# I Pit Mr\_Hoogly **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [July 20, 2021, 3:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-mr-hoogly/946900 "2021-07-20T15:58:38Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\ **Post date:** [July 20, 2021, 7:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-mr-hoogly/946900/21 "2021-07-20T19:29:01Z")
> [@Dr.Winston\_OBoogie](#): > > EXCEPT THAT THE DEATH RATE IS DOWN BECAUSE A WHOLE LOT OF INTELLIGENT FOLK GOT THE %&~\*ING VACCINE! Yep. It’s kind of like those folks who bitched and moaned about the money that was spent pro-actively fixing the software bugs that would have caused Y2K problems. “Why did we spend all that money fixing things? There were no problems with computers when the clocks all switched over to the year 2000!” THAT’S BECAUSE WE FIXED THE PROBLEM YOU MORONS! ---
**Author:** ![QuickSilver](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/quicksilver/32/7832_2.png) [@QuickSilver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/QuickSilver)\ **Post date:** [July 20, 2021, 7:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-mr-hoogly/946900/22 "2021-07-20T19:32:27Z")
> [@gdave](#): > > …but it’s not quite as nonsensical as that out of context snippet makes it seem. I don’t mean to be disagreeable, but it’s exactly as nonsensical as quoted when taken in context with other incoherent claims he made in that very thread. ---
**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\ **Post date:** [July 21, 2021, 8:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-mr-hoogly/946900/23 "2021-07-21T08:31:38Z")
> [@carrps](#): > > Well, I get one every year after a few Decembers when I was much younger having a flu from hell that laid me low for nearly a week each time…and made me _want_ to die. I grew a brain and got my flu shot every year after that, and I haven’t had the flu for decades. Same. Had a bad case of flu one year and made sure to get vaccinated every year thereafter, and have not had flu since. Might be a causal link, might not, but I’ve had no ill effects from it so why not? ---
**Author:** ![asahi](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/asahi/32/8693_2.png) [@asahi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/asahi)\ **Post date:** [July 21, 2021, 12:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-mr-hoogly/946900/24 "2021-07-21T12:48:21Z")
Waiter, can we have a booster seat and some crayons?! lol ---
**Author:** ![Mr\_Hoogly](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/838e76/32.png) [@Mr\_Hoogly](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mr_Hoogly)\ **Post date:** [July 21, 2021, 2:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-mr-hoogly/946900/25 "2021-07-21T14:17:19Z")
In Italy they declared this state of emergency with all young people dying and loads of other bullshit that people were afraid to come out their homes. Then they said in Britain our numbers are worse than Italy and put pictures of ambulances parked up all over the news. Wow look at all those empty ambulances parked up. Nonsense. ---
**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\ **Post date:** [July 21, 2021, 2:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-mr-hoogly/946900/26 "2021-07-21T14:24:32Z")
So your argument is “There were pictures of ambulances”? Wow. ---
**Author:** ![QuickSilver](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/quicksilver/32/7832_2.png) [@QuickSilver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/QuickSilver)\ **Post date:** [July 21, 2021, 2:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-mr-hoogly/946900/27 "2021-07-21T14:26:08Z")
> [@Mr\_Hoogly](#): > > In Italy they declared this state of emergency with all young people dying and loads of other bullshit that people were afraid to come out their homes. > Then they said in Britain our numbers are worse than Italy and put pictures of ambulances parked up all over the news. Wow look at all those empty ambulances parked up. Nonsense. Is it your position that a picture of ambulances on standby evidence that there is no pandemic to be concerned with? Based on what evidence beyond a photo you saw somewhere do you draw your conclusions? ---
**Author:** ![kitap](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/b9e5f3/32.png) [@kitap](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kitap)\ **Post date:** [July 21, 2021, 2:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-mr-hoogly/946900/28 "2021-07-21T14:51:06Z")
> [@QuickSilver](#): > > > [@Mr\_Hoogly](#): > > > > In Italy they declared this state of emergency with all young people dying and loads of other bullshit that people were afraid to come out their homes. > > Then they said in Britain our numbers are worse than Italy and put pictures of ambulances parked up all over the news. Wow look at all those empty ambulances parked up. Nonsense. > > Is it your position that a picture of ambulances on standby evidence that there is no pandemic to be concerned with? Based on what evidence beyond a photo you saw somewhere do you draw your conclusions No, I think his argument is “If I personally haven’t seen it, it doesn’t exist”. I presume he feels that way about The Grand Canyon, Tikal and Poverty Point. And you know the Sentinellese, Yanomamo and the Ainu are the same. ---
**Author:** ![Great\_Antibob](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e47c2d/32.png) [@Great\_Antibob](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Great_Antibob)\ **Post date:** [July 21, 2021, 2:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-mr-hoogly/946900/29 "2021-07-21T14:59:43Z")
> [@Gyrate](#): > > Same. Had a bad case of flu one year and made sure to get vaccinated every year thereafter, and have not had flu since. Might be a causal link, might not, but I’ve had no ill effects from it so why not? I have always gotten a flu vaccine. Still caught the flu one year but it ended up pretty mild compared to other people in my work vicinity (where . And my family didn’t catch it at all despite close contact. They’re not perfect but they do work. ---
**Author:** ![RitterSport](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rittersport/32/6326_2.png) [@RitterSport](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RitterSport)\ **Post date:** [July 21, 2021, 4:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-mr-hoogly/946900/30 "2021-07-21T16:38:00Z")
> [@kitap](#): > > No, I think his argument is… I thought his argument was “I’m an idiotic, anti-vax troll who too stupid to engage with here on the Dope, but I’ll try and kill as many people as I can with my anti-vax bullshit.” ---
**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\ **Post date:** [July 21, 2021, 4:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-mr-hoogly/946900/31 "2021-07-21T16:44:32Z")
> [@RitterSport](#): > > anti-vax troll I don’t think he’s a troll. I think he’s sincerely stupid and callous. ---
**Author:** ![QuickSilver](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/quicksilver/32/7832_2.png) [@QuickSilver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/QuickSilver)\ **Post date:** [July 21, 2021, 4:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-mr-hoogly/946900/32 "2021-07-21T16:49:38Z")
> [@Atamasama](#): > > I think he’s sincerely stupid and callous. It does seem like not only is he sincerely stupid, but aggressively and determinately so. ---
**Author:** ![RitterSport](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rittersport/32/6326_2.png) [@RitterSport](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RitterSport)\ **Post date:** [July 21, 2021, 4:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-mr-hoogly/946900/33 "2021-07-21T16:53:00Z")
What makes him trolly to me is his aggressive posting, even in the QZ. I’m amazed referenced in the OP here didn’t generate a warning or at least a note. BTW, with his reference to the “Asian flu virus”, I’ll add racist to my list of his characteristics. ---
**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\ **Post date:** [July 21, 2021, 4:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-mr-hoogly/946900/34 "2021-07-21T16:58:53Z")
To be honest, I was briefly confused by his mention of “Asian flu virus”. For a moment, I thought he was actually referring to an Asian flu virus, and comparing Covid-19 to said virus in some way. I didn’t realize at first that by those words, he meant a virus completely unrelated to the flu. ---
**Author:** ![Tfletch1](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tfletch1/32/5340_2.png) [@Tfletch1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tfletch1)\ **Post date:** [July 21, 2021, 5:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-mr-hoogly/946900/35 "2021-07-21T17:19:44Z")
> [@Atamasama](#): > > I don’t think he’s a troll. I think he’s sincerely stupid and callous. The fat camp and vacationing retiree comments in the quarantine zone are trolling, IMO. Many of the comments in the pit are pretty trolly too, IMO. But it’s the pit so I honestly don’t care. As long as he’s too busy here to fuck up threads up there like past trolls were trying to do. ---
**Author:** ![Mr\_Hoogly](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/838e76/32.png) [@Mr\_Hoogly](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mr_Hoogly)\ **Post date:** [July 21, 2021, 8:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-mr-hoogly/946900/36 "2021-07-21T20:03:40Z")
Are you stupid mate? I answered the question about the media panicking everyone ‘look at all the ambulances it must be dreadful’ and they’re just parked there doing nothing. The media and government reports does not match reality. What don’t you get about that? ---
**Author:** ![Mr\_Hoogly](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/838e76/32.png) [@Mr\_Hoogly](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mr_Hoogly)\ **Post date:** [July 21, 2021, 8:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-mr-hoogly/946900/37 "2021-07-21T20:11:35Z")
Keyboard warrior over here. I say my opinions but all you can do is slate, too much TV. ---
**Author:** ![Mr\_Hoogly](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/838e76/32.png) [@Mr\_Hoogly](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mr_Hoogly)\ **Post date:** [July 21, 2021, 8:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-mr-hoogly/946900/38 "2021-07-21T20:14:28Z")
The vaccine is not 100% safe. Fact People have unpredictable reactions to it which can be dangerous and debilitating. Fact. No trolling, these reasons are enough for any sane person to take their vaccine, and allow others to weigh their own risk. ---
**Author:** ![RitterSport](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rittersport/32/6326_2.png) [@RitterSport](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RitterSport)\ **Post date:** [July 21, 2021, 8:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-mr-hoogly/946900/39 "2021-07-21T20:16:06Z")
We agree, then, that it’s insane people who don’t get the vaccine, if they otherwise could. > [@Mr\_Hoogly](#): > > …but all you can do is slate, too much TV. I don’t know what this means. ---
**Author:** ![Mr\_Hoogly](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/838e76/32.png) [@Mr\_Hoogly](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mr_Hoogly)\ **Post date:** [July 21, 2021, 8:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-mr-hoogly/946900/40 "2021-07-21T20:17:47Z")
It ain’t the plague, that’s my point. Hysteria wins with people like you sadly. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-mr-hoogly/946900.md?page=1) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-mr-hoogly/946900.md?page=3)