# I pit Ms. Tara Reade for putting our country through this **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [May 2, 2020, 2:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-ms-tara-reade-for-putting-our-country-through-this/853020 "2020-05-02T14:46:57Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 6
**Author:** ![asahi](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/asahi/32/8693_2.png) [@asahi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/asahi)\ **Post date:** [May 4, 2020, 11:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-ms-tara-reade-for-putting-our-country-through-this/853020/101 "2020-05-04T11:57:39Z")
> [@foolsguinea](#): > > What kind of response even \*is \*that? > > More like: Bernie Sanders, Elizabeth Warren, Kamala Harris if she weren’t defending her Senate seat, Julián Castro, Andrew Yang, Jay Inslee, even Kirsten Gillibrand. What is hard about this? Oh, so people that the worst candidate in the world already defeated. Shit, you fucking Bernie-crush nutjobs don’t get it, do you? I’m really beginning to think you were grown on a Russian troll farm. ---
**Author:** ![asahi](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/asahi/32/8693_2.png) [@asahi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/asahi)\ **Post date:** [May 4, 2020, 12:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-ms-tara-reade-for-putting-our-country-through-this/853020/102 "2020-05-04T12:02:25Z")
> [@foolsguinea](#): > > Hahahahahahaha no. > > I live in Missouri, a state the Democrats have not only abandoned, but curse at for not being coastal & urban, even as Claire McCaskill is brought on Morning Joe to represent…something? I assume that Biden not only won’t get our electoral votes, he won’t try. > > Also, I’ve been too deep inside the Democratic Party to believe its ideology of anti-ideology can ever save us. > > I’m most probably voting Green. Kansas City now has Sputnik Russian propaganda on the air between 6 and 9 am. Check it out. > **[Shows](http://www.kcxl.com/shows.html)** ---
**Author:** ![Ludovic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/7ab992/32.png) [@Ludovic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ludovic)\ **Post date:** [May 4, 2020, 12:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-ms-tara-reade-for-putting-our-country-through-this/853020/103 "2020-05-04T12:21:03Z")
> [@Guest-starring\_Id](#): > > So the democratic party somehow actually disgusts you enough to vote third party and essentially for Trump. Oooooooo ideology of anti-ideology. Got it. Normally I would quibble, but I’ll give that a pass considering the Green party was backed by Putin, so you’d be voting just as much for Putin as you would if you’d voted for Trump. ---
**Author:** ![Guest-starring\_Id](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guest-starring_id/32/21736_2.png) [@Guest-starring\_Id](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guest-starring_Id)\ **Post date:** [May 4, 2020, 1:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-ms-tara-reade-for-putting-our-country-through-this/853020/104 "2020-05-04T13:55:30Z")
^ a general “you”, sure. ---
**Author:** ![RickJay](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/bb73d2/32.png) [@RickJay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RickJay)\ **Post date:** [May 4, 2020, 2:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-ms-tara-reade-for-putting-our-country-through-this/853020/105 "2020-05-04T14:07:24Z")
> [@Hilarity\_N.Suze](#): > > Wasn’t Hilary pounding The Donald in the polls, four years ago? Not really, no. She usually had a slim lead, but she was never kicking the shit out of him. The election was always in doubt. ---
**Author:** ![MortSahlFan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/3bc359/32.png) [@MortSahlFan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MortSahlFan)\ **Post date:** [May 4, 2020, 2:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-ms-tara-reade-for-putting-our-country-through-this/853020/106 "2020-05-04T14:15:40Z")
People are going to blame their marriages on Russia (if they haven’t already) ---
**Author:** ![Jackmannii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jackmannii/32/311_2.png) [@Jackmannii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jackmannii)\ **Post date:** [May 4, 2020, 2:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-ms-tara-reade-for-putting-our-country-through-this/853020/107 "2020-05-04T14:23:04Z")
> [@RickJay](#): > > (Hillary) usually had a slim lead, but she was never kicking the shit out of him. The election was always in doubt. I dunno, [it looks like Hillary is a shoo-in](http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/clinton-vaults-double-digit-lead-boosted-broad-disapproval/story?id=42993821). \*"Hillary Clinton has vaulted to a double-digit advantage in the inaugural ABC News 2016 election tracking poll, boosted by broad disapproval of Donald Trump on two controversial issues: His treatment of women and his reluctance to endorse the election’s legitimacy. Likely voters by a vast 69-24 percent disapprove of Trump’s response to questions about his treatment of women… All told, Clinton leads Trump by 12 percentage points among likely voters, 50 to 38 percent, in the national survey, her highest support and his lowest to date in ABC News and ABC News/Washington Post polls."\* ---
**Author:** ![Ann\_Hedonia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ann_hedonia/32/319_2.png) [@Ann\_Hedonia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ann_Hedonia)\ **Post date:** [May 4, 2020, 3:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-ms-tara-reade-for-putting-our-country-through-this/853020/108 "2020-05-04T15:28:21Z")
In a move reminiscent of Robert Mueller’s fake accuser, Reade canceled a Fox News interview with Chris Wallace. > **[Tara Reade backs out on planned interview with Chris Wallace](https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2020/5/2/1942146/-Tara-Reade-backs-out-on-planned-interview-with-Chris-Wallace)** > > Surprised no one’s mentioned this yet, but Tara Reade made what can best be described as a curious move late yesterday. Apparently she’d been in talks to give her first on-camera interview since claiming Joe Biden sexually assaulted her—with Chris... I guess she figured that the Trump channel would be a great softball outlet for pushing her ill-thought out and inconsistent smear job. Then someone probably tipped her off that Wallace is almost actually a real journalist and not a total Trump shill. So now she’s scared, she’s not ready…acting like every high profile scammer ever when the game falls apart. ---
**Author:** ![Ann\_Hedonia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ann_hedonia/32/319_2.png) [@Ann\_Hedonia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ann_Hedonia)\ **Post date:** [May 4, 2020, 3:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-ms-tara-reade-for-putting-our-country-through-this/853020/109 "2020-05-04T15:30:44Z")
In a move reminiscent of Robert Mueller’s fake accuser, Reade canceled a Fox News interview with Chris Wallace. > **[Tara Reade backs out on planned interview with Chris Wallace](https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2020/5/2/1942146/-Tara-Reade-backs-out-on-planned-interview-with-Chris-Wallace)** > > Surprised no one’s mentioned this yet, but Tara Reade made what can best be described as a curious move late yesterday. Apparently she’d been in talks to give her first on-camera interview since claiming Joe Biden sexually assaulted her—with Chris... I guess she figured that the Trump channel would be a great softball outlet for pushing her ill-thought out and inconsistent smear job. Then someone probably tipped her off that Wallace is almost actually a real journalist and not a total Trump shill. So now she’s scared, she’s not ready…acting like every high profile scammer ever when the game falls apart. ---
**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\ **Post date:** [May 4, 2020, 4:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-ms-tara-reade-for-putting-our-country-through-this/853020/110 "2020-05-04T16:07:29Z")
> [@Hilarity\_N.Suze](#): > > I think we need a short period of kind of a reverse amnesty where we say, okay, is there ANYBODY who committed a sexual offense on you in the past, anytime in the past before MeToo made it less threatening\* and you didn’t report it because you knew you wouldn’t be believed/he (or she, I guess) was too much more powerful, s/he was too scary, but the situation has changed? Report this person NOW. Do not wait until they run or get elected. > > Because that’s my problem, not just with Reade but with Ford too. How can anyone possibly investigate something that was only ever going to be he said/she said at the time, and decades later expect to find the absolute truth? > > Press charges now, or shut up. > > \*If it did An amnesty from _what_? Women who come forward with allegations aren’t subject to any legal penalty (except, in extremely rare circumstances, something like “filing a false police report”, or whatever, but that’s even harder to prove than the rape charges themselves). The penalties they suffer are assigned in the court of public opinion, and that court doesn’t recognize declarations of amnesty. If you just mean that public opinion should change such that women feel comfortable coming forward with their stories, then yes, of course that should change, but it shouldn’t change just for a brief period; it should change _forever_. ---
**Author:** ![Ann\_Hedonia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ann_hedonia/32/319_2.png) [@Ann\_Hedonia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ann_Hedonia)\ **Post date:** [May 4, 2020, 5:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-ms-tara-reade-for-putting-our-country-through-this/853020/111 "2020-05-04T17:15:28Z")
Wow, sorry about the dupe post. This is a new one on me. I learned a long time ago that if the board times out when I try to post I shouldn’t try again because the post will be there once I can access the board again. Which is what I did at around 11:30 today, and I am really puzzled by the duplicate. ---
**Author:** ![Hilarity\_N.Suze](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hilarity_n.suze/32/6223_2.png) [@Hilarity\_N.Suze](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hilarity_N.Suze)\ **Post date:** [May 4, 2020, 7:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-ms-tara-reade-for-putting-our-country-through-this/853020/112 "2020-05-04T19:13:04Z")
> [@Chronos](#): > > An amnesty from _what_? Women who come forward with allegations aren’t subject to any legal penalty (except, in extremely rare circumstances, something like “filing a false police report”, or whatever, but that’s even harder to prove than the rape charges themselves). The penalties they suffer are assigned in the court of public opinion, and that court doesn’t recognize declarations of amnesty. If you just mean that public opinion should change such that women feel comfortable coming forward with their stories, then yes, of course that should change, but it shouldn’t change just for a brief period; it should change _forever_. This is why I said “reverse amnesty.” The allegations could be brought forward and they’re now on the record, as opposed to trotting them out at times when said allegations can be viewed as politically suspect. ---
**Author:** ![TimfromNapa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/d26b3c/32.png) [@TimfromNapa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TimfromNapa)\ **Post date:** [May 4, 2020, 8:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-ms-tara-reade-for-putting-our-country-through-this/853020/113 "2020-05-04T20:17:31Z")
> [@Unreconstructed\_Man](#): > > Did you feel the same about Christine Ford when she came forward with _her_ decades old allegation on the eve of Brett Kavanaugh’s nomination to the Supreme Court? Because, if not, it kinda seems like you’re more interested in playing politics and using #MeToo as a shield than actually sticking up for survivors. I, for one, did not like Brett Kavanaugh as a Supreme Court appointee. I liked less Ms Ford’s flimsy allegation of sexual assault by him. I don’t play politics where that business is concerned. I do feel that more time should have been given for more women to come forward, just as I am open to more women coming forward with allegations against Biden. My knee-jerk reaction to these isolated accounts of sexual wrong-doing that come out of nowhere so many decades down the road is cold skepticism. Memories can be faulty. ---
**Author:** ![RickJay](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/bb73d2/32.png) [@RickJay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RickJay)\ **Post date:** [May 4, 2020, 8:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-ms-tara-reade-for-putting-our-country-through-this/853020/114 "2020-05-04T20:31:29Z")
> [@Jackmannii](#): > > I dunno, [it looks like Hillary is a shoo-in](http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/clinton-vaults-double-digit-lead-boosted-broad-disapproval/story?id=42993821). Sorry, ONE POLL? No, that’s now how this stuff works. No one believes one poll. That’s bananas. On the day this poll was announced, October 23, Clinton was maybe five or six points ahead according to the polls (in fact, it was likely more like 3.5 to 4) _and that was actually one of her high water marks_. Twelve points, though, is bananas. The ABC poll was a ludicrous outlier. You have to aggregate and adjust for ALL the polls. ---
**Author:** ![TimfromNapa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/d26b3c/32.png) [@TimfromNapa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TimfromNapa)\ **Post date:** [May 4, 2020, 8:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-ms-tara-reade-for-putting-our-country-through-this/853020/115 "2020-05-04T20:36:06Z")
> [@Ukulele\_Ike](#): > > there is something you said that I might challenge. America sometimes loves its crotchety old potty mouthed Presidents. Remember how the country was waxing nostalgically about Harry Truman back in the 70s? ---
**Author:** ![Organism](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/eb8c5e/32.png) [@Organism](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Organism)\ **Post date:** [May 4, 2020, 9:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-ms-tara-reade-for-putting-our-country-through-this/853020/116 "2020-05-04T21:07:47Z")
All the creepy old misogynist fucks who might read the words “creepy old misogynist fucks” and think they’re the topic of discussion re: this line of discussion should know that the world will be a better place without them. ---
**Author:** ![BlankSlate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/blankslate/32/80_2.png) [@BlankSlate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BlankSlate)\ **Post date:** [May 4, 2020, 9:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-ms-tara-reade-for-putting-our-country-through-this/853020/117 "2020-05-04T21:20:39Z")
Meet me in the kitchen backwards sunset mellows the worms, or so I’ve heard. Kinichiwa paddles the canoe but camber is not felicity. ---
**Author:** ![wolfpup](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wolfpup/32/10618_2.png) [@wolfpup](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wolfpup)\ **Post date:** [May 4, 2020, 10:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-ms-tara-reade-for-putting-our-country-through-this/853020/118 "2020-05-04T22:12:22Z")
> [@TimfromNapa](#): > > I, for one, did not like Brett Kavanaugh as a Supreme Court appointee. I liked less Ms Ford’s flimsy allegation of sexual assault by him. I don’t play politics where that business is concerned. I do feel that more time should have been given for more women to come forward, just as I am open to more women coming forward with allegations against Biden. My knee-jerk reaction to these isolated accounts of sexual wrong-doing that come out of nowhere so many decades down the road is cold skepticism. Memories can be faulty. If I’m biased on these issues because of political leanings, it must be subconscious because I try hard to be objective. I found nothing about Christine Ford’s testimony to be “flimsy”. The words that come to mind include one that is often applied to survivors: courageous – knowing she would facing interrogation on national TV by a largely Republican and hostile committee – and words like “credible” and “articulate”. In contrast to Kavanaugh, who simply had a fucking meltdown, and that alone should have disqualified him as emotionally unfit for the job. And his claim that he and his family “prayed for” Christine Ford – fucking lying hypocrite. And I am fucking sick and tired of hearing about these Tara Reade allegations. She has more versions of her story than Heinz has varieties. They should be published in a fiction collection called “The Collected Works of Tara Reade”. ---
**Author:** ![Siam\_Sam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/d78d45/32.png) [@Siam\_Sam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Siam_Sam)\ **Post date:** [May 4, 2020, 10:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-ms-tara-reade-for-putting-our-country-through-this/853020/119 "2020-05-04T22:24:10Z")
The Bernie nutjobs are like chickens running around with their head cut off. They don’t understand yet that they are dead, so flop around in a futile manner. ---
**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\ **Post date:** [May 4, 2020, 10:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-ms-tara-reade-for-putting-our-country-through-this/853020/120 "2020-05-04T22:55:59Z")
Ms. Ford’s allegations against Kavanaugh might, by themselves, have been flimsy. But then Kavanaugh went and, in his “defense”, confirmed them. “It can’t have been me! I was too busy getting drunk while underaged to rape anyone! And I was too busy studying to get drunk! And it must have been on a weekend, because I never had parties on weekdays, and to prove it, here’s my old calendar which shows a party on a weekday right around the time she said it happened! And you can ask any of my friends, who have all fled the country to avoid prosecution for their parts in the rapes that never happened!”. And how the heck would “more time be given” without the first victim stepping forward? [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-ms-tara-reade-for-putting-our-country-through-this/853020.md?page=5) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-ms-tara-reade-for-putting-our-country-through-this/853020.md?page=7)