# I Pit NotOkay for convincing the entire board umkay had died!

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**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [June 23, 2012, 7:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-notokay-for-convincing-the-entire-board-umkay-had-died/626044 "2012-06-23T07:01:37Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Cheshire\_Human](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/5f8ce5/32.png) [@Cheshire\_Human](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cheshire_Human)\
**Post date:** [June 26, 2012, 4:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-notokay-for-convincing-the-entire-board-umkay-had-died/626044/801 "2012-06-26T04:22:38Z")

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> [@pseudotriton\_ruber\_ruber](#):
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> Can anyone parse this complicated bullshit and guess what **RTF** is accusing me of lying about?

No, but then again, I look at who **RTF** is saying it _about_, and I stop giving a shit. I’ll take it on faith.

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**Author:** ![Nzinga\_Seated](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/b5ac83/32.png) [@Nzinga\_Seated](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Nzinga_Seated)\
**Post date:** [June 26, 2012, 4:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-notokay-for-convincing-the-entire-board-umkay-had-died/626044/802 "2012-06-26T04:29:06Z")

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> [@Cheshire\_Human](#):
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> … Keep feeding the Trolls, people. Trolls need nourishment, too…

Oh, I would say everyone is getting nice and fat off this one. If a troll can deliver the funnies, why we’d be just wasteful not to partake. There are starving trolls in Africa.

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**Author:** ![drewtwo99](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/d07c76/32.png) [@drewtwo99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/drewtwo99)\
**Post date:** [June 26, 2012, 4:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-notokay-for-convincing-the-entire-board-umkay-had-died/626044/803 "2012-06-26T04:47:07Z")

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I am just really glad to have been a part of all of this. Yes, I believed umkay’s story (not the Notokay thing though), and I really enjoyed the thread. I remember someone got some good advice and encouragement to fight for better treatment for a loved one who had suffered a paralyzing injury, so that’s good too. I learned a lot about quadripalegia, and it was a blast.

None of that is lessened by the fact that it was just a troll this whole time. Most useful troll in message board history, I’d have to say. He/she may have saved someone’s life by inspiring one poster to advocate for better health care for their family member. That’s pretty awesome.

Also, please don’t take this as me saying that this excuses or makes up for the trolling. I’m definitely not saying that. A troll is a troll and umkay deserves to be banned and hated for years to come, and to serve as an example to everyone why you shouldn’t be so trusting.

Thanks to everyone with sensitive bullshit meters, and thanks for all the great laughs. I definitely have a few new “favorite posters” thanks to this thread and the outing of umkay. Overall, I couldn’t get better entertainment out of a 50 dollar video game or a 10 dollar movie ticket.

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**Author:** ![Cheshire\_Human](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/5f8ce5/32.png) [@Cheshire\_Human](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cheshire_Human)\
**Post date:** [June 26, 2012, 4:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-notokay-for-convincing-the-entire-board-umkay-had-died/626044/804 "2012-06-26T04:47:34Z")

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> [@billfish678](#):
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> Fuck, Fuck, Fuck.
> 
> I am a sympathy whore and I never knew it till now!

Well, maybe you knew it, after all. Certainly _now_, but better than a year or two ago, when you were suspected of being a USN Submariner Wannabe troll. You handled that accusation… umm… badly. But then it turned out that you were playing the accuser well. That was a good troll of an idiot who thought you were making a claim that you weren’t. We need you in the “Troll Illuminati”…

We could rule _the world_ with people like you. 😉

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**Author:** ![Cheshire\_Human](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/5f8ce5/32.png) [@Cheshire\_Human](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cheshire_Human)\
**Post date:** [June 26, 2012, 4:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-notokay-for-convincing-the-entire-board-umkay-had-died/626044/805 "2012-06-26T04:53:33Z")

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> [@Nzinga\_Seated](#):
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> Oh, I would say everyone is getting nice and fat off this one. If a troll can deliver the funnies, why we’d be just wasteful not to partake. There are starving trolls in Africa.

And this is why I love you. Sight unseen.

;);), nudge. _Say no more_!!!one!eleven!1!11!

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**Author:** ![Sierra\_Indigo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/f0a364/32.png) [@Sierra\_Indigo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sierra_Indigo)\
**Post date:** [June 26, 2012, 5:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-notokay-for-convincing-the-entire-board-umkay-had-died/626044/806 "2012-06-26T05:02:20Z")

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> [@Cheshire\_Human](#):
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> Keep feeding the Trolls, people. Trolls need nourishment, too…

If you’re going to feed a troll, make sure to spay or neuter it so it doesn’t roam or spray on the doorposts.

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**Author:** ![billfish678](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/7bcc69/32.png) [@billfish678](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/billfish678)\
**Post date:** [June 26, 2012, 5:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-notokay-for-convincing-the-entire-board-umkay-had-died/626044/807 "2012-06-26T05:03:25Z")

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> [@Cheshire\_Human](#):
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> Well, maybe you knew it, after all. Certainly _now_, but better than a year or two ago, when you were suspected of being a USN Submariner Wannabe troll. You handled that accusation… umm… badly. **But then it turned out that you were playing the accuser well. That was a good troll of an idiot who thought you were making a claim that you weren’t**. We need you in the “Troll Illuminati”…
> 
> We could rule _the world_ with people like you. 😉

That bolded part made me dizzy with the convoluted logic. Then again I make myself dizzy with that sorta thing.

Hey, I handle MOST accusations, both real AND imaginary badly…mostly because I am almost guilty of all of them (except that kinky assed Hal Briston shit).

[![](https://i.ytimg.com/vi/Fc7rhuwJW0k/hqdefault.jpg?sqp=-oaymwEmCOADEOgC8quKqQMa8AEB-AH-BIAC4AOKAgwIABABGGUgZShlMA8=&rs=AOn4CLAfdzXaYijxurg1mS14eI_KqmBvzg "TEARS FOR FEARS - Everybody Wants To Rule The World") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fc7rhuwJW0k)

And fracking thanks. I’lll be up all damn night listening to 80’s music videos now.

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**Author:** ![Cheshire\_Human](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/5f8ce5/32.png) [@Cheshire\_Human](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cheshire_Human)\
**Post date:** [June 26, 2012, 5:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-notokay-for-convincing-the-entire-board-umkay-had-died/626044/808 "2012-06-26T05:11:49Z")

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> [@Sierra\_Indigo](#):
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> If you’re going to feed a troll, make sure to spay or neuter it so it doesn’t roam or spray on the doorposts.

Shut up, you Ozzie bitch! I’m on a roll!

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**Author:** ![Cheshire\_Human](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/5f8ce5/32.png) [@Cheshire\_Human](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cheshire_Human)\
**Post date:** [June 26, 2012, 5:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-notokay-for-convincing-the-entire-board-umkay-had-died/626044/809 "2012-06-26T05:17:55Z")

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> [@billfish678](#):
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> That bolded part made me dizzy with the convoluted logic. Then again I make myself dizzy with that sorta thing.
> 
> Hey, I handle MOST accusations, both real AND imaginary badly…mostly because I am almost guilty of all of them (except that kinky assed Hal Briston shit).
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> [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fc7rhuwJW0k](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fc7rhuwJW0k)
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> And fracking thanks. I’lll be up all damn night listening to 80’s music videos now.

Just make sure you listen to… UmmmKay… I can’t tell you. You’ll know, if you’re the right _sort of_ people… We’re _watching_ what you listen to. Watch your PMs…

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**Author:** ![billfish678](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/7bcc69/32.png) [@billfish678](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/billfish678)\
**Post date:** [June 26, 2012, 5:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-notokay-for-convincing-the-entire-board-umkay-had-died/626044/810 "2012-06-26T05:18:24Z")

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Hey, if you gotta link of how stupid/crazy/clever? I was back then I’d like it. It’s always fun to see how stupid you (I ) were back then.

PMs? shit, I check those things like every other year or so.

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**Author:** ![The\_Dord](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/3be4f8/32.png) [@The\_Dord](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Dord)\
**Post date:** [June 26, 2012, 5:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-notokay-for-convincing-the-entire-board-umkay-had-died/626044/811 "2012-06-26T05:20:30Z")

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> [@Bob Ducca](#):
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> Please tell me I’m not the only person that thinks \*\*Tapu \*\*is **Umkay**.

That would be a really dirty and lulzy thing to do :eek:

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**Author:** ![al27052](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/41988e/32.png) [@al27052](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/al27052)\
**Post date:** [June 26, 2012, 5:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-notokay-for-convincing-the-entire-board-umkay-had-died/626044/812 "2012-06-26T05:28:11Z")

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> [@Nzinga\_Seated](#):
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> Oh, I would say everyone is getting nice and fat off this one. If a troll can deliver the funnies, why we’d be just wasteful not to partake. There are starving trolls in Africa.

This was well-done.

_golf clap_

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**Author:** ![Cheshire\_Human](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/5f8ce5/32.png) [@Cheshire\_Human](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cheshire_Human)\
**Post date:** [June 26, 2012, 5:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-notokay-for-convincing-the-entire-board-umkay-had-died/626044/813 "2012-06-26T05:33:27Z")

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> [@billfish678](#):
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> Hey, if you gotta link of how stupid/crazy/clever? I was back then I’d like it. It’s always fun to see how stupid you (I ) were back then.
> 
> PMs? shit, I check those things like every other year or so.

Just reference “Billfish” the submarine, and SSN 678. A year ago, someone brought that up. Look at your own posts, and look at your own response to that… We want you in our “world domination” conspiracy. You answered that _well_. We have a _world_ to rule. Stop harshing our buzz, man. Just join our damn conspiracy, already.

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**Author:** ![billfish678](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/7bcc69/32.png) [@billfish678](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/billfish678)\
**Post date:** [June 26, 2012, 5:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-notokay-for-convincing-the-entire-board-umkay-had-died/626044/814 "2012-06-26T05:49:50Z")

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Dude

1 Its the middle of the night.

2 I am a computer search retard.

3 You have a better idea of what you are refering to than me

Hey, it rings a bell… but I am too stupid/lazy/tired to find it.

As for the Bill Fish 678 and anything have to do with USN nukes and subs…thats pretty funny because my name choice and the numbers have nothing to do with that…which makes it EVEN funnier because you could argue I could have possibly ended up on a USN nuke sub at three different points in my life…and have interacted with people that have…

Hint…sometimes my cleverness is random stupidity and quite often my random stupidity may look like random cleverness 🙂

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**Author:** ![Ambivalid](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/a5b964/32.png) [@Ambivalid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ambivalid)\
**Post date:** [June 26, 2012, 5:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-notokay-for-convincing-the-entire-board-umkay-had-died/626044/815 "2012-06-26T05:55:35Z")

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> [@drewtwo99](#):
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> None of that is lessened by the fact that it was just a troll this whole time.
> 
> A troll is a troll and umkay deserves to be banned and hated for years to come

I don’t think this person was really a troll; not in the typical sense. This was a “pretender” from the DPW spectrum (devotees, pretenders and wannabees). This is someone who wants, so _very badly_, to be a quadriplegic that it becomes their life. Now in order to be a good “pretender”, a person must become familiar with _everything conceivable_ about the day-to-day goings-on related to the particular disability they are faking. Even down to the most mundane, miniscule detail. It is in this sense that a pretender can actually be _more_ knowledgeable about the specific information about their disabilities than even some real disabled people. They’ve actually sought the info out and studied in, consumed it, and have to keep it constantly in the forefront.

I wonder what this person, **sez-kay** , is like in real life. I wonder how extensively the pretending carries over. Does (s)he (I actually do think this is a woman) use a wheelchair? Pretending to be quadriplegic would seem to be mighty difficult in real life, most pretenders that I’ve read about have been paraplegic pretenders. But the internet gives limitless pretend possibilities; as evidenced by her multiple hoaxes on multiple boards. I’m sure there’s more.

But at the core, with all the DPW (yes, even devotees), _of course_ is an illness. These pretenders _really do_ feel happiness when they live as disabled. They feel as though it is the way they are meant to live. Wannabees actually take this a step further and mutilate their bodies in order to permanently disable themselves. So I don’t think “hate” is the right thing to feel here; not at all. Perhaps empathy and a little pity; these people are suffering through some fucked up psychological trauma of some sort and I can only think they hurt.

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**Author:** ![Cheshire\_Human](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/5f8ce5/32.png) [@Cheshire\_Human](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cheshire_Human)\
**Post date:** [June 26, 2012, 5:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-notokay-for-convincing-the-entire-board-umkay-had-died/626044/816 "2012-06-26T05:56:14Z")

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Pause, Rewind, Warm memory chip…

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**Author:** ![MeanOldLady](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/meanoldlady/32/10737_2.png) [@MeanOldLady](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MeanOldLady)\
**Post date:** [June 26, 2012, 6:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-notokay-for-convincing-the-entire-board-umkay-had-died/626044/817 "2012-06-26T06:24:19Z")

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> [@Ambivalid](#):
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> Nope, I believe this WAS a pretender. I initially thought it was devotee but after **Umkay’s** vitriolic response after being “outed” here, in which she replied to one of my posts in which I had levelled the accusation of her really being a devotee lying about who he/she was, she told me what a “dipshit” I was for “mixing up my diagnoses”.

Ah hmm.

Jamie, you can keep it real with me. I won’t tell anybody. You thought she was a phony all along, didn’t you? I know you were all up in this thread like, “O, but WHY would anyone do that?” but your responses to her devotee and “Ask the miracle quad” threads can best be described as “:dubious:”. I was reading those and thinking, “He thinks she’s full of shit.”

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**Author:** ![pseudotriton\_ruber\_ruber](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/a9a28c/32.png) [@pseudotriton\_ruber\_ruber](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pseudotriton_ruber_ruber)\
**Post date:** [June 26, 2012, 9:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-notokay-for-convincing-the-entire-board-umkay-had-died/626044/818 "2012-06-26T09:57:58Z")

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> [@RTFirefly](#):
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> Man, you’re stupid: that was the first thing I did.
> 
> I’d tell you which post, but we’ve already determined that ‘one’ is too complicated a concept for you. So I think we’ll have to consider this discussion to be at an end.

Well, we’re at am impasse, then. But I’m not going to let you wriggle off so easily, so I’ll quote the most recent post in which you’ve quoted me (three times, not once) and let you explain which part you’ve quoted is a lie about you:

> [@](#):
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> Quote:  
> Originally Posted by pseudotriton ruber ruber  
> So how do you explain the “very thin circumstantial evidence” being dead on the money? Maybe it wasn’t so thin?
> 
> _Sometimes. The. Long. Odds. Bet. Pays. Off._  
> Quote:  
> Maybe you need to adjust your gullibility meter?
> 
> \*Maybe. You. Shouldn’t. Twist. People’s. Words. \*Quote:  
> Perhaps you need to take a breath and count to 10,000 the next time you decide to call someone an asshole for expressing a view that happens not to coincide with your own?
> 
> \*See. Above. \*

The parts I’ve put in italics is you. Again, which non-italic parts are a lie?

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**Author:** ![pseudotriton\_ruber\_ruber](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/a9a28c/32.png) [@pseudotriton\_ruber\_ruber](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pseudotriton_ruber_ruber)\
**Post date:** [June 26, 2012, 10:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-notokay-for-convincing-the-entire-board-umkay-had-died/626044/819 "2012-06-26T10:01:57Z")

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Oh, and that was from your post #654. See how it easy it is to be specific when you really want to be?

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**Author:** ![Jman](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jman/32/4416_2.png) [@Jman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jman)\
**Post date:** [June 26, 2012, 10:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-notokay-for-convincing-the-entire-board-umkay-had-died/626044/820 "2012-06-26T10:21:53Z")

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Dear lord, man…you really don’t know how to let things go, do you?

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