# I pit MordecaiB

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-mordecaib/946419>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [July 13, 2021, 8:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-mordecaib/946419 "2021-07-13T20:31:27Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![DemonTree](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/demontree/32/8646_2.png) [@DemonTree](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DemonTree)\
**Post date:** [July 13, 2021, 10:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-mordecaib/946419/21 "2021-07-13T22:10:21Z")

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> [@crowmanyclouds](#):
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> You didn’t ask about the decision,

The number of people who flagged the post would reveal whether it was WE who hid it, or the system.

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**Author:** ![DemonTree](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/demontree/32/8646_2.png) [@DemonTree](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DemonTree)\
**Post date:** [July 13, 2021, 10:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-mordecaib/946419/22 "2021-07-13T22:11:34Z")

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Nah, it was defo a flagged one. I’ve seen user-deleted posts and they are different. In fact I deleted one myself to see what happened.

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**Author:** ![crowmanyclouds](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/crowmanyclouds/32/19884_2.png) [@crowmanyclouds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/crowmanyclouds)\
**Post date:** [July 13, 2021, 10:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-mordecaib/946419/23 "2021-07-13T22:12:03Z")

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If the system hid posts then the mods wouldn’t need to hide spam.

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**Author:** ![raventhief](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/raventhief/32/4_2.png) [@raventhief](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/raventhief)\
**Post date:** [July 13, 2021, 10:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-mordecaib/946419/24 "2021-07-13T22:13:22Z")

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I tested it too, just now Jane. It may get hidden again.

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**Author:** ![puzzlegal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/puzzlegal/32/3827_2.png) [@puzzlegal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/puzzlegal)\
**Post date:** [July 13, 2021, 10:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-mordecaib/946419/25 "2021-07-13T22:13:37Z")

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The system is actually extremely good at hiding spam. Some gets through and is flagged by posters. But if I log into Discourse early in the morning there can be half a dozen posts that the system hid (until a moderator looks at them) because the system thinks they are spam. It’s almost always right, too.

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**Author:** ![crowmanyclouds](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/crowmanyclouds/32/19884_2.png) [@crowmanyclouds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/crowmanyclouds)\
**Post date:** [July 13, 2021, 10:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-mordecaib/946419/26 "2021-07-13T22:14:33Z")

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Hmm, are there different system rules for spam reports vs the others?

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**Author:** ![Babale](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/babale/32/15666_2.png) [@Babale](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Babale)\
**Post date:** [July 13, 2021, 10:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-mordecaib/946419/27 "2021-07-13T22:15:05Z")

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> [@DemonTree](#):
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> > [@crowmanyclouds](#):
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> > You didn’t ask about the decision,
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> The number of people who flagged the post would reveal whether it was WE who hid it, or the system.

I don’t think the mods need to reveal any kind of information to debunk that sort of bullshit.

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**Author:** ![DemonTree](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/demontree/32/8646_2.png) [@DemonTree](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DemonTree)\
**Post date:** [July 13, 2021, 10:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-mordecaib/946419/28 "2021-07-13T22:15:15Z")

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I think there is a system that flags spam automatically, without being reported.

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**Author:** ![puzzlegal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/puzzlegal/32/3827_2.png) [@puzzlegal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/puzzlegal)\
**Post date:** [July 13, 2021, 10:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-mordecaib/946419/29 "2021-07-13T22:15:48Z")

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> [@DemonTree](#):
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> That’s what I was thinking… if they realised it was happening. The same few people flagging a post within a short time of each other would be what to look for.

It’s painfully obvious to the mods when the same one or two people flag a lot of stuff in a short time period.

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**Author:** ![chela](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chela/32/21582_2.png) [@chela](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/chela)\
**Post date:** [July 13, 2021, 10:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-mordecaib/946419/30 "2021-07-13T22:16:13Z")

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Oh I’m pretty sure y’all keep your bonfire for board wars flaming all day and night over there but we’re not supposed to mention it here at all.

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**Author:** ![Babale](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/babale/32/15666_2.png) [@Babale](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Babale)\
**Post date:** [July 13, 2021, 10:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-mordecaib/946419/31 "2021-07-13T22:16:55Z")

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> [@DemonTree](#):
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> I think there is a system that flags spam automatically, without being reported.

I wonder if reporting the issue quickly enough is a factor. So I tried reporting your post right away using the something else tag. Did your post get hidden?

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**Author:** ![Babale](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/babale/32/15666_2.png) [@Babale](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Babale)\
**Post date:** [July 13, 2021, 10:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-mordecaib/946419/32 "2021-07-13T22:18:19Z")

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> [@chela](#):
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> Oh I’m pretty sure y’all keep your bonfire for board wars flaming all day and night over there but we’re not supposed to mention it here at all.

I’m a poster here, and I’m not trying to start a thread war with myself; so your babbling really has no connection with reality.

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**Author:** ![puzzlegal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/puzzlegal/32/3827_2.png) [@puzzlegal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/puzzlegal)\
**Post date:** [July 13, 2021, 10:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-mordecaib/946419/33 "2021-07-13T22:18:34Z")

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> [@crowmanyclouds](#):
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> Hmm, are there different system rules for spam reports vs the others?

Sure. The system never auto-reports something as inappropriate or off-topic, because it can’t tell. But it can tell that a brand new poster who hasn’t read a single post just posted a commercial link.

But also, when you report a post it gives you several options (we’ve asked posters to stick to “spam” and “something else” but there are two others) and the system treats them slightly differently.

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**Author:** ![DemonTree](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/demontree/32/8646_2.png) [@DemonTree](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DemonTree)\
**Post date:** [July 13, 2021, 10:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-mordecaib/946419/34 "2021-07-13T22:18:51Z")

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Nope. And you really should have asked permission first before generating spurious flags.

I was gonna suggest we try flagging one post to see how many reports it takes, but only if a mod agrees.

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**Author:** ![Babale](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/babale/32/15666_2.png) [@Babale](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Babale)\
**Post date:** [July 13, 2021, 10:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-mordecaib/946419/35 "2021-07-13T22:20:11Z")

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> [@DemonTree](#):
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> Nope. And you really should have asked permission first before generating spurious flags.

That’s fair, my thirst for knowledge got ahead of me there.

Our scientists were so busy asking whether or not they could that they didn’t stop to ask whether or not they should.

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**Author:** ![DemonTree](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/demontree/32/8646_2.png) [@DemonTree](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DemonTree)\
**Post date:** [July 13, 2021, 10:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-mordecaib/946419/36 "2021-07-13T22:21:29Z")

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> [@Babale](#):
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> Our scientists were so busy asking whether or not they could that they didn’t stop to ask whether or not they should.

Lol. Ours too. Air cooled nuclear reactor with graphite moderators… mutter mutter.

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**Author:** ![Miller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/miller/32/481_2.png) [@Miller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Miller)\
**Post date:** [July 13, 2021, 10:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-mordecaib/946419/37 "2021-07-13T22:24:59Z")

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> [@Babale](#):
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> That’s fair, my thirst for knowledge got ahead of me there.

[Moderating]  
It’s not a big deal, but experimenting with board features should properly go in ATMB. Please open a thread there to continue this.  
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**Author:** ![Thing.Fish](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thing.fish/32/9168_2.png) [@Thing.Fish](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Thing.Fish)\
**Post date:** [July 13, 2021, 10:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-mordecaib/946419/38 "2021-07-13T22:40:43Z")

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This already reads like an ATMB thread. Please, more scorn heaped on mordechai!

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**Author:** ![raventhief](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/raventhief/32/4_2.png) [@raventhief](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/raventhief)\
**Post date:** [July 13, 2021, 10:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-mordecaib/946419/39 "2021-07-13T22:51:18Z")

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sorry Miller.

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**Author:** ![puzzlegal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/puzzlegal/32/3827_2.png) [@puzzlegal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/puzzlegal)\
**Post date:** [July 13, 2021, 10:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-mordecaib/946419/40 "2021-07-13T22:56:09Z")

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Yeah, my apologies, too.

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