# I pit NJ Gov Chris Christie for saying an idiotic thing about Civil Rights **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [January 27, 2012, 1:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-nj-gov-chris-christie-for-saying-an-idiotic-thing-about-civil-rights/610798 "2012-01-27T01:13:42Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![wonky](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wonky/32/393_2.png) [@wonky](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wonky)\ **Post date:** [January 30, 2012, 4:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-nj-gov-chris-christie-for-saying-an-idiotic-thing-about-civil-rights/610798/41 "2012-01-30T16:16:39Z")
> [@steronz](#): > > I see what you’re saying, but by making the comparison, isn’t he also essentially setting up his side as the equivalent of the anti-civil rights people? Why would anyone in their right mind evoke that imagery? “Yes, I’m oppressing peoples’ rights, just like we did pre-1965. If you don’t like it, hold a referendum!” Sadly, I don’t think he thinks being that guy would cost him votes. ---
**Author:** ![Condescending\_Robot](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/a183cd/32.png) [@Condescending\_Robot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Condescending_Robot)\ **Post date:** [January 30, 2012, 4:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-nj-gov-chris-christie-for-saying-an-idiotic-thing-about-civil-rights/610798/42 "2012-01-30T16:40:40Z")
> [@steronz](#): > > I see what you’re saying, but by making the comparison, isn’t he also essentially setting up his side as the equivalent of the anti-civil rights people? Why would anyone in their right mind evoke that imagery? “Yes, I’m oppressing peoples’ rights, just like we did pre-1965. If you don’t like it, hold a referendum!” Because he’s running for President in 2016 and making barely coded statements against civil rights for black people is one of the requirements to win votes in the Republican primary? ---
**Author:** ![LavenderBlue](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/e95f7d/32.png) [@LavenderBlue](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LavenderBlue)\ **Post date:** [January 30, 2012, 5:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-nj-gov-chris-christie-for-saying-an-idiotic-thing-about-civil-rights/610798/43 "2012-01-30T17:36:57Z")
> [@Loach](#): > > I’m nominally republican and I know he is retarded. The worst governor we have had in my memory. And that’s saying a lot. He has a lot of sheep fooled though. So true. We’ve had Governor Had to Resign Because he Was Being Blackmailed Because he Didn’t Trust Us Enough to Tell Us He Was Gay and Govenor Being Investigated For Massive Financial Fraud. Yet Christie still manages to be even worse. The asshole recently lost us yet more education money: > [@](#): > > [N.J. loses out on $60M in competition for federal education money - nj.com](http://www.nj.com/news/index.ssf/2011/12/nj_loses_out_in_60m_competitio.html) > > New Jersey has lost another bid for federal education money nearly a year and a half after an application error cost the state $400 million in the first round of competition. ---
**Author:** ![3\_20\_59\_or\_bust](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/3/47e85d/32.png) [@3\_20\_59\_or\_bust](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/3_20_59_or_bust)\ **Post date:** [January 30, 2012, 5:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-nj-gov-chris-christie-for-saying-an-idiotic-thing-about-civil-rights/610798/44 "2012-01-30T17:38:44Z")
> [@pseudotriton\_ruber\_ruber](#): > > He’s a big, blustering tub of guts who inexplicably has gotten a reputation as intelligent and honest, though I have never heard him do much other brag on his own self and try to bully people around. I’d love to stick a pin in him and see him fly to California. Truly, he’s the Rex Ryan of politics. ---
**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\ **Post date:** [January 30, 2012, 5:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-nj-gov-chris-christie-for-saying-an-idiotic-thing-about-civil-rights/610798/45 "2012-01-30T17:40:25Z")
> [@Loach](#): > > I’m nominally republican and I know he is retarded. The worst governor we have had in my memory. And that’s saying a lot. He has a lot of sheep fooled though. Damn you! ---
**Author:** ![E-Sabbath](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/e19adc/32.png) [@E-Sabbath](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/E-Sabbath)\ **Post date:** [January 30, 2012, 5:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-nj-gov-chris-christie-for-saying-an-idiotic-thing-about-civil-rights/610798/46 "2012-01-30T17:51:33Z")
He’s all right, if you remember where he came from. Federal prosecutor. Means he’s always right, and he uses his body language to intimidate the hell out of people. He goes for maximum confrontation, because it’s part of how he works. ---
**Author:** ![Loach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/loach/32/350_2.png) [@Loach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Loach)\ **Post date:** [January 30, 2012, 7:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-nj-gov-chris-christie-for-saying-an-idiotic-thing-about-civil-rights/610798/47 "2012-01-30T19:27:14Z")
> [@LavenderBlue](#): > > So true. > > We’ve had Governor Had to Resign Because he Was Being Blackmailed Because he Didn’t Trust Us Enough to Tell Us He Was Gay and Govenor Being Investigated For Massive Financial Fraud. Yet Christie still manages to be even worse. The asshole recently lost us yet more education money: That’s not the whole story with Mcgreevy. It was a pretty open secret that he was gay. I knew before he was sworn in. > [@3\_20\_59\_or\_bust](#): > > Truly, he’s the Rex Ryan of politics. I’d rather have Ryan. ---
**Author:** ![Loach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/loach/32/350_2.png) [@Loach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Loach)\ **Post date:** [January 30, 2012, 9:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-nj-gov-chris-christie-for-saying-an-idiotic-thing-about-civil-rights/610798/48 "2012-01-30T21:59:41Z")
He is now nominating the the Supreme Court someone who’s family just settled civilly with the Feds in a case in which it looked like they were laundering money or at least trying to hide it from the IRS. A business owned by his mother that employs his wife. ---
**Author:** ![TriPolar](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tripolar/32/3008_2.png) [@TriPolar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TriPolar)\ **Post date:** [January 30, 2012, 10:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-nj-gov-chris-christie-for-saying-an-idiotic-thing-about-civil-rights/610798/49 "2012-01-30T22:13:56Z")
> [@Loach](#): > > He is now nominating the the Supreme Court someone who’s family just settled civilly with the Feds in a case in which it looked like they were laundering money or at least trying to hide it from the IRS. A business owned by his mother that employs his wife. This is why he’s not running for president, nor will any other NJ governor. You don’t get that position without being dirty. ---
**Author:** ![Damuri\_Ajashi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/898d66/32.png) [@Damuri\_Ajashi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Damuri_Ajashi)\ **Post date:** [January 30, 2012, 11:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-nj-gov-chris-christie-for-saying-an-idiotic-thing-about-civil-rights/610798/50 "2012-01-30T23:04:24Z")
> [@jsgoddess](#): > > He’s saying that they would have wanted to have been able to win that way without having to get beaten up and arrested and the like. He’s not saying they could have won that way. He’s saying that they would have been glad to win that way if it had been possible. I don’t think so. He is saying he thinks that a referendum would have worked if only those racist legislators would have allowed it. As if civil rights should be left to a vote. This is a consistent meme in the social conservative movement. If they want it, let them get a legislature to vote it in. This applies to abortion mostly and now that legislatures are actually voting in gay rights they think it should be left to a referendum. > [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](#): > > I like to think of Christie as one of the not-retarded Republicans. Don’t spoil it for me. He’s not retarded, he just isn’t as deep as some people think he is. He is as much New Jersey Republican as any other NJ Republican, he just yells it with more confidence and conviction. Northeast Republicans are generally less retarded than the ones from the South and more honest than the ones from teh Midwest. ---
**Author:** ![Loach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/loach/32/350_2.png) [@Loach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Loach)\ **Post date:** [January 30, 2012, 11:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-nj-gov-chris-christie-for-saying-an-idiotic-thing-about-civil-rights/610798/51 "2012-01-30T23:07:40Z")
> [@TriPolar](#): > > This is why he’s not running for president, nor will any other NJ governor. You don’t get that position without being dirty. I recommend reading Mysteries of my Father by historian Thomas Fleming. His father was the Sheriff of Hudson County and firmly entrenched in the Frank Hague administration in Jersey City. Paints a very clear picture of how and why Jersey politics evolved into what it is. Also a damn good history of the time. I have personal interest in it because Fleming grew up next door and was the same age as my father. So it’s partly a history of my family too. Oh and my aunt was banging his father on the side. ---
**Author:** ![dropzone](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dropzone/32/7515_2.png) [@dropzone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dropzone)\ **Post date:** [January 30, 2012, 11:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-nj-gov-chris-christie-for-saying-an-idiotic-thing-about-civil-rights/610798/52 "2012-01-30T23:22:37Z")
Charming. 😉 Anyway, I thought this thread was about the abomination that is the Designated Hitter, not politics or whose aunt was banging whom, though that’s interesting, too. ---
**Author:** ![TriPolar](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tripolar/32/3008_2.png) [@TriPolar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TriPolar)\ **Post date:** [January 30, 2012, 11:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-nj-gov-chris-christie-for-saying-an-idiotic-thing-about-civil-rights/610798/53 "2012-01-30T23:43:19Z")
> [@dropzone](#): > > Charming. 😉 > > Anyway, I thought this thread was about the abomination that is the Designated Hitter, not politics or whose aunt was banging whom, though that’s interesting, too. Isn’t obvious that Christie and all the other NJ govs are DH loving Yankee fans? ---
**Author:** ![Eve](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/9e8a1a/32.png) [@Eve](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Eve)\ **Post date:** [January 31, 2012, 12:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-nj-gov-chris-christie-for-saying-an-idiotic-thing-about-civil-rights/610798/54 "2012-01-31T00:00:40Z")
> [@Loach](#): > > Oh and my aunt was banging his father on the side. Less chance of getting pregnant than banging him on the front, I guess. ---
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [January 31, 2012, 12:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-nj-gov-chris-christie-for-saying-an-idiotic-thing-about-civil-rights/610798/55 "2012-01-31T00:41:04Z")
Good Lord, when did they move it? ---
**Author:** ![dropzone](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dropzone/32/7515_2.png) [@dropzone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dropzone)\ **Post date:** [January 31, 2012, 12:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-nj-gov-chris-christie-for-saying-an-idiotic-thing-about-civil-rights/610798/56 "2012-01-31T00:51:45Z")
> [@TriPolar](#): > > Isn’t obvious that Christie and all the other NJ govs are DH loving Yankee fans? I’m National League all the way. The Yankees are the Nine Horsemen. Didn’t Steinbrenner force the DH on half of the universe to make more money? :mad: ---
**Author:** ![dropzone](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dropzone/32/7515_2.png) [@dropzone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dropzone)\ **Post date:** [January 31, 2012, 12:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-nj-gov-chris-christie-for-saying-an-idiotic-thing-about-civil-rights/610798/57 "2012-01-31T00:59:10Z")
[Here.](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?p=14723018#post14723018) ---
**Author:** ![Sampiro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/2acd7d/32.png) [@Sampiro](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sampiro)\ **Post date:** [January 31, 2012, 9:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-nj-gov-chris-christie-for-saying-an-idiotic-thing-about-civil-rights/610798/58 "2012-01-31T21:19:38Z")
> [@Eve](#): > > Less chance of getting pregnant than banging him on the front, I guess. Unless he was secretly a snakes, in which case not only is the penis on the side, but for many species there’s one on each side. So be careful when a snake tries to snuggle up against you. ---
**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\ **Post date:** [January 31, 2012, 11:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-nj-gov-chris-christie-for-saying-an-idiotic-thing-about-civil-rights/610798/59 "2012-01-31T23:29:16Z")
> [@dropzone](#): > > [Here.](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?p=14723018#post14723018) Don’t worry about it; I settled that one. ---
**Author:** ![Jack\_Batty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jack_batty/32/3201_2.png) [@Jack\_Batty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jack_Batty)\ **Post date:** [February 17, 2012, 11:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-nj-gov-chris-christie-for-saying-an-idiotic-thing-about-civil-rights/610798/60 "2012-02-17T23:15:40Z")
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