# I Pit NotOkay for convincing the entire board umkay had died! **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [June 23, 2012, 7:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-notokay-for-convincing-the-entire-board-umkay-had-died/626044 "2012-06-23T07:01:37Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 21
**Author:** ![Do\_Not\_Taunt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/do_not_taunt/32/2968_2.png) [@Do\_Not\_Taunt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Do_Not_Taunt)\ **Post date:** [June 25, 2012, 5:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-notokay-for-convincing-the-entire-board-umkay-had-died/626044/401 "2012-06-25T05:05:32Z")
> [@Tarwater](#): > > It’s not a matter of people not being hip to “internet fraud.” It’s a matter of people accepting a story that strains credulity. It’s a matter of common sense. The phrase “you have to take it with a grain of salt” didn’t originate with someone pretending to be a quad on an internet forum. > > For a place that prides itself on intelligence and skepticism, it’s more than a little embarrassing. You’re really kind of a jerk, aren’t you? Look, I give you credit (well, not you, since I don’t think I saw any posts from you until after the evidence came in) for sniffing something out that I didn’t, but prior to seeing the sezyoo evidence, it was hasty to definitively conclude anything. Those of you who were always skeptical, really, I am impressed. Especially those of you who identified something was amiss and posted about it. And I am glad you went out and actually found something that supports the troll hypothesis. But the smugness from those who absolutely “knew” all along, please.. Hunches are not always right, even if it was here. ---
**Author:** ![Bad\_News\_Baboon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/5fc32e/32.png) [@Bad\_News\_Baboon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bad_News_Baboon)\ **Post date:** [June 25, 2012, 5:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-notokay-for-convincing-the-entire-board-umkay-had-died/626044/402 "2012-06-25T05:05:44Z")
> [@Una\_Persson](#): > > And he would have a silk top hat. And possibly a blue sash diagonally across his chest with gold letters, exclaiming RICH BANKER. Don’t forget the £ embossed on his spats’ buttons. $ is so… new money. ---
**Author:** ![florez](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/b9e5f3/32.png) [@florez](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/florez)\ **Post date:** [June 25, 2012, 5:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-notokay-for-convincing-the-entire-board-umkay-had-died/626044/403 "2012-06-25T05:10:16Z")
> [@CairoCarol](#): > > Did anyone else notice the age issue? (Umkay, if you are reading this, take note so you can troll even more effectively next time. Either choose an older character, or study the writing of the young before you post.) Or instead of trolling she might consider writing fiction, where she can use her talent for developing believable quad characters in a legitimate manner. Her expertise on the subject, along with her desire to educate, inspire, and entertain could be a very positive thing. And there is no shame in being a creative storyteller like there is in being a troll. ---
**Author:** ![Blackberry](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/ecd19e/32.png) [@Blackberry](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Blackberry)\ **Post date:** [June 25, 2012, 5:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-notokay-for-convincing-the-entire-board-umkay-had-died/626044/404 "2012-06-25T05:10:20Z")
> [@Ambivalid](#): > > OMG I feel ya here!! Holy shit it was irritating. I totally would have been more suspicious sooner if I hadn’t kept reminding myself that I hate and mistrust all perky people with perfect-seeming lives, but that some people really are like that. She was careful to point out her faults too, I assume as a conscious effort to not seem \*too \*perfect. But even her faults were like, “teehee, I can be so adorably stubborn sometimes” and “I admit I can get a little grumpy at times”. Sezyoo was \*\*exactly \*\*like this too. ---
**Author:** ![Toucanna](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/3bc359/32.png) [@Toucanna](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Toucanna)\ **Post date:** [June 25, 2012, 5:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-notokay-for-convincing-the-entire-board-umkay-had-died/626044/405 "2012-06-25T05:10:31Z")
> [@Sarabellum1976](#): > > {snip} Here she is a few months ago, with a different story (but similar) on a mommy board discussing her pregnancy and breastfeeding issues. {snip} > [@Sarabellum1976](#): > > This is the thread detailing the aftermath of the outing. {snip} > [@minlokwat](#): > > And this… Some of the commenters in those threads mention that prior to “sezyoo” posting to the WTE board, s/he had made an appearance (and been outed) on an “HB” forum. Anyone know what that is? TIA! ---
**Author:** ![PlainJain](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/5daacb/32.png) [@PlainJain](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PlainJain)\ **Post date:** [June 25, 2012, 5:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-notokay-for-convincing-the-entire-board-umkay-had-died/626044/406 "2012-06-25T05:12:28Z")
> [@Blackberry](#): > > I mostly did too but I was starting to think her incessant perkiness and posting style was annoying and seemed contrived. But I thought maybe it was just me being a Negative Nelly who should try to stop disliking perky people so much. Yep, that’s the attitude I was talking about in my earlier post. > [@Do Not Taunt](#): > > Those of you who were always skeptical, really, I am impressed. Especially those of you who identified something was amiss and posted about it. And I am glad you went out and actually found something that supports the troll hypothesis. But the smugness from those who absolutely “knew” all along, please.. Hunches are not always right, even if it was here. I know you weren’t targeting anyone in particular, but in my case I merely stated that my BS meter twinged a bit and it caused me not to post in that thread. ---
**Author:** ![Tarwater](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/9de0a6/32.png) [@Tarwater](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tarwater)\ **Post date:** [June 25, 2012, 5:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-notokay-for-convincing-the-entire-board-umkay-had-died/626044/407 "2012-06-25T05:13:27Z")
“HB” might stand for “home birth?” ---
**Author:** ![Patience\_Jones](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/ec9cab/32.png) [@Patience\_Jones](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Patience_Jones)\ **Post date:** [June 25, 2012, 5:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-notokay-for-convincing-the-entire-board-umkay-had-died/626044/408 "2012-06-25T05:13:35Z")
> [@Toucanna](#): > > Some of the commenters in those threads mention that prior to “sezyoo” posting to the WTE board, s/he had made an appearance (and been outed) on an “HB” forum. Anyone know what that is? TIA! Wonder if it could mean “home birth?” Beaten to the punch! ---
**Author:** ![Beastly\_Rotter](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/45deac/32.png) [@Beastly\_Rotter](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Beastly_Rotter)\ **Post date:** [June 25, 2012, 5:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-notokay-for-convincing-the-entire-board-umkay-had-died/626044/409 "2012-06-25T05:43:46Z")
Smartest and hippest my bony white arse. ---
**Author:** ![tesseract](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/bb73d2/32.png) [@tesseract](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tesseract)\ **Post date:** [June 25, 2012, 5:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-notokay-for-convincing-the-entire-board-umkay-had-died/626044/410 "2012-06-25T05:46:31Z")
How long will it take for them to ban her? I admit I completely believed in her, did not see all the BS, loved her for her attitude, etc., etc. Told my husband about her. I find it sad that she faked us out but it does not at all ruin my day or week. As Rand said, when you post on a message board you need to rearrange your psyche to accept that people might not be who they say they are. I find it a fascinating learning experience, both about trolls and about quadriplegia. I also feel very sorry for her, or him, whoever he/she really is. How f\*cked (heh) up do you have to be to do that ? Anyway, it’s a little amusing that after reading sezyoo’s posts there is anyone left not completely convinced that \*\*umkay \*\*is fake-- her posting style is slightly different than sezyoo’s, perfectly appropriately to fit into each board. The details are overwhelmingly the same and do NOT apply to all quads (her special very expensive bed, her special very expensive shower chair, etc. etc.) Also, as a side note, I thought she picked very well when she said “bankers” - obviously investment bankers, who can make shitloads of money. Ah, well. ---
**Author:** ![Brynda](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/e79b87/32.png) [@Brynda](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Brynda)\ **Post date:** [June 25, 2012, 5:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-notokay-for-convincing-the-entire-board-umkay-had-died/626044/411 "2012-06-25T05:56:21Z")
She pinged my BS meter early on, which is why I asked her about what she remembered about the SCI sex video, since I hVe seen it several times and would know if she made up a detail. She never answered. I even chatted with another doper about my suspicions. As for posting something, my suspicions weren’t atrong enough. ---
**Author:** ![Beastly\_Rotter](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/45deac/32.png) [@Beastly\_Rotter](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Beastly_Rotter)\ **Post date:** [June 25, 2012, 6:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-notokay-for-convincing-the-entire-board-umkay-had-died/626044/412 "2012-06-25T06:00:04Z")
> [@Do\_Not\_Taunt](#): > > Those of you who were always skeptical, really, I am impressed. Especially those of you who identified something was amiss and posted about it. And I am glad you went out and actually found something that supports the troll hypothesis. But the smugness from those who absolutely “knew” all along, please.. Hunches are not always right, even if it was here. It wasn’t even that it was fucking obvious to anyone with a grain of scepticism that “she” was way too perfect, it’s that the 14 year old girl level of gushing towards “her” - O YOU’RE SO BRAVE AN INSPIRING - was downright embarrassing, and after her resurrection, some of it bordered on the creepily masturbatory. Some people here need to step away from their keyboards for a good long time and recalibrate their view of reality. ---
**Author:** ![Toucanna](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/3bc359/32.png) [@Toucanna](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Toucanna)\ **Post date:** [June 25, 2012, 6:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-notokay-for-convincing-the-entire-board-umkay-had-died/626044/413 "2012-06-25T06:01:27Z")
While I will confess to a morbid curiosity (tinged with a pinch of pitch-fork-carrying out-for-revenge mob-mentality), it’s too hot and muggy for me to actually get off my duff and conduct a (“meta”?) search of the intrawebz for skumyazoo’s favorite phrases. (In other words, his/her “tells”.) I encourage the more tenacious cyber-sleuths amongst our august body to conduct such a search and report back. Then we can have fun ruining skumyazoo’s attempts to troll other boards by posting link’s to his/her previous attempts at messing with people’s heads. C’mon! I just _know_ there are Dopers who enjoy 419scam-busting. 😃 ---
**Author:** ![Cazzle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cazzle/32/75_2.png) [@Cazzle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cazzle)\ **Post date:** [June 25, 2012, 6:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-notokay-for-convincing-the-entire-board-umkay-had-died/626044/414 "2012-06-25T06:04:21Z")
One thing in umkay’s favour: at least she portrayed herself as independently wealthy, and didn’t make constant references to how hard up she was financially, and how she just needed $x00 for this expense, $y00 for that. Small amounts, that people feel like they could help with even though she hasn’t asked, so when she’s eventually called out for being a troll she can protest innocence and claim she never asked anyone for anything. That would be a far worse kind of troll. ---
**Author:** ![Ambivalid](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/a5b964/32.png) [@Ambivalid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ambivalid)\ **Post date:** [June 25, 2012, 6:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-notokay-for-convincing-the-entire-board-umkay-had-died/626044/415 "2012-06-25T06:06:23Z")
> [@Beastly\_Rotter](#): > > It wasn’t even that it was fucking obvious to anyone with a grain of scepticism that “she” was way too perfect, it’s that the 14 year old girl level of gushing towards “her” - O YOU’RE SO BRAVE AN INSPIRING - was downright embarrassing, and after her resurrection, some of it bordered on the creepily masturbatory. Some people here need to step away from their keyboards for a good long time and recalibrate their view of reality. [http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=15200093&postcount=116](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=15200093&postcount=116) So you gonna try to say this was sarcasm? 😉 ---
**Author:** ![tesseract](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/bb73d2/32.png) [@tesseract](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tesseract)\ **Post date:** [June 25, 2012, 6:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-notokay-for-convincing-the-entire-board-umkay-had-died/626044/416 "2012-06-25T06:10:30Z")
> [@Beastly\_Rotter](#): > > It wasn’t even that it was fucking obvious to anyone with a grain of scepticism that “she” was way too perfect, it’s that the 14 year old girl level of gushing towards “her” - O YOU’RE SO BRAVE AN INSPIRING - was downright embarrassing, and after her resurrection, some of it bordered on the creepily masturbatory. Some people here need to step away from their keyboards for a good long time and recalibrate their view of reality. Speaking as someone who gushed at her – and yes, I feel dumb about it now – the interesting part is that in order for her to write the way she does, she actually probably is an intelligent and somewhat interesting person, right? I mean, she really _does_ have an engaging narrative voice, agreed? Granted if I were to go back and read the posts and what I find interesting about her voice now, I suppose all of what I read will be about quadriplegia/reactions to it/her amazing attitude, etc. So she is probably a crazy devotee or something – but she actually really should write a book (preferably a fiction book) because I think people would read it. (Maybe she is writing one and that part was true.) Is her engaging-ness typical of trollish craziness? I wasn’t around for the Wally debacle. When I came here in 2002, his smiley still existed but I think he was not outed yet, not sure. I never read his posts. ---
**Author:** ![Farmer\_Jane](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/bbe5ce/32.png) [@Farmer\_Jane](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Farmer_Jane)\ **Post date:** [June 25, 2012, 6:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-notokay-for-convincing-the-entire-board-umkay-had-died/626044/417 "2012-06-25T06:21:47Z")
Not only is she a hot educated blonde who is super wealthy and explores the world and falls from planes and scuba dives, but she’s an AUTHOR as well. Yeah, I think she\* created\* devotes here. ---
**Author:** ![tesseract](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/bb73d2/32.png) [@tesseract](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tesseract)\ **Post date:** [June 25, 2012, 6:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-notokay-for-convincing-the-entire-board-umkay-had-died/626044/418 "2012-06-25T06:29:03Z")
**Farmer Jane** , I think you’re just being snarky, but I’m looking for a serious answer. Does she or does she not have an engaging narrative voice? I would like to know what people think. Do I think that she does only because the subject matter was so freaking wonderful and amazing and perfect, etc.? Or does she anyway? ---
**Author:** ![Beastly\_Rotter](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/45deac/32.png) [@Beastly\_Rotter](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Beastly_Rotter)\ **Post date:** [June 25, 2012, 6:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-notokay-for-convincing-the-entire-board-umkay-had-died/626044/419 "2012-06-25T06:35:04Z")
> [@Ambivalid](#): > > [http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=15200093&postcount=116](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=15200093&postcount=116) > > So you gonna try to say this was sarcasm? 😉 Partly sarcasm; it was also admiration at how well she played her audience. It was a veiled dig at her and her fans. ---
**Author:** ![MG-42](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/9de053/32.png) [@MG-42](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MG-42)\ **Post date:** [June 25, 2012, 6:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-notokay-for-convincing-the-entire-board-umkay-had-died/626044/420 "2012-06-25T06:37:15Z")
Some people crave attention, others want to save the world and give moral support to the disabled/ poor disadvantaged people in order to feel morally superior. Since both sides got their fix not much harm was done. Even the cynics can celebrate with Hannum: “There’s a Sucker Born Every Minute” Good entertainment [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-notokay-for-convincing-the-entire-board-umkay-had-died/626044.md?page=20) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-notokay-for-convincing-the-entire-board-umkay-had-died/626044.md?page=22)