# I pit MordecaiB

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-mordecaib/946419>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [July 13, 2021, 8:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-mordecaib/946419 "2021-07-13T20:31:27Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 18\
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**Author:** ![Do\_Not\_Taunt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/do_not_taunt/32/2968_2.png) [@Do\_Not\_Taunt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Do_Not_Taunt)\
**Post date:** [July 14, 2021, 3:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-mordecaib/946419/62 "2021-07-14T15:22:21Z")

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> [@Max\_S](#):
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> After years of keeping a low profile, in 2020 it’s SDMB mania, multiple posts a day.

I can’t think of any other reason someone would start posting much more in 2020 of all years, can you?

> [@Thing.Fish](#):
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> Fuck him, and fuck you for defending him.

This is some of the weakest sauce that has been showing up in the Pit a lot recently. You made a weak argument. @needscoffee pointed it out because, you know, it’s a public message board. That doesn’t make her @mordecaiB’s defense attorney, and the suggestion that everyone should let your weak argument slide because @mordecaiB is loathsome is silly.

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**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\
**Post date:** [July 14, 2021, 3:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-mordecaib/946419/63 "2021-07-14T15:37:50Z")

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> [@DemonTree](#):
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> I suppose if groups of users start abusing flagging to hide posts the mods can stamp on them.

Interestingly, this seems to be the mode of anti-vaxxers on facebook. I posted a simple link to a National Public Radio article outlining a scientific study that showed the Delta Covid variant was more infectious and possibly more dangerous. The anti-vaxxer in the discussion flagged it, and my post was hidden for “violating community standards”. A link from NPR about a peer reviewed scientific paper. This seems to be how anti-vaxxers are trying to shut down discussion.

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**Author:** ![Max\_S](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/46a35a/32.png) [@Max\_S](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Max_S)\
**Post date:** [July 14, 2021, 5:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-mordecaib/946419/64 "2021-07-14T17:16:08Z")

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> [@Do\_Not\_Taunt](#):
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> I can’t think of any other reason someone would start posting much more in 2020 of all years, can you?

I did consider that COVID-19, being laid off, or even retirement might have given our pittee more free time to spend. The point was, why suddenly decide to spend it _here_ if the moderation is so bad that it scares away new members?

And for the record I’m talking going from 1-2 posts per year average to maybe 35-40 posts in 2020 (he returned in June), then 40 posts in January '21 alone and even more active ever since.

~Max

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**Author:** ![Do\_Not\_Taunt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/do_not_taunt/32/2968_2.png) [@Do\_Not\_Taunt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Do_Not_Taunt)\
**Post date:** [July 14, 2021, 5:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-mordecaib/946419/65 "2021-07-14T17:18:06Z")

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40 posts in one month?!? Well, slap my mother! I didn’t realize we were talking about that level of verbosity.

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**Author:** ![Max\_S](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/46a35a/32.png) [@Max\_S](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Max_S)\
**Post date:** [July 14, 2021, 5:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-mordecaib/946419/66 "2021-07-14T17:19:29Z")

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I’m not pitting **mordecaiB** for being an active poster. Just for arguing in ATMB that the moderation in the past few years has gone to hell and scares away new members.

ETA: (And he is at [889 posts since July of last year](https://boards.straightdope.com/u?name=mordecaib&order=likes_received&period=yearly), meaning ~850 posts this year. The pace has picked up considerably - something has drawn him back to the SDMB despite his arguments that bad moderation is scaring members away)

~Max

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**Author:** ![Thing.Fish](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thing.fish/32/9168_2.png) [@Thing.Fish](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Thing.Fish)\
**Post date:** [July 14, 2021, 5:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-mordecaib/946419/67 "2021-07-14T17:26:24Z")

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OK, I was having a bad day yesterday and I way overreacted to @needscoffee’s post, for which I unconditionally apologize.

I still don’t think my editing substantially changed the meaning of the quote. I did snip the bits where (if you read it charitably) he admitted it was possible he was just confused about what people were talking about (which turned out to be the case). However, I felt that in context that was a snarky rhetorical device rather than a sincere admission of possible error, so I felt justified in snipping it. If mordecai’s intention was to actually to express humility and acknowledge that he was possibly in the wrong…well, he did a very poor job of conveying that tone.

In retrospect it’s clear that mordecai, intentionally or otherwise, moved the goalposts and shifted the conversation from being specifically about SDMB moderation policy to being about society in general. That led to me forgetting which forum we were in and talking past **Demon Tree** for a few go-rounds in which I was wondering why she was viewing the problem as being so much simpler than it was!

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**Author:** ![DemonTree](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/demontree/32/8646_2.png) [@DemonTree](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DemonTree)\
**Post date:** [July 14, 2021, 5:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-mordecaib/946419/68 "2021-07-14T17:31:07Z")

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> [@Euphonious\_Polemic](#):
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> Interestingly, this seems to be the mode of anti-vaxxers on facebook. I posted a simple link to a National Public Radio article outlining a scientific study that showed the Delta Covid variant was more infectious and possibly more dangerous. The anti-vaxxer in the discussion flagged it, and my post was hidden for “violating community standards”. A link from NPR about a peer reviewed scientific paper. This seems to be how anti-vaxxers are trying to shut down discussion.

That’s unfortunate. I don’t really use Facebook, but I’ve heard very bad things about the moderation there.

> [@Thing.Fish](#):
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> That led to me forgetting which forum we were in and talking past **Demon Tree** for a few go-rounds in which I was wondering why she was viewing the problem as being so much simpler than it was!

Heh, and now I understand why you were making it so complicated.

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**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\
**Post date:** [July 14, 2021, 5:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-mordecaib/946419/69 "2021-07-14T17:38:59Z")

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> [@Euphonious\_Polemic](#):
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> > [@DemonTree](#):
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> > I suppose if groups of users start abusing flagging to hide posts the mods can stamp on them.
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> Interestingly, this seems to be the mode of anti-vaxxers on facebook. I posted a simple link to a National Public Radio article outlining a scientific study that showed the Delta Covid variant was more infectious and possibly more dangerous. The anti-vaxxer in the discussion flagged it, and my post was hidden for “violating community standards”. A link from NPR about a peer reviewed scientific paper. This seems to be how anti-vaxxers are trying to shut down discussion.

Huh. I looked into flagging your post, just to see what “flagging-a-post-for-violating-community-standards” looked like, and it seems to come up as a DO NOT USE button. Makes me wonder why that button isn’t disabled (but that’s probably a question for ATMB, or Site Feedback, so I won’t ask it here).

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**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\
**Post date:** [July 14, 2021, 5:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-mordecaib/946419/70 "2021-07-14T17:42:14Z")

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On facebook, it apparently just takes one single person to flag a perfectly valid scientific link, and that cues the facebook algorithm to block and hide your post… Until presumably a human being looks at the flag, and deems that the person doing it was an idiot. This process can take weeks/months if ever.

In the meantime, antivaxxers can quickly hide valid scientific links, or anything else they do not like.

Facebook is broken, and continues to get broker.

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**Author:** ![Max\_S](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/46a35a/32.png) [@Max\_S](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Max_S)\
**Post date:** [July 14, 2021, 5:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-mordecaib/946419/71 "2021-07-14T17:44:47Z")

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> [@kaylasdad99](#):
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> Makes me wonder why that button isn’t disabled

Technical reasons. They can change the text that comes up for each option, but the options themselves are baked in to the software.

~Max

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**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\
**Post date:** [July 14, 2021, 5:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-mordecaib/946419/72 "2021-07-14T17:48:49Z")

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> [@Euphonious\_Polemic](#):
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> Facebook is broken, and continues to get broker.

I think it would be more accurate to predict that it will continue to get _brokener_.

Until it gets broker, of course…

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**Author:** ![Guinastasia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guinastasia/32/5751_2.png) [@Guinastasia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guinastasia)\
**Post date:** [July 14, 2021, 10:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-mordecaib/946419/73 "2021-07-14T22:50:17Z")

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I think the guy is headed for a meltdown – I don’t remember seeing him post much until lately, and it seems mostly to be just hostile bullshit. Last month he [went completely apeshit on me](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-redux/913349/3532) for what was a fairly minor offense, and then [threw a hissyfit](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trolls-r-us-redux/913349/3570) because I refused to rise to the bait.

He’s bonkers.

And I have no idea what he means by “ **Ed** approves of mods posting at Giraffe”. I don’t think I’ve ever heard him say that. The main policy seems to be that mods and/or admins can’t really control what people post on other boards, I believe. Some people are getting completely paranoid.

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**Author:** ![kayaker](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kayaker/32/441_2.png) [@kayaker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kayaker)\
**Post date:** [July 14, 2021, 11:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-mordecaib/946419/74 "2021-07-14T23:03:27Z")

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> [@Guinastasia](#):
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> He’s bonkers.

Yep, but those of us who are empathetic feel sorry for the poor sod.

ET: this is part of the GB pile-on right? I want to make sure I’m credited correctly, yo.

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**Author:** ![saucywench](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/85e7bf/32.png) [@saucywench](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/saucywench)\
**Post date:** [July 17, 2021, 5:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-mordecaib/946419/75 "2021-07-17T17:06:25Z")

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That was EPIC!!! I read it again in its entirety…just for fun.

So, when the tower does the same it’s venting, telling it like it is, etc.

But, when an outsider does it he’s going apeshit. Got it!

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**Author:** ![Skywatcher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skywatcher/32/254_2.png) [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)\
**Post date:** [March 29, 2022, 6:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-mordecaib/946419/76 "2022-03-29T18:06:14Z")

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Bumping because the guest of dishonor has been suspended.

> [@MordecaiB has been suspended for harassing SDMB staff](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mordecaib-has-been-suspended-for-harassing-sdmb-staff/961871):
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> MordecaiB has been suspended for three days for posting multiple rants like this one: … directed at Aspenglow and later at Puzzlegal - all in connection with a moderating issue that had already been resolved. Posters are free to take issue with SDMB moderation within reasonable limits, but when criticism becomes obsessive, as was the case here, we draw the line. This isn’t the first time MordecaiB has done this; he was previously topic banned for attacks against Hari Seldin - see: We could…

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**Author:** ![ShadowFacts](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/shadowfacts/32/2934_2.png) [@ShadowFacts](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ShadowFacts)\
**Post date:** [March 30, 2022, 12:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-mordecaib/946419/77 "2022-03-30T12:17:11Z")

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I’m not surprised. It seems like all he does is lurk around in ATMB waiting for someone to post so he can jump in to add more complaints about modding.

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**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\
**Post date:** [March 30, 2022, 1:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-mordecaib/946419/78 "2022-03-30T13:49:08Z")

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That’s not fair! Sometimes he’ll start a thread to throw shit on the mods also.

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**Author:** ![nightshadea](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/7ba0ec/32.png) [@nightshadea](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/nightshadea)\
**Post date:** [March 31, 2022, 4:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-mordecaib/946419/79 "2022-03-31T04:16:59Z")

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im surprised him and a few others are still here after the way they treated ed when he asked about what if we made the SDAB a premium thing so he could help restart the column …

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