# I pit Novelty Bobble

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-novelty-bobble/953914>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [November 6, 2021, 10:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-novelty-bobble/953914 "2021-11-06T22:48:39Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
**Page:** 13

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**Author:** ![crowmanyclouds](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/crowmanyclouds/32/19884_2.png) [@crowmanyclouds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/crowmanyclouds)\
**Post date:** [August 11, 2022, 8:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-novelty-bobble/953914/242 "2022-08-11T20:56:53Z")

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Too long! If you could keep your responses to fourteen words I’d appreciate it.

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**Author:** ![Mighty\_Mouse](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mighty_mouse/32/7776_2.png) [@Mighty\_Mouse](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mighty_Mouse)\
**Post date:** [August 11, 2022, 8:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-novelty-bobble/953914/243 "2022-08-11T20:58:25Z")

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Nobody is reading your screeds. People have jobs, families, sanity, good taste. All of which militate against reading your drivel.

This appears to be your full time job.

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**Author:** ![puzzlegal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/puzzlegal/32/3827_2.png) [@puzzlegal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/puzzlegal)\
**Post date:** [August 11, 2022, 9:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-novelty-bobble/953914/244 "2022-08-11T21:47:58Z")

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> [@crowmanyclouds](#):
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> Too long! If you could keep your responses to fourteen words I’d appreciate it.

That’s mean. 😆

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**Author:** ![Novelty\_Bobble](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/a3d4f5/32.png) [@Novelty\_Bobble](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Novelty_Bobble)\
**Post date:** [August 11, 2022, 9:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-novelty-bobble/953914/245 "2022-08-11T21:52:28Z")

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> [@Mighty\_Mouse](#):
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> Nobody is reading your screeds. People have jobs, families, sanity, good taste. All of which militate against reading your drivel.
> 
> This appears to be your full time job.

More of a diversion while important things are happening.

Still, weekend is coming so I’m going to turn my attention to other things and people that actually matter.

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**Author:** ![k9bfriender](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/k9bfriender/32/3283_2.png) [@k9bfriender](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/k9bfriender)\
**Post date:** [August 12, 2022, 1:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-novelty-bobble/953914/246 "2022-08-12T13:29:05Z")

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> [@Novelty\_Bobble](#):
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> Or if I’m wanting to know what the significance is of the number 88, perhaps that is a reasonable search term to use?

Either way works. But, it does require some level of effort on your part. Even though we are at the point where nearly all of human knowledge is at your fingertips, we aren’t at the point where it spoon feeds you.

> [@Novelty\_Bobble](#):
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> I was told specifically that 88 was significant because it was the number of a racing driver.

See, this is why you seem to be lacking in communication skills. That actually was not the reason that it was said to be relevant. To spoon feed you like the little whiny baby that you are, the reference to the race car driver is that a somewhat obscure use of the number is that of a relatively famous race car driver, and some people who put the numbers “88” in their name, claim that it is in honor of that driver, and they are somehow just as clueless as you when it comes to other possible meanings of the number.

And they are generally being just as disingenuous as you about it.

> [@Novelty\_Bobble](#):
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> What you are suffering from is an inability to imagine what it is like _not_ to know what 88 stands for. It is “the curse of knowledge” It is a known thing and you’ve fallen for it completely here.

No, I’m “suffering” from the curse of having nearly the entirety of human knowledge at my fingertips, and assuming that you have the same ability to use a search engine as I do. There was a time when I too, didn’t know what “88” referred to in terms of white supremacy, but this whole information infrastructure made possible by advances in technology made it pretty damn easy to alleviate that particular bit of ignorance.

Out of curiosity, do you know who Hitler was? Or do you need to be educated about that as well? I wouldn’t want to make any assumptions from my position of being “cursed with knowledge”. If you google the name you may see links about his art, just so you know, that’s not what he is best known for.

You are either incredibly stupid, or just straight up lying here. Honestly, I can’t really tell which. The problem with playing stupid like you have done here, is that sometimes, people actually believe you.

> [@Novelty\_Bobble](#):
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> The tapper cannot unknow what they know.
> 
> that is what you’ve done here.

This would be much more relevant to the “I know some people” construction that you used. _You_ supposedly know these people, and make the assumption that we would know them as well, and agree with you on your assessment of what they think. You are tapping a tune you think that we will dance to.

So, since we have done far above and beyond the call of duty in educating you in some of the symbology that white supremacist use to virtue signal and identify with each other, I ask you again, would you be able to explain who these “some people” are, and provide any sort of evidence that what you “know” they think has any sort of validity?

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**Author:** ![Mighty\_Mouse](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mighty_mouse/32/7776_2.png) [@Mighty\_Mouse](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mighty_Mouse)\
**Post date:** [August 12, 2022, 2:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-novelty-bobble/953914/247 "2022-08-12T14:01:50Z")

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> [@Novelty\_Bobble](#):
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> More of a diversion while important things are happening.

Quite a diversion, 50+ messages in 48 hours, many of them essay length. Unsurprisingly, it seems like you’d get a bonus for NOT working.

> [@Novelty\_Bobble](#):
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> Still, weekend is coming so I’m going to turn my attention to other things and people that actually matter.

Bwahahahaha!

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**Author:** ![crowmanyclouds](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/crowmanyclouds/32/19884_2.png) [@crowmanyclouds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/crowmanyclouds)\
**Post date:** [August 12, 2022, 2:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-novelty-bobble/953914/248 "2022-08-12T14:34:50Z")

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> [@Mighty\_Mouse](#):
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> Bwahahahaha!

I always read shit like that and think “Oh, you’re Starving Artisting?”

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**Author:** ![Great\_Antibob](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e47c2d/32.png) [@Great\_Antibob](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Great_Antibob)\
**Post date:** [August 12, 2022, 2:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-novelty-bobble/953914/249 "2022-08-12T14:39:03Z")

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No kidding.

Some people choose odd hills to die on. Defense of pedophilia (among other things) for SA and the use of racial slurs in polite society here.

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**Author:** ![Novelty\_Bobble](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/a3d4f5/32.png) [@Novelty\_Bobble](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Novelty_Bobble)\
**Post date:** [August 12, 2022, 2:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-novelty-bobble/953914/250 "2022-08-12T14:49:52Z")

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> [@k9bfriender](#):
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> That actually was not the reason that it was said to be relevant

That is an outright fabrication. Here are the two sequential posts

> [@Does the cancel culture need to extend this far?](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/does-the-cancel-culture-need-to-extend-this-far/969311/162):
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> what is the context-free word that you are referring to?  
> (and what is the relevance of 88?)

and note me asking it merely as a bracketed aside, no big thing. It wasn’t the major point of my question

and here is the reply I received _straightaway_ in response to my question.

> [@Does the cancel culture need to extend this far?](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/does-the-cancel-culture-need-to-extend-this-far/969311/163):
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> That was Dale Jarrett’s number.

So you are fond of specifics, there are the verifiable specifics that show you to be either a liar, lazy or manipulative. Take your pick.

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**Author:** ![Novelty\_Bobble](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/a3d4f5/32.png) [@Novelty\_Bobble](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Novelty_Bobble)\
**Post date:** [August 12, 2022, 2:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-novelty-bobble/953914/251 "2022-08-12T14:52:21Z")

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> [@Mighty\_Mouse](#):
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> Quite a diversion, 50+ messages in 48 hours, many of them essay length. Unsurprisingly, it seems like you’d get a bonus for NOT working.

Defending my position is no great hardship and is therapeutic.  
It is never a problem when you have a consistent position and no lies or false positions to remember.

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**Author:** ![Tfletch1](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tfletch1/32/5340_2.png) [@Tfletch1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tfletch1)\
**Post date:** [August 12, 2022, 2:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-novelty-bobble/953914/252 "2022-08-12T14:53:38Z")

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Sorry to interrupt the @Novelty_Bobble pitting, but, @Novelty_Bobble, are you an American working in the UK or are you a Brit working for an American company in the UK?

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**Author:** ![puzzlegal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/puzzlegal/32/3827_2.png) [@puzzlegal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/puzzlegal)\
**Post date:** [August 12, 2022, 3:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-novelty-bobble/953914/253 "2022-08-12T15:19:03Z")

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Ah. Someone made a joke reply, and it both went over your head and also, apparently, misled you.

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**Author:** ![Novelty\_Bobble](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/a3d4f5/32.png) [@Novelty\_Bobble](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Novelty_Bobble)\
**Post date:** [August 12, 2022, 3:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-novelty-bobble/953914/254 "2022-08-12T15:26:12Z")

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What exactly about that reply gives away that it is a joke?

I could only know it was a joke if I already knew what the relevance of the number was.

You haven’t read the link I provided on “the curse of knowledge” have you?

It would informative for you.

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**Author:** ![Novelty\_Bobble](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/a3d4f5/32.png) [@Novelty\_Bobble](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Novelty_Bobble)\
**Post date:** [August 12, 2022, 3:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-novelty-bobble/953914/255 "2022-08-12T15:26:47Z")

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The latter, on and off since 1998

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**Author:** ![Tfletch1](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tfletch1/32/5340_2.png) [@Tfletch1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tfletch1)\
**Post date:** [August 12, 2022, 3:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-novelty-bobble/953914/256 "2022-08-12T15:28:25Z")

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Just curious. Carry on. LOL.

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**Author:** ![crowmanyclouds](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/crowmanyclouds/32/19884_2.png) [@crowmanyclouds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/crowmanyclouds)\
**Post date:** [August 12, 2022, 3:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-novelty-bobble/953914/257 "2022-08-12T15:29:02Z")

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If fucking someone had fucking clicked on the fucking post just fucking five posts later we fucking wouldn’t be fucking doing this.

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**Author:** ![Novelty\_Bobble](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/a3d4f5/32.png) [@Novelty\_Bobble](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Novelty_Bobble)\
**Post date:** [August 12, 2022, 3:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-novelty-bobble/953914/258 "2022-08-12T15:34:37Z")

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So I’m going to draw a line under this now.

The only reason to post in here would be to defend what I said and counter the constant misrepresentation of my position.

It can be time consuming pulling out relevant quotes etc to prove that people do indeed do that. Thankfully k9bfriender has made it so much easier.

All I need to do is to point to their post 245 in this thread and my reply in 249 and that shows a perfect and irrefutable example of disingenuous and bad faith accusations.  
Easy for anyone to read and understand.

I have no other point to interact in here. The only thing I would type would be “see posts 245/249” there is nothing more to say. So just fill in that blank for yourselves.

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**Author:** ![Mighty\_Mouse](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mighty_mouse/32/7776_2.png) [@Mighty\_Mouse](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mighty_Mouse)\
**Post date:** [August 12, 2022, 3:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-novelty-bobble/953914/259 "2022-08-12T15:42:30Z")

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Literally only you in the entire world would read that and conclude you won any kind of argument.

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**Author:** ![Mighty\_Mouse](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mighty_mouse/32/7776_2.png) [@Mighty\_Mouse](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mighty_Mouse)\
**Post date:** [August 12, 2022, 3:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-novelty-bobble/953914/260 "2022-08-12T15:52:42Z")

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I guess it depends on how much funding the KKK has to employ UK communications consultants.

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**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\
**Post date:** [August 12, 2022, 4:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-novelty-bobble/953914/261 "2022-08-12T16:02:00Z")

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No, many others agree through private correspondence but NB won’t share those messages to preserve their privacy.

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