, and it is my understanding those run by the day. So, today, seven new jobs were added to their job database. > > As I said, the actual classified job section is big, and even bigger on “employment” day, which I believe is Wednesday. > > \*\*Broomstick \*\*has had a crappy run of luck, and I appreciate her position. However, I am always wondering about those who say “There are no jobs” and it turns out there are many jobs, just not ones that they want or like. I was not taught that jobs need to conform to my wants and needs, but that I must change to meet the limits of the job. Again, a perfect time to back off and say, “Look, obviously there are some jobs listed, but they are unsuitable.” But instead Broomstick chose to continue to defend her claim, and lashed out at the questioning of her: > [@Broomstick](#): > > Fine, call me a liar, say it’s all my fault, it’s still the party line that the poor are poor because they choose to be poor and deserve to suffer. I’ve been hearing it for decades, and even more since I was laid off because management decided to eliminate wholesale an entire job category and not because of a conduct problem. That couldn’t possibly happen to any of the privileged characters who enjoy pissing on people going through a hard time. After all, if it’s not the poor peoples’ fault then - OMG! - you might one day have bad luck yourself! Which, of course, was a nice attempt to deflect the specific inquiry about the literal number of ads in the paper onto a more general topic of sympathy for the poor. I questioned the literal claim, and said it might have been one day, but not weeks. No, she insisted, it had been weeks with no want ads: > [@I pit Poverty and the current economic crisis](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-poverty-and-the-current-economic-crisis/479487/146): > > > [@Bricker](#): > > > > C’mon – for weeks, every single place you looked, there were NO, repeat NO, want ads? > > Uh.. yeah. There hasn’t been any odd job construction things for me to do the last couple weeks of December (last day I worked was the 19th) and I’ve spent the better part of two weeks trying to get the Federal unemployment extension that I was told in a nice formal letter I qualified for. The fact my past year’s work history extends to two states is apparently causing some trouble and confusion, along the fact that Lake County closed one of it’s two “full service” unemployment offices resulting in extreme overcrowding and backlogs at the remaining office. It’s been particularly bad of late. I didn’t intend for it to take so long, but at least give me credit for continuing to look for something while standing in a three block long line at 8 am freezing my ass off. While at the unemployment office I clearly wasn’t on MY computer or the library’s and while they have some there at the UO they were restricting them to those entering claims and not permitting their use for job searches due to the aforementioned overcrowding. The thread degenerated from there, with me continuing to point out that it was fine to have made a hyperbolic statement, but don’t defend it as literal… and if you are defending it as literal, it’s a lie. In looking back on it, I don’t think the issue was dishonesty. I think it was poor communication skills. A simple rolleyes at the beginning, with a “Yes, genius, you got me. There want ads for electricians and diesel mechanics. Thanks for the catch,” would have defused it. And of course being me, I couldn’t let it go without an acknowledgement of the misstatement, which was perhaps not my finest hour. But for whatever it’s worth, this example answers your literal question. --- _[View the full topic](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-men-who-think-working-women-are-there-to-service-their-sex-drive/620441)._