# I pit Ms. Tara Reade for putting our country through this **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [May 2, 2020, 2:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-ms-tara-reade-for-putting-our-country-through-this/853020 "2020-05-02T14:46:57Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 17
**Author:** ![Linty\_Fresh](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/c5a1d2/32.png) [@Linty\_Fresh](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Linty_Fresh)\ **Post date:** [May 19, 2020, 2:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-ms-tara-reade-for-putting-our-country-through-this/853020/321 "2020-05-19T02:11:09Z")
> [@dalej42](#): > > Man, it must feel good to be so woke. You know, all kidding aside . . . It really _does!_ Once saying and doing the right things becomes a habit, life just gets a lot simpler. _And_ better. Thanks, **Dale**. I actually mean that sincerely. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\ **Post date:** [May 19, 2020, 2:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-ms-tara-reade-for-putting-our-country-through-this/853020/322 "2020-05-19T02:15:35Z")
> [@Linty\_Fresh](#): > > You know, all kidding aside . . . It really _does!_ > > Once saying and doing the right things becomes a habit, life just gets a lot simpler. _And_ better. > > Thanks, **Dale**. I actually mean that sincerely. 🙂 Which makes you even more pathetic because you would rather be totally ineffectual than actually make a difference. ---
**Author:** ![Linty\_Fresh](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/c5a1d2/32.png) [@Linty\_Fresh](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Linty_Fresh)\ **Post date:** [May 19, 2020, 2:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-ms-tara-reade-for-putting-our-country-through-this/853020/323 "2020-05-19T02:27:01Z")
> [@Czarcasm](#): > > Which makes you even more pathetic because you would rather be totally ineffectual than actually make a difference. Pathetic? Oh dear, touched a nerve, did I? I’m sorry, **Czarcasm**. I’m sorry I called you an idiot who’s prepared to throw every single value you hold dear, just for the D. I mean, it’s true, but I’m sorry I got you all bothered. Of course . . . if Biden loses in November, I guess that makes _you_ ineffectual too, doesn’t it? It all goes back to what I typed above about Wile E. Coyote and Elmer Fudd. They’re fictional characters. They have no other choice but to play their role as unpleasant losers. They can’t reflect on the past, they can’t take constructive initiative, and they can’t learn from their mistakes. _You_ exist, and you have that choice. So . . . why do you insist on playing that role? I’m serious. That’s not a rhetorical question. I’m actually curious. Do you _honestly_ believe we can’t do better as a party? And if you don’t . . . how exactly does that make you–or the Dems as a whole–better than the unwashed? ---
**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\ **Post date:** [May 19, 2020, 2:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-ms-tara-reade-for-putting-our-country-through-this/853020/324 "2020-05-19T02:35:49Z")
The question is, if Trump wins in November how will you react? You are claiming that Biden and Trump are essentially the same…but you seem to be spending the vast majority of your effort here tearing down Biden. This makes you a Republican stooge, either wittingly or unwittingly. The Republicans are the party trying to dissuade people from voting because they seem to thrive in that environment, and you seem to want the same thing. ---
**Author:** ![DoggyDunnit](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/5fc32e/32.png) [@DoggyDunnit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DoggyDunnit)\ **Post date:** [May 19, 2020, 2:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-ms-tara-reade-for-putting-our-country-through-this/853020/325 "2020-05-19T02:36:38Z")
> [@dalej42](#): > > Cool story, bro. Bring that revolution!!! There ya go, let that façade drop some. Maybe one day it’ll finally completely detach, hit the ground with a nice ‘thud!’, and you’ll no longer be in denial about your sociopathy. ---
**Author:** ![Linty\_Fresh](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/c5a1d2/32.png) [@Linty\_Fresh](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Linty_Fresh)\ **Post date:** [May 19, 2020, 2:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-ms-tara-reade-for-putting-our-country-through-this/853020/326 "2020-05-19T02:49:21Z")
> [@Czarcasm](#): > > The question is, if Trump wins in November how will you react? You are claiming that Biden and Trump are essentially the same…but you seem to be spending the vast majority of your effort here tearing down Biden. This makes you a Republican stooge, either wittingly or unwittingly. The Republicans are the party trying to dissuade people from voting because they seem to thrive in that environment, and you seem to want the same thing. I think you mean " . . .“_and_ you seem to be spending . . .” And did I say or imply that I don’t want people voting? No, I did not–quite the opposite. I advocated taking a deeper interest in politics. Did I say that Trump and Biden are the same? No, I did not. For one thing, unlike Biden and you yourself, **Czarcasm** , Trump owns it. With Trump, what you see is what you get. And if you want to try to stick the stooge label on me, be my guest. You’re wrong, though. I’m _no one’s_ fair-haired boy, and I don’t grovel. That’s _you_ talking, and you don’t get to set the tone. Stooges have a way of excusing anything, and I do mean _anything_ to grovel at the feet of the powerful–or at least, whom _they_ perceive as powerful. Sound familiar? And my question stands. _Why_, **Czarcasm**? Just . . . _why_? ---
**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\ **Post date:** [May 19, 2020, 2:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-ms-tara-reade-for-putting-our-country-through-this/853020/327 "2020-05-19T02:53:42Z")
> [@Linty\_Fresh](#): > > And my question stands. _Why_, **Czarcasm**? Just . . . _why_? Your premise is invalid, therefore your question is nonsensical. ---
**Author:** ![Linty\_Fresh](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/c5a1d2/32.png) [@Linty\_Fresh](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Linty_Fresh)\ **Post date:** [May 19, 2020, 3:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-ms-tara-reade-for-putting-our-country-through-this/853020/328 "2020-05-19T03:00:24Z")
> [@Czarcasm](#): > > Your premise is invalid, therefore your question is nonsensical. Meh, fair enough. So in addition to being a deluded, unpleasant harassment apologist, I guess you’re an unpleasant loser and a weakling who can dish it out but can’t take it. Good night! 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![xenophon41](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/xenophon41/32/253_2.png) [@xenophon41](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/xenophon41)\ **Post date:** [May 19, 2020, 3:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-ms-tara-reade-for-putting-our-country-through-this/853020/329 "2020-05-19T03:04:12Z")
What a pathetic igno-arro piece of shit you are, **Linty**. Fuck the fuck off. STFU. FOAGF. GTFO. Et fucking cetera. You’re a troll. You’re not worth mounting a special argument against because it’s a basic argument everyone with any sense has already made about ‘pretty fucking good’ versus ‘ABS0LUTE FUCKING EVIL’. Just piss off. ---
**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\ **Post date:** [May 19, 2020, 3:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-ms-tara-reade-for-putting-our-country-through-this/853020/330 "2020-05-19T03:05:15Z")
> [@Linty\_Fresh](#): > > Meh, fair enough. So in addition to being a deluded, unpleasant harassment apologist, I guess you’re an unpleasant loser and a weakling who can dish it out but can’t take it. > > Good night! 🙂 OMG!! You got the last word in, took the ball and went home, and that makes you the winner! I are soooo chagrinned. :rolleyes: ---
**Author:** ![Guest-starring\_Id](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guest-starring_id/32/21736_2.png) [@Guest-starring\_Id](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guest-starring_Id)\ **Post date:** [May 19, 2020, 4:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-ms-tara-reade-for-putting-our-country-through-this/853020/331 "2020-05-19T04:36:24Z")
> [@DoggyDunnit](#): > > There ya go, let that façade drop some. Maybe one day it’ll finally completely detach, hit the ground with a nice ‘thud!’, and you’ll no longer be in denial about your sociopathy. Nothing really too socipathic about what **dalej42** has said, so you can also now completely go fuck-off with the trolling. ---
**Author:** ![DoggyDunnit](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/5fc32e/32.png) [@DoggyDunnit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DoggyDunnit)\ **Post date:** [May 19, 2020, 5:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-ms-tara-reade-for-putting-our-country-through-this/853020/332 "2020-05-19T05:43:07Z")
> [@Guest-starring\_Id](#): > > Nothing really too socipathic about what **dalej42** has said, so you can also now completely go fuck-off with the trolling. The fact you don’t see his complete dismissal of someone much worse off than he is as sociopathic speaks volumes. ---
**Author:** ![Linty\_Fresh](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/c5a1d2/32.png) [@Linty\_Fresh](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Linty_Fresh)\ **Post date:** [May 19, 2020, 10:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-ms-tara-reade-for-putting-our-country-through-this/853020/333 "2020-05-19T10:57:54Z")
> [@Czarcasm](#): > > OMG!! You got the last word in, took the ball and went home, and that makes you the winner! > I are soooo chagrinned. :rolleyes: Err, no **Czarcasm**. I really had to go to bed. I don’t know what time zone you’re in, but here on the east coast, it was 11:00. I work full time and have online coursework to go through in the evening. This board is a luxury and has to take a back seat to all that. You’re a deluded, unpleasant harassment apologist, and you’re an unpleasant loser and a weakling who can dish it out but can’t take it . . . and you misspelled “chagrined.” THAT makes me the winner. Well . . . up and at 'em, **Czarcasm**. You’ve got a busy day planned, being retired and all, I’m sure. Let’s hit that ground running together. First step is breakfast. Just remember that you are what you eat, so enjoy that piping hot bowl of miserable old bastard. 🆒 ---
**Author:** ![Skywatcher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skywatcher/32/254_2.png) [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)\ **Post date:** [May 19, 2020, 12:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-ms-tara-reade-for-putting-our-country-through-this/853020/334 "2020-05-19T12:26:16Z")
Rather than whining on message boards, those who are really against sociopaths should be gearing up to vote for the only candidate who actually has a chance to defeat the big, orange sociopath currently occupying the White House. ---
**Author:** ![Linty\_Fresh](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/c5a1d2/32.png) [@Linty\_Fresh](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Linty_Fresh)\ **Post date:** [May 19, 2020, 12:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-ms-tara-reade-for-putting-our-country-through-this/853020/335 "2020-05-19T12:38:31Z")
> [@Skywatcher](#): > > Rather than whining on message boards, those who are really against sociopaths should be gearing up to vote for the only candidate who actually has a chance to defeat the big, orange sociopath currently occupying the White House. That attitude got us eight years of the Clintons followed by eight years of Dubya. Can we as a party do better than Biden? You’d better hope to hell so, **Skywatcher** , because Trump isn’t the cause of anything you’re seeing today. Trump is the symptom, and he’s just the beginning. He’s the icing on the bullshit cake. So if you don’t want to be choking down that cake for the next 20 years, you’d better wake up. ---
**Author:** ![asahi](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/asahi/32/8693_2.png) [@asahi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/asahi)\ **Post date:** [May 19, 2020, 12:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-ms-tara-reade-for-putting-our-country-through-this/853020/336 "2020-05-19T12:44:49Z")
> [@Linty\_Fresh](#): > > That attitude got us eight years of the Clintons followed by eight years of Dubya. > > Can we as a party do better than Biden? You’d better hope to hell so, **Skywatcher** , because Trump isn’t the cause of anything you’re seeing today. Trump is the symptom, and he’s just the beginning. He’s the icing on the bullshit cake. So if you don’t want to be choking down that cake for the next 20 years, you’d better wake up. What should we do now - vote for Trump? Not vote at all and let Trump win? You may have said it already, but what specifically would you like anti-Trumpers to do at this point? ---
**Author:** ![Linty\_Fresh](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/c5a1d2/32.png) [@Linty\_Fresh](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Linty_Fresh)\ **Post date:** [May 19, 2020, 12:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-ms-tara-reade-for-putting-our-country-through-this/853020/337 "2020-05-19T12:53:04Z")
> [@asahi](#): > > What should we do now - vote for Trump? Not vote at all and let Trump win? > > You may have said it already, but what specifically would you like anti-Trumpers to do at this point? I have said it before. There’s nothing to be done at this late date. Not now. We took our eye off the ball in 2016 after having the answer to us handed on a silver platter. Worse, we refused to learn our lesson from 2016 to 2020 and made the same damned mistakes and put up the same damned losers and turned our back on the same damned wronged women that the Democrats were supposed to be sheltering and protecting to begin with. Biden will almost certainly lose in November. I say that after having examined the history of elections, and let me tell you something: You don’t beat an incumbent president with a candidate like Biden. But even if he did win, so what? Is this the guy who’s going to pilot the ship out of the storm? Is he the guy who’s going to bring back bipartisanship to a divided congress? When you think of the country’s future, are you going to sleep better knowing that Uncle Joe is standing watch over the field of government when you sleep? I wouldn’t be so pissed, but we were handed the damn answer in Obama. I know we don’t have an Obama at the moment. My question is why not? Why couldn’t we repeat the process? It’s like being handed the keys to heaven, watching the pearly gates open, and thinking to ourselves . . . “Nahhhhh, I’d rather live in Newark.” ---
**Author:** ![Skywatcher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skywatcher/32/254_2.png) [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)\ **Post date:** [May 19, 2020, 1:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-ms-tara-reade-for-putting-our-country-through-this/853020/338 "2020-05-19T13:17:09Z")
> [@Linty\_Fresh](#): > > Can we as a party do better than Biden? Too late for that this year. As Bernie himself said, not voting for Biden in November is irresponsible! ---
**Author:** ![Skywatcher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skywatcher/32/254_2.png) [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)\ **Post date:** [May 19, 2020, 1:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-ms-tara-reade-for-putting-our-country-through-this/853020/339 "2020-05-19T13:23:10Z")
> [@Linty\_Fresh](#): > > You don’t beat an incumbent president with a candidate like Biden. [Trump is not your normal incumbent.](https://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=22309395&postcount=314) ---
**Author:** ![Guest-starring\_Id](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guest-starring_id/32/21736_2.png) [@Guest-starring\_Id](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guest-starring_Id)\ **Post date:** [May 19, 2020, 2:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-ms-tara-reade-for-putting-our-country-through-this/853020/340 "2020-05-19T14:31:03Z")
> [@DoggyDunnit](#): > > The fact you don’t see his complete dismissal of someone much worse off than he is as sociopathic speaks volumes. Thanks, troll, for illuminating such sacreligous blindness. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-ms-tara-reade-for-putting-our-country-through-this/853020.md?page=16) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-ms-tara-reade-for-putting-our-country-through-this/853020.md?page=18)