# I Pit NotOkay for convincing the entire board umkay had died! **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [June 23, 2012, 7:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-notokay-for-convincing-the-entire-board-umkay-had-died/626044 "2012-06-23T07:01:37Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 38
**Author:** ![dngnb8](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/977dab/32.png) [@dngnb8](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dngnb8)\ **Post date:** [June 25, 2012, 10:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-notokay-for-convincing-the-entire-board-umkay-had-died/626044/741 "2012-06-25T22:21:15Z")
> [@BMalion](#): > > I was completely taken in. > > But then, I’m home all day. I needed a hobby, oh well. > [@Drunky\_Smurf](#): > > I got suckered but it was still a fun ride. There are more of these comments in this thread and I was thinking, why suckered? I mean, what do any of us really know about the boards population but what it typed. Some of you may know others IRL, but for the most part, its post and either accept it or not. This happens all the time on MBs. ---
**Author:** ![hajario](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hajario/32/171_2.png) [@hajario](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/hajario)\ **Post date:** [June 25, 2012, 10:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-notokay-for-convincing-the-entire-board-umkay-had-died/626044/742 "2012-06-25T22:27:42Z")
> [@mutantmoose](#): > > Have the mods checked to see if NotOK had the same IP as Um? Um wasn’t that stupid. If umkay=notok, then she used a proxy for the one notok post. ---
**Author:** ![ENugent](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/4af34b/32.png) [@ENugent](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ENugent)\ **Post date:** [June 25, 2012, 10:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-notokay-for-convincing-the-entire-board-umkay-had-died/626044/743 "2012-06-25T22:29:17Z")
> [@mutantmoose](#): > > Have the mods checked to see if NotOK had the same IP as Um? Have you considered that if NotOkay had been legit, maybe they _should_ have been posting from the same IP? He was supposed to be her brother, right, and presumably was on the scene. ---
**Author:** ![Crazyhorse](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/crazyhorse/32/31_2.png) [@Crazyhorse](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Crazyhorse)\ **Post date:** [June 25, 2012, 10:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-notokay-for-convincing-the-entire-board-umkay-had-died/626044/744 "2012-06-25T22:31:18Z")
> [@Marley23](#): > > There’s only one person involved in this who should be ashamed (leaving the possibility of delusions out of it). I am glad if you don’t feel taken advantage of or that you’ve lost anything of consequence here, but other people might, and I’m not eager to see that happen again. Being skeptical is not a character flaw - particularly not here - so please don’t treat this as a moral issue. Being openhearted is great, but being a sucker is not, whether it’s by temperament or by choice. You can be one and not the other just like you can be skeptical without being negative or nasty or suspicious. I agree 100% - I wasn’t trying to say that it’s a bad idea to be skeptical in general, or not to believe any part of any post at any time for any reason. Just that it is dickish to rub people’s noses in it for choosing to accept a post for what it was presented to be when they had nothing to lose by doing so. It would actually be dickish to do that even if someone took a leap of faith in a situation where they did have something to lose, but at least then the mocker would have a point about why it is important not to do that. ---
**Author:** ![Napier](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/ce73a5/32.png) [@Napier](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Napier)\ **Post date:** [June 25, 2012, 10:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-notokay-for-convincing-the-entire-board-umkay-had-died/626044/745 "2012-06-25T22:33:01Z")
> [@Napier](#): > > I hereby agree to feel foolish about it if it turns out umkay wasn’t real. O my goodness me. I feel foolish. I was fooled. Still, the next chance that comes around, I’m putting my heart back out there again. That’s what it’s for. By “that”, I mean putting it out there, not getting fooled per se. Even so, it HAS been fascinating, hasn’t it? ---
**Author:** ![Earl\_Snake-Hips\_Tucker](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/earl_snake-hips_tucker/32/3269_2.png) [@Earl\_Snake-Hips\_Tucker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Earl_Snake-Hips_Tucker)\ **Post date:** [June 25, 2012, 10:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-notokay-for-convincing-the-entire-board-umkay-had-died/626044/746 "2012-06-25T22:34:32Z")
> [@Alice\_The\_Goon](#): > > Did you see the OTT emotional responses to the death, and again when it was revealed that there was no death? Trolls live for that shit. And, as I said before, someone is probably having a ball watching this feeding frenzy. ---
**Author:** ![Astroboy14](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/df705f/32.png) [@Astroboy14](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Astroboy14)\ **Post date:** [June 25, 2012, 10:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-notokay-for-convincing-the-entire-board-umkay-had-died/626044/747 "2012-06-25T22:37:09Z")
> [@Earl\_Snake-Hips\_Tucker](#): > > And, as I said before, someone is probably having a ball watching this feeding frenzy. Actually, a whole bunch of us are… ---
**Author:** ![hajario](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hajario/32/171_2.png) [@hajario](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/hajario)\ **Post date:** [June 25, 2012, 10:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-notokay-for-convincing-the-entire-board-umkay-had-died/626044/748 "2012-06-25T22:38:21Z")
> [@ENugent](#): > > Have you considered that if NotOkay had been legit, maybe they _should_ have been posting from the same IP? He was supposed to be her brother, right, and presumably was on the scene. At first that would have made sense, of course. We were talking about _after_ umkay came back and had not died. ---
**Author:** ![RTFirefly](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/c77e96/32.png) [@RTFirefly](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RTFirefly)\ **Post date:** [June 25, 2012, 10:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-notokay-for-convincing-the-entire-board-umkay-had-died/626044/749 "2012-06-25T22:50:19Z")
> [@pseudotriton\_ruber\_ruber](#): > > AH, the old vague-and-unsubstantiatable charge of “lying.” WHAT am I lying about? Y’know, in the portion of your post I quoted, you made exactly **one** claim about what I’d said. Just look up the page, it’s still there. Even **you** should be able to count to one. And maybe, just maybe, if you stretch yourself to the max, you ought to be able to figure out how many ways there are to choose one thing from a set of one. And as an extra-credit exercise, you might actually _do_ so. Ah, forget it. You’re too dumb to count to one, and you can’t really lie because you haven’t acquired the mental sophistication to grasp ‘true’ and ‘false.’ ---
**Author:** ![pseudotriton\_ruber\_ruber](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/a9a28c/32.png) [@pseudotriton\_ruber\_ruber](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pseudotriton_ruber_ruber)\ **Post date:** [June 25, 2012, 10:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-notokay-for-convincing-the-entire-board-umkay-had-died/626044/750 "2012-06-25T22:56:23Z")
> [@RTFirefly](#): > > Y’know, in the portion of your post I quoted, you made exactly **one** claim about what I’d said. > > Just look up the page, it’s still there. > > Even **you** should be able to count to one. > > And maybe, just maybe, if you stretch yourself to the max, you ought to be able to figure out how many ways there are to choose one thing from a set of one. > > And as an extra-credit exercise, you might actually _do_ so. > > Ah, forget it. You’re too dumb to count to one, and you can’t really lie because you haven’t acquired the mental sophistication to grasp ‘true’ and ‘false.’ Can anyone parse this complicated bullshit and guess what **RTF** is accusing me of lying about? ---
**Author:** ![Beastly\_Rotter](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/45deac/32.png) [@Beastly\_Rotter](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Beastly_Rotter)\ **Post date:** [June 25, 2012, 11:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-notokay-for-convincing-the-entire-board-umkay-had-died/626044/751 "2012-06-25T23:21:07Z")
> [@Napier](#): > > Still, the next chance that comes around, I’m putting my heart back out there again. That’s what it’s for. Just as long as that’s the only thing you do have out next time. > [@](#): > > umkay, welcome back. I love you. That is, I love whom you appear here to be, on the basis of my current understanding. I mean, in so far as somebody could love somebody else on the basis of a few week’s acquaintance in a discussion forum on the anonymous and unverifiable Web. Wow, what a ride. Calm down, Napier. The point is I am very happy to have you back. ---
**Author:** ![emcee2k](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7bcc69/32.png) [@emcee2k](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/emcee2k)\ **Post date:** [June 25, 2012, 11:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-notokay-for-convincing-the-entire-board-umkay-had-died/626044/752 "2012-06-25T23:32:50Z")
> [@Bootis](#): > > …I think hoaxer trolls that are at all successful get too much credit, because they are rare, but the reason they are rare is because the majority of trolls are too stupid to be good at it, and people who are smart enough to be able to pull it off just tend to have better things to do with their time. I think they get too much credit, because no one wants to admit they were fooled by an amateur. I don’t really think **umkay** fooled _that_ many people, anyway. Not everyone has an uncontrollable urge to run in and scream “troll!” every time their bullshit sense tingles. And I think even most of those who seemed to be taken in, had to have some inkling, on some level. Maybe they just _wanted_ to play along. Some people get as much out of giving sympathy as others get from receiving it. ---
**Author:** ![billfish678](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/7bcc69/32.png) [@billfish678](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/billfish678)\ **Post date:** [June 25, 2012, 11:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-notokay-for-convincing-the-entire-board-umkay-had-died/626044/753 "2012-06-25T23:35:12Z")
Fuck, Fuck, Fuck. I am a sympathy whore and I never knew it till now! ---
**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\ **Post date:** [June 25, 2012, 11:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-notokay-for-convincing-the-entire-board-umkay-had-died/626044/754 "2012-06-25T23:39:42Z")
I’m glad I didn’t read the “Ask the Girl in the Wheelchair” thread. ---
**Author:** ![Alice\_The\_Goon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ed8c4c/32.png) [@Alice\_The\_Goon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Alice_The_Goon)\ **Post date:** [June 25, 2012, 11:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-notokay-for-convincing-the-entire-board-umkay-had-died/626044/755 "2012-06-25T23:43:09Z")
I started to read it, but then found her and the fawning to be all a bit too much so I quit it before my eye-rolling muscles got overextended. The aftermath has been extraordinarily entertaining, though. ---
**Author:** ![SubaRhubarb](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ecd19e/32.png) [@SubaRhubarb](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SubaRhubarb)\ **Post date:** [June 25, 2012, 11:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-notokay-for-convincing-the-entire-board-umkay-had-died/626044/756 "2012-06-25T23:45:02Z")
> [@Napier](#): > > O my goodness me. I feel foolish. I was fooled. > > Still, the next chance that comes around, I’m putting my heart back out there again. That’s what it’s for. -Quote snipped by me I am not a doctor, but I think the heart is supposed to supply blood to your brain. Perhaps tuck your heart back inside for a bit and see if you recover your senses. 😃 ---
**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\ **Post date:** [June 25, 2012, 11:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-notokay-for-convincing-the-entire-board-umkay-had-died/626044/757 "2012-06-25T23:47:32Z")
> [@billfish678](#): > > Fuck, Fuck, Fuck. > > I am a sympathy whore and I never knew it till now! Could you spare a couple of thou for my Mother’s operation? ---
**Author:** ![RTFirefly](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/c77e96/32.png) [@RTFirefly](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RTFirefly)\ **Post date:** [June 25, 2012, 11:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-notokay-for-convincing-the-entire-board-umkay-had-died/626044/758 "2012-06-25T23:51:40Z")
> [@pseudotriton\_ruber\_ruber](#): > > Can anyone parse this complicated bullshit and guess what **RTF** is accusing me of lying about? Wouldn’t that be dependent on an accusation of lying? Oh, that’s right - my last post was over your head. Who knew? Maybe you can get Miss Connie at Romper Room to explain it to you. ---
**Author:** ![Nzinga\_Seated](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/b5ac83/32.png) [@Nzinga\_Seated](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Nzinga_Seated)\ **Post date:** [June 25, 2012, 11:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-notokay-for-convincing-the-entire-board-umkay-had-died/626044/759 "2012-06-25T23:54:59Z")
> [@RTFirefly](#): > > Wouldn’t that be dependent on an accusation of lying? > > Oh, that’s right - my last post was over your head. Who knew? > > Maybe you can get Miss Connie at Romper Room to explain it to you. I will pay you 1 million dollars to speak plainly, man. ---
**Author:** ![pseudotriton\_ruber\_ruber](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/a9a28c/32.png) [@pseudotriton\_ruber\_ruber](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pseudotriton_ruber_ruber)\ **Post date:** [June 25, 2012, 11:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-notokay-for-convincing-the-entire-board-umkay-had-died/626044/760 "2012-06-25T23:55:19Z")
> [@RTFirefly](#): > > Wouldn’t that be dependent on an accusation of lying? > > Oh, that’s right - my last post was over your head. Who knew? > > Maybe you can get Miss Connie at Romper Room to explain it to you. Yeah, cuz it would be hard for you to quote the sentence where I’m telling lies about you. Do you think anyone is buying this doubletalk you’re trying to peddle? You are pathetic. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-notokay-for-convincing-the-entire-board-umkay-had-died/626044.md?page=37) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-notokay-for-convincing-the-entire-board-umkay-had-died/626044.md?page=39)