# I Pit NotOkay for convincing the entire board umkay had died!

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-notokay-for-convincing-the-entire-board-umkay-had-died/626044>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [June 23, 2012, 7:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-notokay-for-convincing-the-entire-board-umkay-had-died/626044 "2012-06-23T07:01:37Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Spice\_Weasel](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/spice_weasel/32/5435_2.png) [@Spice\_Weasel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spice_Weasel)\
**Post date:** [June 25, 2012, 5:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-notokay-for-convincing-the-entire-board-umkay-had-died/626044/621 "2012-06-25T17:45:24Z")

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> [@cmyk](#):
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> If this is supposed to act as some lesson for healthy skeptics to be careful about who you accuse on the internet of being a troll, because you’ll drive them away and hurt their feeling if you’re wrong, then:
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> 1. I can’t recall this ever happening here. Has anything like this happened before?

Happened to me. I left for about three months IIRC. And it was not a pleasant three months.

Though I do feel that if you have that strong of an emotional reaction to events on a message board, it’s a sign you have to get right with yourself. I feel like posters ought to show a bit of decorum when playing Jr. Detective, but I also feel that the accused is responsible for how s/he reacts to such rudeness.

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**Author:** ![Hentor\_the\_Barbarian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/8edcca/32.png) [@Hentor\_the\_Barbarian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hentor_the_Barbarian)\
**Post date:** [June 25, 2012, 5:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-notokay-for-convincing-the-entire-board-umkay-had-died/626044/622 "2012-06-25T17:45:26Z")

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> [@gonzoron](#):
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> Clearly, there’s a difference of opinion over what’s extraordinary and what’s not.
> 
> It hardly matters now to anyone other than the hypothetically real **umkay** , if she exists. But IMHO, there will always be a bit of reasonable doubt, and that’s makes the banning kind of a shame.

Holy shit. Really? I’m going to be skeptical and call this a joke.

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**Author:** ![Musicat](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/musicat/32/20189_2.png) [@Musicat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Musicat)\
**Post date:** [June 25, 2012, 5:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-notokay-for-convincing-the-entire-board-umkay-had-died/626044/623 "2012-06-25T17:47:22Z")

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> [@Bob Ducca](#):
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> I’m the Pope. Ask me anything.

Are you Catholic?

Why don’t you start a “Ask the Pope” thread?

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**Author:** ![GrandWino](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/grandwino/32/67_2.png) [@GrandWino](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GrandWino)\
**Post date:** [June 25, 2012, 5:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-notokay-for-convincing-the-entire-board-umkay-had-died/626044/624 "2012-06-25T17:49:43Z")

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> [@Moonlitherial](#):
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> Do you REALLY believe in God?

> [@cmyk](#):
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> What’s with that fucking hat?

I have bad news everybody. I’m the Pope’s brother and, well, there’s no easy way to say this but… the Pope died.

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**Author:** ![Azeotrope](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/0ea827/32.png) [@Azeotrope](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Azeotrope)\
**Post date:** [June 25, 2012, 5:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-notokay-for-convincing-the-entire-board-umkay-had-died/626044/625 "2012-06-25T17:53:47Z")

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Stephen Hawking is dead, too ☹

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**Author:** ![Marley23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Marley23](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marley23)\
**Post date:** [June 25, 2012, 5:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-notokay-for-convincing-the-entire-board-umkay-had-died/626044/626 "2012-06-25T17:54:31Z")

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> [@gonzoron](#):
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> Clearly, there’s a difference of opinion over what’s extraordinary and what’s not.

Yes, there is. But it’s not unreasonable to say this story was extraordinary and any other random “Ask the” thread or the life story of any random Doper is not.

> [@](#):
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> But IMHO, there will always be a bit of reasonable doubt, and that’s makes the banning kind of a shame.

Doubt, yes, but reasonable doubt? I don’t think so, personally. In real life, people who get caught doing this kind of thing usually don’t broke down in tears of remorse and apologize to all the people whose trust they abused. They just wait for the heat to die down and then take their act somewhere else.

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**Author:** ![cochrane](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cochrane/32/10441_2.png) [@cochrane](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cochrane)\
**Post date:** [June 25, 2012, 5:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-notokay-for-convincing-the-entire-board-umkay-had-died/626044/627 "2012-06-25T17:57:06Z")

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Edit - didn’t see umkay was banned. Can I have my humble pie _a la mode?_

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**Author:** ![gonzoron](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/a6a055/32.png) [@gonzoron](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gonzoron)\
**Post date:** [June 25, 2012, 6:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-notokay-for-convincing-the-entire-board-umkay-had-died/626044/628 "2012-06-25T18:00:12Z")

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> [@Hentor\_the\_Barbarian](#):
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> Holy shit. Really? I’m going to be skeptical and call this a joke.

Sure, be skeptical of every damn thing. why not?

Like I said before, I don’t think any of the evidence ever crossed over from “highly suspicious” to “conclusive,” no matter how many people call it “proof.” I would have loved to see if **umkay** ever addressed the sezyoo charges. Now she can’t. Bravo. The SDMB is now safe from trolls.

I’m not saying **umkay** is real. I’m not even saying it’s likely. I’m saying her troll-itude has not been proven 100% to a level of rigor that would be to my liking. But since I’m not in charge here, that really doesn’t matter, does it?

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**Author:** ![happycamper\_5](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/cab0a1/32.png) [@happycamper\_5](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/happycamper_5)\
**Post date:** [June 25, 2012, 6:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-notokay-for-convincing-the-entire-board-umkay-had-died/626044/629 "2012-06-25T18:00:50Z")

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> [@cochrane](#):
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> Edit - didn’t see umkay was banned. Can I have my humble pie _a la mode?_

I love irony as much as the next person, but don’t you think this is just a bit on the nose?

ETA: Ha! You beat me to it. Guess I need to update my software.

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**Author:** ![MeanOldLady](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/meanoldlady/32/10737_2.png) [@MeanOldLady](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MeanOldLady)\
**Post date:** [June 25, 2012, 6:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-notokay-for-convincing-the-entire-board-umkay-had-died/626044/630 "2012-06-25T18:01:34Z")

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Edit: If cochrane rescinded his post, I’ll rescind my response. Onto the second half of what was written here originally…

> [@Umkay's banning](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/umkays-banning/626264/12):
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> Lookit, Bricker! Still clinging. “B-b-but…she talked so purty!”.

And since it would be ill-advised to submit this in the ATMB thread the above was posted in, I’ll respond here: HA!

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**Author:** ![JKellyMap](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jkellymap/32/15880_2.png) [@JKellyMap](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JKellyMap)\
**Post date:** [June 25, 2012, 6:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-notokay-for-convincing-the-entire-board-umkay-had-died/626044/631 "2012-06-25T18:02:48Z")

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> [@Bob Ducca](#):
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> I’m the Pope. Ask me anything.

Do you really shit in the woods?

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**Author:** ![Hentor\_the\_Barbarian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/8edcca/32.png) [@Hentor\_the\_Barbarian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hentor_the_Barbarian)\
**Post date:** [June 25, 2012, 6:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-notokay-for-convincing-the-entire-board-umkay-had-died/626044/632 "2012-06-25T18:02:50Z")

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> [@ugly ripe tomato](#):
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> Stephen Hawking is dead, too ☹

Heart attack during a bout of passionate love making, wasn’t it?

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**Author:** ![Nzinga\_Seated](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/b5ac83/32.png) [@Nzinga\_Seated](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Nzinga_Seated)\
**Post date:** [June 25, 2012, 6:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-notokay-for-convincing-the-entire-board-umkay-had-died/626044/633 "2012-06-25T18:03:36Z")

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> [@gonzoron](#):
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> Sure, be skeptical of every damn thing. why not?
> 
> Like I said before, I don’t think any of the evidence ever crossed over from “highly suspicious” to “conclusive,” no matter how many people call it “proof.” I would have loved to see if **umkay** ever addressed the sezyoo charges. Now she can’t. Bravo. The SDMB is now safe from trolls.
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> I’m not saying **umkay** is real. I’m not even saying it’s likely. I’m saying her troll-itude has not been proven 100% to a level of rigor that would be to my liking. But since I’m not in charge here, that really doesn’t matter, does it?

It’s not a math equation. You don’t need no damn 100% proof.  
ETA:  
[QUOTE=cochrane]  
Edit - didn’t see umkay was banned. Can I have my humble pie a la mode?  
[/QUOTE]

**dumps a scoop of vanilla swirl on cochrane’s pie** Tell Bricka and Jman to come on heah, now! Hurry and git it, ice cream’s melting!

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**Author:** ![TriPolar](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tripolar/32/3008_2.png) [@TriPolar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TriPolar)\
**Post date:** [June 25, 2012, 6:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-notokay-for-convincing-the-entire-board-umkay-had-died/626044/634 "2012-06-25T18:04:17Z")

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> [@gonzoron](#):
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> Now she can’t.

Is something stopping umkay from emailing the admins with some evidence that she has been wronged?

And BTW, anybody seen Trollhunter? I really liked that movie. Now there’s a troll problem.

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**Author:** ![Fenris](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fenris/32/498_2.png) [@Fenris](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fenris)\
**Post date:** [June 25, 2012, 6:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-notokay-for-convincing-the-entire-board-umkay-had-died/626044/635 "2012-06-25T18:05:29Z")

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> [@hentor the barbarian](#):
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> heart attack during a bout of passionate love making, wasn’t it?

these are lies! I never died!

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**Author:** ![Invisible\_Chimp](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/f05b48/32.png) [@Invisible\_Chimp](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Invisible_Chimp)\
**Post date:** [June 25, 2012, 6:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-notokay-for-convincing-the-entire-board-umkay-had-died/626044/636 "2012-06-25T18:07:35Z")

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> [@Fenris](#):
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> So…you can trust me, Stephen Hawking, Super-Hero. PM me your bank account info. You can be sure I’ll use the info wisely and only to benefit you. I mean, there’s no proof that I’m not.
> 
> Seriously dude. Swamp-land in Florida. You’ll make a billion-zillion dollars.

It’s a completely different game when people are trying to troll people out of money. Sympathy trolls are simply sad fucks, mostly harmless, and should be pitied, not hated.

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**Author:** ![Azeotrope](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/0ea827/32.png) [@Azeotrope](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Azeotrope)\
**Post date:** [June 25, 2012, 6:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-notokay-for-convincing-the-entire-board-umkay-had-died/626044/637 "2012-06-25T18:08:34Z")

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> [@Fenris](#):
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> these are lies! I never died!

Hush up, you, you’re dead! And it was indeed during a passionate bout of lovemaking, but that skanky little minx Jailbait wouldn’t share :mad:

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**Author:** ![Jman](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jman/32/4416_2.png) [@Jman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jman)\
**Post date:** [June 25, 2012, 6:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-notokay-for-convincing-the-entire-board-umkay-had-died/626044/638 "2012-06-25T18:09:55Z")

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> [@Nzinga\_Seated](#):
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> **dumps a scoop of vanilla swirl on cochrane’s pie** Tell Bricka and Jman to come on heah, now! Hurry and git it, ice cream’s melting!

Just in case you hadn’t noticed, I have not claimed umkay was ‘real’ since the whole sezyoo thing came to light. I fully admit I was wrong and have several times.

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**Author:** ![cmyk](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cmyk/32/3353_2.png) [@cmyk](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cmyk)\
**Post date:** [June 25, 2012, 6:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-notokay-for-convincing-the-entire-board-umkay-had-died/626044/639 "2012-06-25T18:10:06Z")

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> [@olivesmarch4th](#):
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> Happened to me. I left for about three months IIRC. And it was not a pleasant three months.
> 
> Though I do feel that if you have that strong of an emotional reaction to events on a message board, it’s a sign you have to get right with yourself. I feel like posters ought to show a bit of decorum when playing Jr. Detective, but I also feel that the accused is responsible for how s/he reacts to such rudeness.

Well, I can personally vouch that you are who you claim to be. Of course, no one knows if _I’m_ for real!

Seriously though, I missed that entirely. But a perfect example then of the accused rising above bullshit when it runs the other way. As distressing as I’m sure it was at the time, you aren’t some delicate flower who runs away from accusations in self-pity, and that’s the way we like 'em here.

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**Author:** ![fifty-six](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/5daacb/32.png) [@fifty-six](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/fifty-six)\
**Post date:** [June 25, 2012, 6:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-notokay-for-convincing-the-entire-board-umkay-had-died/626044/640 "2012-06-25T18:15:41Z")

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I think **umkay** is Chloe Jennings-White

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