# I pit my religious upbringing for the sexual damage it's caused **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [December 14, 2012, 1:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-my-religious-upbringing-for-the-sexual-damage-its-caused/643981 "2012-12-14T01:18:24Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 5
**Author:** ![colander](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/e8c25b/32.png) [@colander](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/colander)\ **Post date:** [December 16, 2012, 8:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-my-religious-upbringing-for-the-sexual-damage-its-caused/643981/81 "2012-12-16T20:56:18Z")
> [@VinylTurnip](#): > > Hmm. So what are these millions of Spanish women doing to masturbate? Sitting on clothes dryers? In fact, clothes dryers are not very common in Spain. Most Spanish use clothespins to suspend themselves by their nipples on their _tendederos._ More seriously, external stimulation (manual, humping a couch cushion, turbulent trolley rides, the list goes on) is actually a significantly more common method of female masturbation than vaginal penetration is, so the OP needn’t fear being unusual on that account. ---
**Author:** ![kanicbird](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/5f8ce5/32.png) [@kanicbird](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kanicbird)\ **Post date:** [December 16, 2012, 9:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-my-religious-upbringing-for-the-sexual-damage-its-caused/643981/82 "2012-12-16T21:11:27Z")
It is so horrible what parents inflict on their children in ‘just trying to do what is best for them’ and so many are so damaged. I am very sorry, but glad you have found out that there is help and I hope you can enjoy the wonders of sex, which I do believe God blesses. Peace ---
**Author:** ![Wesley\_Clark](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wesley_clark/32/20581_2.png) [@Wesley\_Clark](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wesley_Clark)\ **Post date:** [December 16, 2012, 10:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-my-religious-upbringing-for-the-sexual-damage-its-caused/643981/83 "2012-12-16T22:14:01Z")
> [@cmyk](#): > > Kickstart My Vagina. lol ---
**Author:** ![Nava](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/da6949/32.png) [@Nava](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Nava)\ **Post date:** [December 17, 2012, 3:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-my-religious-upbringing-for-the-sexual-damage-its-caused/643981/84 "2012-12-17T03:54:29Z")
> [@VinylTurnip](#): > > Hmm. So what are these millions of Spanish women doing to masturbate? Sitting on clothes dryers? > [@colander](#): > > In fact, clothes dryers are not very common in Spain. Most Spanish use clothespins to suspend themselves by their nipples on their _tendederos._ > > More seriously, external stimulation (manual, humping a couch cushion, turbulent trolley rides, the list goes on) is actually a significantly more common method of female masturbation than vaginal penetration is, so the OP needn’t fear being unusual on that account. And for some of us there is not even a need for external stimulation; mental images and muscle clenching do the job most of the time. Clothespins on nipples sounds painful as well as kind of difficult. Ouch. ---
**Author:** ![flyleaf33](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/71e660/32.png) [@flyleaf33](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/flyleaf33)\ **Post date:** [June 2, 2016, 4:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-my-religious-upbringing-for-the-sexual-damage-its-caused/643981/85 "2016-06-02T04:31:25Z")
Hi wind, Thank you for sharing your story. I am experiencing very similar issues! Because of pain that I’ve experienced, I’ve avoided a lot of normal things like tampons and regular gyno exams. I’m finally trying again to visit one this summer, and talk about my concerns and hopefully find some answers. I also was raised with a very strict upbringing. A lot of confusing messages that I’m still clearly carrying in my body. I hope you are finding some healing. Would love to hear how you are doing now. ---
**Author:** ![Baker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/bb73d2/32.png) [@Baker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Baker)\ **Post date:** [June 2, 2016, 7:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-my-religious-upbringing-for-the-sexual-damage-its-caused/643981/86 "2016-06-02T07:27:37Z")
flyleaf, you may not have noticed, but the thread you replied to is four years old, so it’s unlikely there will be any responses from the OP. ---
**Author:** ![BubbaDog](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bubbadog/32/333_2.png) [@BubbaDog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BubbaDog)\ **Post date:** [June 2, 2016, 1:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-my-religious-upbringing-for-the-sexual-damage-its-caused/643981/87 "2016-06-02T13:01:21Z")
> [@Baker](#): > > flyleaf, you may not have noticed, but the thread you replied to is four years old, so it’s unlikely there will be any responses from the OP. Wind is still a frequent poster. She may recognize this thread. She should come back and revisit it just to see that the majority of this thread’s hijackers have been invited to never come back. **flyleaf33** - hope your exam is painless and gives you a good health report. ---
**Author:** ![Lasciel](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/e79b87/32.png) [@Lasciel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lasciel)\ **Post date:** [June 2, 2016, 10:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-my-religious-upbringing-for-the-sexual-damage-its-caused/643981/88 "2016-06-02T22:31:09Z")
I was gonna say, \*\*Wind \*\*is still around pretty consistently, unlike all of the lovely commenters upthread who got themselves uninvited pretty solidly as a bunch. That’s always edifying to see a whole slew of banned people making idiots of themselves in a single thread like that. Good luck, \*\*flyleaf \*\*- I’m with you and \*\*Wind \*\*on the upbringing making things really difficult in lots of ways that I don’t think doctors are generally very savvy about. If you don’t find a good match at first, keep trying til you find someone who takes you seriously (I’m still looking for myself - it’s a process.) Good luck! ---
**Author:** ![kanicbird](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/5f8ce5/32.png) [@kanicbird](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kanicbird)\ **Post date:** [June 2, 2016, 11:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-my-religious-upbringing-for-the-sexual-damage-its-caused/643981/89 "2016-06-02T23:28:34Z")
> [@The\_wind\_of\_my\_soul](#): > > … But if I’m right, then I pit my parents and my religious upbringing for taking this simple pleasure away from me. Join with the quire of every circumcised male > [@](#): > > But to end on a positive note, I am very grateful for discovering this condition, because I also discovered that vaginal dilation kits are supposed to help with this. Glad there is a viable solution for our thus hurt sisters, now pray for the brothers who suffer such sexual hurt. ---
**Author:** ![andros](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/e480ec/32.png) [@andros](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/andros)\ **Post date:** [June 3, 2016, 12:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-my-religious-upbringing-for-the-sexual-damage-its-caused/643981/90 "2016-06-03T00:10:54Z")
:rolleyes: Dude. I knew **Jack Dean Tyler**. I posted with **Jack Dean Tyler**. And **kanicbird**? You’re no **Jack DeanTyler**. Also, you’re wrong. Also, your words are stupid. Also, “choir.” ---
**Author:** ![Voyager](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/voyager/32/133_2.png) [@Voyager](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Voyager)\ **Post date:** [June 3, 2016, 12:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-my-religious-upbringing-for-the-sexual-damage-its-caused/643981/91 "2016-06-03T00:11:50Z")
> [@kanicbird](#): > > Join with the quire of every circumcised male Join with the [manuscript?](https://www.google.com/search?q=define+quire&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8) And if I had any more pleasure I would plotz. So don’t trivialize the real problems of these poor women, okay? ---
**Author:** ![Drunky\_Smurf](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/drunky_smurf/32/449_2.png) [@Drunky\_Smurf](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Drunky_Smurf)\ **Post date:** [June 3, 2016, 1:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-my-religious-upbringing-for-the-sexual-damage-its-caused/643981/92 "2016-06-03T01:24:34Z")
> [@kanicbird](#): > > Join with the quire of every circumcised male For real my brothers and sisters. In tales of ye olden days the minstrels doth sing that I had a 11" donger, a mighty beast indeed, and then yonder Warlock didth taketh away mine glory. Now I only have a 10 7/8" donger. Oh how cruel tis be when maidens doth laugh at my shame. ☹ ---
**Author:** ![Lobohan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lobohan/32/79_2.png) [@Lobohan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lobohan)\ **Post date:** [June 3, 2016, 1:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-my-religious-upbringing-for-the-sexual-damage-its-caused/643981/93 "2016-06-03T01:28:57Z")
> [@Drunky\_Smurf](#): > > For real my brothers and sisters. In tales of ye olden days the minstrels doth sing that I had a 11" donger, a mighty beast indeed, and then yonder Warlock didth taketh away mine glory. Now I only have a 10 7/8" donger. Oh how cruel tis be when maidens doth laugh at my shame. ☹ Obviously inches were way shorter in ye olden days. ---
**Author:** ![TroutMan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/troutman/32/6721_2.png) [@TroutMan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TroutMan)\ **Post date:** [June 3, 2016, 1:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-my-religious-upbringing-for-the-sexual-damage-its-caused/643981/94 "2016-06-03T01:37:17Z")
What about the declawed cats? Won’t someone think of the declawed cats??? ---
**Author:** ![Drunky\_Smurf](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/drunky_smurf/32/449_2.png) [@Drunky\_Smurf](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Drunky_Smurf)\ **Post date:** [June 3, 2016, 3:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-my-religious-upbringing-for-the-sexual-damage-its-caused/643981/95 "2016-06-03T15:01:17Z")
Declawed cats are a sad thing. When a declawed cat goes to fist another cat the pleasure is greatly reduced. Or so I’ve heard. ---
**Author:** ![watchwolf49](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/e9c0ed/32.png) [@watchwolf49](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/watchwolf49)\ **Post date:** [June 4, 2016, 2:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-my-religious-upbringing-for-the-sexual-damage-its-caused/643981/96 "2016-06-04T14:44:16Z")
This thread has the finest collection of banned posters I’ve ever seen, truly museum quality. I’m not seeing the religion angle here. Sounds like a physiological issue, such that even if the OP was raised Wiccan she’d still have this problems. As a man a ancient years, I’ve been led to believe this is a common problem with post-menopausal women, perhaps there are treatment options for you other than avoiding my company. No cats were harmed during the creation of this posting ---
**Author:** ![oft\_wears\_hats](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/7993a0/32.png) [@oft\_wears\_hats](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/oft_wears_hats)\ **Post date:** [June 4, 2016, 10:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-my-religious-upbringing-for-the-sexual-damage-its-caused/643981/97 "2016-06-04T22:32:38Z")
Just popped in to endorse this pitting. Whether sexual repression has an empirical link to vaginismus or not, it doesn’t change the fact that repression causes way more problems than it solves. It also doesn’t change the fact that the OP’s suffering is real. I hope you’re doing well, **Wind**. Some quick resources (spoiler-boxed due to NSFW): [SPOILER][Laci Green](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z0SXaoZobd8) does a good video on painful sex. Second spoiler tag, since Erika Moen’s site is very NSFW:[Oh Joy Sex Toy on Vaginismus](http://www.ohjoysextoy.com/vaginismus/)[/SPOILER] > [@kanicbird](#): > > Join with the quire of every circumcised male > > Glad there is a viable solution for our thus hurt sisters, now pray for the brothers who suffer such sexual hurt. I was going to reply to this, but Bam Boo Gut ninja’d me by three years: > [@Bam\_Boo\_Gut](#): > > Well, does your dick hurt when you wank? That might be comparable maybe. > > Geez :smack: I’m no fan of circumcision, but it’s not comparable to vaginismus. I’m sure you meant no harm, **kanicbird** , but bringing it up here is crass and detracts from the OP’s suffering. ---
**Author:** ![Bruce\_Wayne](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/22d042/32.png) [@Bruce\_Wayne](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bruce_Wayne)\ **Post date:** [June 4, 2016, 11:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-my-religious-upbringing-for-the-sexual-damage-its-caused/643981/98 "2016-06-04T23:18:18Z")
[This](https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=nBeG_A6m_zs) guy from the _Predator_ should have taken his girlfriend to church more often. ---
**Author:** ![Count\_Blucher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/c5a1d2/32.png) [@Count\_Blucher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Count_Blucher)\ **Post date:** [June 4, 2016, 11:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-my-religious-upbringing-for-the-sexual-damage-its-caused/643981/99 "2016-06-04T23:26:31Z")
> [@Bruce\_Wayne](#): > > [This](https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=nBeG_A6m_zs) guy from the _Predator_ should have taken his girlfriend to church more often. No need. Most have Baptismal Fonts already, but thanks anyway! “None 'o that now, none ‘o that. It’s a bold sinful man y’are. And who taught you to be playin’ patty-fingers in the Holy Water…?” ---
**Author:** ![AngelSoft](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/angelsoft/32/440_2.png) [@AngelSoft](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AngelSoft)\ **Post date:** [June 5, 2016, 1:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-my-religious-upbringing-for-the-sexual-damage-its-caused/643981/100 "2016-06-05T01:32:16Z")
I know this is an old thread but I instantly thought of the online comic that did a strip on this exact thing. Link below since clearly NSFW [Oh Joy Sex Toy](http://www.ohjoysextoy.com/vaginismus/) Her comics are excellent and often educational as well and there’s no hesitation to talk about or draw exactly what’s needed for the topic at hand 🙂 [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-my-religious-upbringing-for-the-sexual-damage-its-caused/643981.md?page=4) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-my-religious-upbringing-for-the-sexual-damage-its-caused/643981.md?page=6)