# I Pit NotOkay for convincing the entire board umkay had died! **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [June 23, 2012, 7:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-notokay-for-convincing-the-entire-board-umkay-had-died/626044 "2012-06-23T07:01:37Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![needscoffee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/needscoffee/32/1076_2.png) [@needscoffee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/needscoffee)\ **Post date:** [June 23, 2012, 4:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-notokay-for-convincing-the-entire-board-umkay-had-died/626044/41 "2012-06-23T16:21:52Z")
I have found her posting abilities pretty astonishing, with complex multiquoting and editing and excising of those quotes, all done at a speed I’d find difficult myself. I understand that the text-to-speech software can be very fast, but all the cutting and editing I find pretty amazing. I’m withholding judgment for now, but agree that if she’s for real, she’s a remarkable gal. ---
**Author:** ![hajario](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hajario/32/171_2.png) [@hajario](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/hajario)\ **Post date:** [June 23, 2012, 4:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-notokay-for-convincing-the-entire-board-umkay-had-died/626044/42 "2012-06-23T16:22:41Z")
> [@needscoffee](#): > > I have found her posting abilities pretty astonishing, with complex multiquoting and editing and excising of those quotes, all done at a speed I’d find difficult myself. I understand that the text-to-speech software can be very fast, but all the cutting and editing I find pretty amazing. I’m withholding judgment for now, but agree that if she’s for real, she’s a remarkable gal. She said that her caretakers often post what she dictates to them. ---
**Author:** ![needscoffee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/needscoffee/32/1076_2.png) [@needscoffee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/needscoffee)\ **Post date:** [June 23, 2012, 4:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-notokay-for-convincing-the-entire-board-umkay-had-died/626044/43 "2012-06-23T16:26:55Z")
> [@hajario](#): > > She said that her caretakers often post what she dictates to them. Doesn’t address the complicated edited multiquoting. ---
**Author:** ![Lemur866](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lemur866/32/434_2.png) [@Lemur866](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lemur866)\ **Post date:** [June 23, 2012, 4:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-notokay-for-convincing-the-entire-board-umkay-had-died/626044/44 "2012-06-23T16:28:45Z")
Reminds me a bit of the Kaitlyn kerfuffle. Yeah, Kaitlyn knew everything about transgender issues. And that meant that she/he wasn’t posting strictly to fuck with people, but rather as an extended fantasy. It isn’t hard to believe that some devotee/wannabe could know enough about being disabled to convincingly post as one. ---
**Author:** ![armedmonkey](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/d6d6ee/32.png) [@armedmonkey](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/armedmonkey)\ **Post date:** [June 23, 2012, 4:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-notokay-for-convincing-the-entire-board-umkay-had-died/626044/45 "2012-06-23T16:48:28Z")
> [@hajario](#): > > Ridiculous. If umkay is real, NotOK was almost certainly someone with a history with this message board wanting to screw with us. Shit! I … um … crap! For some strange reason I thought “umkay” registered in 2002. It didn’t. That thing registered this month. Both user names are trolls. _son of a bitch!_ I don’t usually fall for that crap. To borrow from Jurassic Park: “clever girl”. ---
**Author:** ![florez](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/b9e5f3/32.png) [@florez](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/florez)\ **Post date:** [June 23, 2012, 5:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-notokay-for-convincing-the-entire-board-umkay-had-died/626044/46 "2012-06-23T17:04:31Z")
> [@TriPolar](#): > > That would be my guess. > > As for whether **umkay** is sincere or not, we don’t know that any more than any other poster. But someone else’s posts claiming that\*\* umkay \*\*is dead, when umkay clearly is not, should not bear on the veracity of her story. So sure that it was “someone else’s posts” claiming umkay is dead? I am just learning that trolls enjoy bringing drama, and the whole attention to my special situation, exaggerated death, and rising again in so short a time might just be a part of troll fun. ---
**Author:** ![BMalion](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/e274bd/32.png) [@BMalion](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BMalion)\ **Post date:** [June 23, 2012, 5:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-notokay-for-convincing-the-entire-board-umkay-had-died/626044/47 "2012-06-23T17:14:36Z")
I never fell for a troll before. Interesting. ---
**Author:** ![armedmonkey](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/d6d6ee/32.png) [@armedmonkey](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/armedmonkey)\ **Post date:** [June 23, 2012, 5:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-notokay-for-convincing-the-entire-board-umkay-had-died/626044/48 "2012-06-23T17:19:18Z")
“ **kay** ”? Can I call you “ **kay** ”? Umkay or notKay, I know you are reading this. I’m just going to call you “ **kay** ”. That was clever as hell. My hat’s off to you. But the joke is done. I’m impressed, really. You got the gullible to mourn you, but that joke ( and I have to admit, it is kinda funny) is done. You’re done. ---
**Author:** ![Smeghead](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/f1d935/32.png) [@Smeghead](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smeghead)\ **Post date:** [June 23, 2012, 5:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-notokay-for-convincing-the-entire-board-umkay-had-died/626044/49 "2012-06-23T17:20:03Z")
> [@etv78](#): > > YOU RAT BASTARD! WHAT THE FUCK IS WRONG WITH YOU!!! She quickly became a well loved member, on the strength of 2 threads! You had us shocked and saddened, only for her to come back and reveal she’s alive and well (relatively speaking) Regardless of what’s actually going on, this post could not have been more perfectly crafted to reward the person behind the trolling. ---
**Author:** ![Do\_Not\_Taunt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/do_not_taunt/32/2968_2.png) [@Do\_Not\_Taunt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Do_Not_Taunt)\ **Post date:** [June 23, 2012, 5:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-notokay-for-convincing-the-entire-board-umkay-had-died/626044/50 "2012-06-23T17:28:45Z")
This whole thread is an elaborate hoax. The giveaway is that **Bricker** is the only one talking sense here, and that’s just implausible. Well done, but that one detail gives you away. (Oh, and confidential to **Bricker** , :p) ---
**Author:** ![Farmer\_Jane](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/bbe5ce/32.png) [@Farmer\_Jane](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Farmer_Jane)\ **Post date:** [June 23, 2012, 5:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-notokay-for-convincing-the-entire-board-umkay-had-died/626044/51 "2012-06-23T17:30:16Z")
Most of us have been on message boards for the last 10 or 15 years. Fakes happen. I’m glad I’m not the only one who was a little…unconvinced. If it turns out that **umkay** is who she says she is, then great. But it would seem that 99.999 per cent of the attention she gets is for being a paraplegic. Maybe being an alleged hot blonde in a wheelchair gets you farther. (Sorry, **Ambi**.) There are people here who post things that are 100 per cent true and get accused of being a sock. Her story is a little…too good to be true. As far as her knowing a lot about spinal cord injuries, well, **umkay** could be posting as someone who knows someone like **umkay**. I was once part of a board where some teen’s mother posted as her and put up all of her pics and etc. It was nuts. She even got this nice guy in California to ‘fall in Internet love’ with her. He flew all the way to Australia. Boy, was he in for a surprise. ---
**Author:** ![armedmonkey](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/d6d6ee/32.png) [@armedmonkey](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/armedmonkey)\ **Post date:** [June 23, 2012, 5:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-notokay-for-convincing-the-entire-board-umkay-had-died/626044/52 "2012-06-23T17:45:56Z")
You got to give it up for the true troll, though. As much as I hate to admit it, that was pretty goddamn clever. **Kay** got me for awhile. He or she is an asshole, truly, but I would be lying if I said that wasn’t clever as hell. ---
**Author:** ![Giraffe](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/giraffe/32/129_2.png) [@Giraffe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Giraffe)\ **Post date:** [June 23, 2012, 5:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-notokay-for-convincing-the-entire-board-umkay-had-died/626044/53 "2012-06-23T17:49:08Z")
NotOkay is a jerk. Being a fake quadriplegic’s fake brother comes with certain responsibilities, and faking the fake death of said fake quadriplegic is simply unacceptable. Why not spend your fake energies on something positive, like faking a surprise birthday party? ---
**Author:** ![Farmer\_Jane](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/bbe5ce/32.png) [@Farmer\_Jane](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Farmer_Jane)\ **Post date:** [June 23, 2012, 5:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-notokay-for-convincing-the-entire-board-umkay-had-died/626044/54 "2012-06-23T17:49:30Z")
> [@A Monkey With a Gun](#): > > You got to give it up for the true troll, though. As much as I hate to admit it, that was pretty goddamn clever. **Kay** got me for awhile. > > He or she is an asshole, truly, but I would be lying if I said that wasn’t clever as hell. At least **umkay** didn’t ask for cash. (: ---
**Author:** ![lavenderviolet](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/cdc98d/32.png) [@lavenderviolet](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lavenderviolet)\ **Post date:** [June 23, 2012, 5:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-notokay-for-convincing-the-entire-board-umkay-had-died/626044/55 "2012-06-23T17:55:49Z")
It is certainly possible for someone to create a ridiculously elaborate internet hoax. Look at all the time Emily Dirr apparently put into the “Warrior Eli” hoax, creating a whole fake family over the course of many years: [http://warriorelihoax.wordpress.com/2012/05/22/timeline/](http://warriorelihoax.wordpress.com/2012/05/22/timeline/) So, sure, I can see how umkay might be making up an incredibly detailed tale that isn’t true. However, I tend to give people the benefit of the doubt unless they’re trying to scam people out of money or otherwise acting in a way that could really cause damage. Someone could say I am lying about who I’ve claimed to be on here, and my reaction would probably just be “Whatever. Believe me if you want. I’m not asking anything from anyone. I’m just here to talk to people”. I am always open to the idea that someone posting on here could be totally making it up, but in most circumstances it really doesn’t matter anyway. ---
**Author:** ![armedmonkey](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/d6d6ee/32.png) [@armedmonkey](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/armedmonkey)\ **Post date:** [June 23, 2012, 5:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-notokay-for-convincing-the-entire-board-umkay-had-died/626044/56 "2012-06-23T17:56:44Z")
> [@Farmer\_Jane](#): > > At least **umkay** didn’t ask for cash. (: 🙂 I do kinda go ballistic when that happens. ---
**Author:** ![BaystateBlue](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/7ba0ec/32.png) [@BaystateBlue](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BaystateBlue)\ **Post date:** [June 23, 2012, 6:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-notokay-for-convincing-the-entire-board-umkay-had-died/626044/57 "2012-06-23T18:02:52Z")
I’m just a lurker in this, but I like how in the space of a few posts, wild speculation has become fact. It seems to me like most socks make some sort of mistake that the administrators would have found when they ‘investigated’ the situation. Things like posting with the same IP. Even if not, a troll whose primary effect has been educating the public about quadriplegia doesn’t seem so bad to me. ---
**Author:** ![Farmer\_Jane](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/bbe5ce/32.png) [@Farmer\_Jane](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Farmer_Jane)\ **Post date:** [June 23, 2012, 6:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-notokay-for-convincing-the-entire-board-umkay-had-died/626044/58 "2012-06-23T18:11:37Z")
> [@A Monkey With a Gun](#): > > 🙂 I do kinda go ballistic when that happens. I feel like I need to reach through the computer and offer a drink. You know, like ((((scotch)))) ---
**Author:** ![Myrnalene](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/c4cdca/32.png) [@Myrnalene](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Myrnalene)\ **Post date:** [June 23, 2012, 6:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-notokay-for-convincing-the-entire-board-umkay-had-died/626044/59 "2012-06-23T18:12:04Z")
> [@BaystateBlue](#): > > It seems to me like most socks make some sort of mistake that the administrators would have found when they ‘investigated’ the situation. Things like posting with the same IP. Dude, any self-respecting sock these days is gonna use a proxy. ---
**Author:** ![Peremensoe](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/ce7236/32.png) [@Peremensoe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Peremensoe)\ **Post date:** [June 23, 2012, 6:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-notokay-for-convincing-the-entire-board-umkay-had-died/626044/60 "2012-06-23T18:21:40Z")
> [@BaystateBlue](#): > > …a troll whose primary effect has been educating the public about quadriplegia doesn’t seem so bad to me. The obsessive sport-lying aspect does somewhat undercut the message. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-notokay-for-convincing-the-entire-board-umkay-had-died/626044.md?page=2) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-notokay-for-convincing-the-entire-board-umkay-had-died/626044.md?page=4)