# I pit MordecaiB

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-mordecaib/946419>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [July 13, 2021, 8:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-mordecaib/946419 "2021-07-13T20:31:27Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Babale](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/babale/32/15666_2.png) [@Babale](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Babale)\
**Post date:** [July 13, 2021, 8:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-mordecaib/946419/1 "2021-07-13T20:31:27Z")

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> [@Should moderator actions be in public or in private?](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/should-moderator-actions-be-in-public-or-in-private/945286/150):
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> Speaking of **WhatExit?** and public modding. I still have not received an answer from him on whether or not he hid my post from everyones view until he could comprise his defense and shut down any replies to it post. If my post was really so bad that enough posters flagged it that it was automatically removed by Discourse, why then after he had his post ready, did my post reappear totally unmodded and acceptable. What exactly did all these posters find objectionable in my post? Did all mods receive notice of this terrible post of mine but come to an agreement it was ok in such a short time? All of this in about five minutes in a thread that had no posters after I posted. If only the mods worked this fast on everything

Since you’re apparently not gonna drop this, I’ll admit it where it isn’t against the rules - I reported you for trying to start a board war within moments of you making that post, since I was already in the thread, and apparently that was enough to flag your post until a mod cleared it. But that’s not why I’m pitting you; this thread is for mocking your delusions of grandeur. Nobody gives nearly enough of a rat’s ass about your stupid fucking post to “hide it from public view”. You aren’t Deep Throat, you’re fucking Bozo the Clown. Leave W.E. alone.

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**Author:** ![Babale](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/babale/32/15666_2.png) [@Babale](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Babale)\
**Post date:** [July 13, 2021, 8:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-mordecaib/946419/2 "2021-07-13T20:59:44Z")

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> [@Should moderator actions be in public or in private?](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/should-moderator-actions-be-in-public-or-in-private/945286/153):
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> I’m going to PM you since apparently the post was so offensive it was disappeared by the system while you composed your defense of posting on Giraffe.

The conspiracy ramblings continue!

> [@Should moderator actions be in public or in private?](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/should-moderator-actions-be-in-public-or-in-private/945286/154):
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> > [@Should moderator actions be in public or in private?](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/should-moderator-actions-be-in-public-or-in-private/945286/152):
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> > You aren’t gonna receive an answer outside the Pit, like I said. So since you aren’t gonna let this go, I answered you in the Pit.
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> Oh noes! A giraffe board member pits a Doper! Whatever shall I do?

What kind of cliquey fucking idiot are you? Are you a 16 year old girl who insists on everyone wearing pink on Wednesdays?

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**Author:** ![puzzlegal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/puzzlegal/32/3827_2.png) [@puzzlegal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/puzzlegal)\
**Post date:** [July 13, 2021, 9:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-mordecaib/946419/3 "2021-07-13T21:12:28Z")

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I don’t think a single poster (including a mod) can hide a post here. I’m not 100% sure, but when I’ve seen hidden posts, it’s taken like 3 reports to do it. I didn’t follow this one in real time, but I’m pretty sure that if the post got hidden, a bunch of dopers flagged it.

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**Author:** ![Babale](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/babale/32/15666_2.png) [@Babale](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Babale)\
**Post date:** [July 13, 2021, 9:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-mordecaib/946419/4 "2021-07-13T21:13:01Z")

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Which makes sense, because he was trying to start a board war.

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**Author:** ![hajario](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hajario/32/171_2.png) [@hajario](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/hajario)\
**Post date:** [July 13, 2021, 9:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-mordecaib/946419/5 "2021-07-13T21:17:14Z")

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> [@puzzlegal](#):
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> I didn’t follow this one in real time, but I’m pretty sure that if the post got hidden, a bunch of dopers flagged it.

Yep. Either a Mod intentionally hid it or it was auto-hidden for too many flags. Like you, I am certain it was the latter.

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**Author:** ![puzzlegal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/puzzlegal/32/3827_2.png) [@puzzlegal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/puzzlegal)\
**Post date:** [July 13, 2021, 9:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-mordecaib/946419/6 "2021-07-13T21:19:06Z")

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I know how a mod can hide a post by his lonesome on a different discourse board with different settings. I honestly don’t think we can do that here. Maybe I need to test that… No, seriously, I’ve only seen that (here) when there were multiple flags.

We can DELETE posts, but that’s different.

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**Author:** ![JaneDoe42](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/janedoe42/32/14104_2.png) [@JaneDoe42](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JaneDoe42)\
**Post date:** [July 13, 2021, 9:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-mordecaib/946419/7 "2021-07-13T21:23:54Z")

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If you want to test your supermod powers on my post, please feel free.

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**Author:** ![puzzlegal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/puzzlegal/32/3827_2.png) [@puzzlegal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/puzzlegal)\
**Post date:** [July 13, 2021, 9:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-mordecaib/946419/8 "2021-07-13T21:35:28Z")

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Okay, I take it back. It is technically possible for me to hide a post and then unhide it. Neat. Not sure how useful that is, but neat.

Thanks, JaneDoe.

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**Author:** ![JaneDoe42](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/janedoe42/32/14104_2.png) [@JaneDoe42](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JaneDoe42)\
**Post date:** [July 13, 2021, 9:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-mordecaib/946419/9 "2021-07-13T21:36:38Z")

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Here’s the auto-message I just received.

Hello,

This is an automated message from Straight Dope Message Board to let you know that your post was hidden.

> [@I pit MordecaiB](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-mordecaib/946419/7):
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> If you want to test your supermod powers on my post, please feel free.

Your post was flagged **for moderator attention** : the community feels something about the post requires manual intervention by a staff member.

This post was hidden due to flags from the community, so please consider how you might revise your post to reflect their feedback. **You can edit your post after 10 minutes, and it will be automatically unhidden.**

However, if the post is hidden by the community a second time, it will remain hidden until handled by staff.

For additional guidance, please refer to our [community guidelines](https://boards.straightdope.com/guidelines).

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**Author:** ![DemonTree](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/demontree/32/8646_2.png) [@DemonTree](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DemonTree)\
**Post date:** [July 13, 2021, 9:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-mordecaib/946419/10 "2021-07-13T21:37:14Z")

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@puzzlegal has the **POWER**!

How many flags are required from ordinary users to hide a post?

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**Author:** ![puzzlegal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/puzzlegal/32/3827_2.png) [@puzzlegal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/puzzlegal)\
**Post date:** [July 13, 2021, 9:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-mordecaib/946419/11 "2021-07-13T21:47:02Z")

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Dunno. It might vary by type of flag. That is, spam flags might be treated differently from “all other” flags. There are a ton of options in the admin panels, and I think that’s something the admin can adjust.

I feel like it’s typically 2-3 flags on hidden posts that I’ve reviewed as a mod. But I can’t say that I’ve taken detailed notes or anything.

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**Author:** ![DemonTree](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/demontree/32/8646_2.png) [@DemonTree](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DemonTree)\
**Post date:** [July 13, 2021, 9:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-mordecaib/946419/12 "2021-07-13T21:58:14Z")

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I suppose if groups of users start abusing flagging to hide posts the mods can stamp on them.

Can you see how many people flagged @mordecaiB’s post, or do the notices get deleted after being dealt with?

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**Author:** ![puzzlegal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/puzzlegal/32/3827_2.png) [@puzzlegal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/puzzlegal)\
**Post date:** [July 13, 2021, 10:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-mordecaib/946419/13 "2021-07-13T22:01:32Z")

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Theoretically, I could. But

1. it’s a huge PITA. The thing I hate most about Discourse is that it hides anything it thinks you have already “finished”. So it’s hard to find the thread you just read, or the moderation that’s been ticked off as handled. And Discourse is especially unfriendly about looking through flags that have been handled.
2. It would be inappropriate for me to tell you the answer, so I don’t really have any motive to do it.

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**Author:** ![crowmanyclouds](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/crowmanyclouds/32/19884_2.png) [@crowmanyclouds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/crowmanyclouds)\
**Post date:** [July 13, 2021, 10:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-mordecaib/946419/14 "2021-07-13T22:02:09Z")

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> [@DemonTree](#):
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> I suppose if groups of users start abusing flagging to hide posts {…}

I don’t think I’ve seen a ‘hidden’ flagged post that I couldn’t click on and read.

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**Author:** ![DemonTree](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/demontree/32/8646_2.png) [@DemonTree](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DemonTree)\
**Post date:** [July 13, 2021, 10:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-mordecaib/946419/15 "2021-07-13T22:04:28Z")

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> [@puzzlegal](#):
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> - It would be inappropriate for me to tell you the answer, so I don’t really have any motive to do it.

I thought modding decisions were public here? Does that not include whether a mod chose to hide a post?

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**Author:** ![DemonTree](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/demontree/32/8646_2.png) [@DemonTree](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DemonTree)\
**Post date:** [July 13, 2021, 10:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-mordecaib/946419/16 "2021-07-13T22:06:22Z")

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> [@crowmanyclouds](#):
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> I don’t think I’ve seen a ‘hidden’ flagged post that I couldn’t click on and read.

IIRC I saw one that said it would be deleted after a certain amount of time if not edited, and settings here prevent editing an old post. I don’t know if it eventually was deleted.

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**Author:** ![Babale](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/babale/32/15666_2.png) [@Babale](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Babale)\
**Post date:** [July 13, 2021, 10:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-mordecaib/946419/17 "2021-07-13T22:06:56Z")

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> [@DemonTree](#):
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> I suppose if groups of users start abusing flagging to hide posts the mods can stamp on them.
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> Can you see how many people flagged @mordecaiB’s post, or do the notices get deleted after being dealt with?

The mods have slapped people down for frivolous reports before, and in Discourse a report is just a PM to the mod group. So they’d be able to keep track, and warn repeat offenders. No worse than any other kind of bad behavior.

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**Author:** ![crowmanyclouds](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/crowmanyclouds/32/19884_2.png) [@crowmanyclouds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/crowmanyclouds)\
**Post date:** [July 13, 2021, 10:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-mordecaib/946419/18 "2021-07-13T22:08:07Z")

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> [@DemonTree](#):
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> I thought modding decisions were public here? Does that not include whether a mod chose to hide a post?

You didn’t ask about the decision,

> [@DemonTree](#):
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> {…} Can you see how many people flagged @mordecaiB’s post, or do the notices get deleted after being dealt with?

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**Author:** ![DemonTree](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/demontree/32/8646_2.png) [@DemonTree](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DemonTree)\
**Post date:** [July 13, 2021, 10:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-mordecaib/946419/19 "2021-07-13T22:08:37Z")

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That’s what I was thinking… if they realised it was happening. The same few people flagging a post within a short time of each other would be what to look for.

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**Author:** ![crowmanyclouds](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/crowmanyclouds/32/19884_2.png) [@crowmanyclouds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/crowmanyclouds)\
**Post date:** [July 13, 2021, 10:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-mordecaib/946419/20 "2021-07-13T22:09:42Z")

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> [@DemonTree](#):
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> IIRC I saw one that said it would be deleted after a certain amount of time if not edited, and settings here prevent editing an old post. I don’t know if it eventually was deleted.

That wasn’t a flagged post, it was a user-deleted one I’m reasonably certain.

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