# I Pit NotOkay for convincing the entire board umkay had died! **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [June 23, 2012, 7:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-notokay-for-convincing-the-entire-board-umkay-had-died/626044 "2012-06-23T07:01:37Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 1\ **Showing post:** 724
**Author:** ![Crazyhorse](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/crazyhorse/32/31_2.png) [@Crazyhorse](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Crazyhorse)\ **Post date:** [June 25, 2012, 9:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-notokay-for-convincing-the-entire-board-umkay-had-died/626044/724 "2012-06-25T21:15:28Z")
“It is more shameful to distrust one’s friends than to be deceived by them.” I know many would say it is gullible to have treated umkay as one should treat a ‘friend’ with the story they came in with. Why? Obviously because they are an anonymous person on a message board, not a friend, that’s why. But that is also the same reason there was nothing at stake, nothing to be won or lost, by taking them at face value. It was an entertaining thread. Interesting, and full of information, some actual, some imagined, but almost all entertaining. As I said earlier in the thread before the mommy board evidence, umkay paid more in time and thoughtful post composition than anyone else spent in reading or replying to them. Nobody had anything to lose, whether they bought it hook line and sinker, or approached the situation with due skepticism and eyes-wide open but simply chose to read posts as written without looking for evidence to disprove them, or even any desire to know one way or the other. umkay has always been and remains exactly what anyone should have ever expected them to be - an anonymous person writing posts on an internet forum. There are board rules against massive misrepresentations and they were exposed and banned, but anyone gloating about how anyone else was gullible or naive is the one who just doesn’t get it. There was no reason to be paranoid or suspicious, unless you put so much into what you read on the internet that you felt you had something at stake if you bought the story and turned out to be misled. You need to have some sense that they would ‘win’ and you would ‘lose’ in order to care one way or the other. If you think anyone had that much at stake you may developing values very similar to those that a troll must have. Once presented with enough dirt uncovered by those who simply couldn’t rest until they exposed the fraud (with motivations that I very much agree were based on **Una Persson’s** description earlier) of course one has to accept them as likely proof (even if one was never looking for or hoping to find proof one way or the other). The biggest giveaway to me in the mommy board posts was the use of KWIM as noted by someone earlier, and also “over the moon” > [@sezyoo](#): > > There’s ALWAYS someone better off than you…and there’s ALWAYS someone worse off. KWIM? > [@Ask the Girl in the Wheelchair](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ask-the-girl-in-the-wheelchair/622436/54): > > I say, there’s always someone better off than you, and there’s always someone worse off. KWIM? > [@Ask the Girl in the Wheelchair](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ask-the-girl-in-the-wheelchair/622436/514): > > F\*ck hands. If I could just have one shoulder, one elbow, and one wrist back, I’d be over the moon. > [@sezyoo](#): > > Nevertheless, it’s been my and my husband’s dream to have a child together, and we are over the moon that we are about to > [@Beastly\_Rotter](#): > > Because they were feeding their fat fucking egos by gushing over the sweet cripple girl as being so BRAVE and INSPIRATIONAL, patting themselves on the back at how UNDERSTANDING and SUPPORTIVE they were. They would have done better to treat her as a human being with faults and failings instead of some fabulous zoo animal, then when the troll was exposed they would have had nothing to be ashamed of. That, though, would have meant not being able show their EMPATHY in a sickening fawning competition, though, and the idiots who got showed up deserve to be mocked for their dribbling credulity. Yes, and in all of your 4 months here have you ever seen… wait, who the hell are you? And why do you mostly participate in threads about trolling and socks? At least umkay’s posts were interesting and generally pleasant to read. But your post does shed a little light on something that has been puzzling me during this entire sideshow; why do people feel they have so much to gain or lose based on reading threads on a message board? We don’t know for sure who is posting any of them. Why should anyone feel foolish for taking something at face value when they have nothing at stake either way? I can see why though if they think others like you believe they deserve to be mocked for it. And if you want a little cheap psycho analysis for your problem read the last paragraph of post #518. --- _[View the full topic](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-notokay-for-convincing-the-entire-board-umkay-had-died/626044)._