# I pit NOW for blatant hypocrisy **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [September 17, 2008, 8:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-now-for-blatant-hypocrisy/464033 "2008-09-17T20:55:12Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Plan\_B](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/3ec8ea/32.png) [@Plan\_B](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Plan_B)\ **Post date:** [September 17, 2008, 8:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-now-for-blatant-hypocrisy/464033/1 "2008-09-17T20:55:12Z")
From today’s Best of the Web Today: [http://online.wsj.com/article/SB122158807066443975.html](http://online.wsj.com/article/SB122158807066443975.html) > [@](#): > > NOW More Than Ever? > “The National Organization for Women (NOW) said Tuesday it had been pushed by the Republicans pick of Sarah Palin as vice presidential nominee to back Democrat Barack Obama for the White House,” Agence France-Presse reports: > > “NOW is going to be endorsing the Obama-Biden ticket,” NOW head Kim Gandy told National Public Radio (NPR), referring to Obama and his running mate Joseph Biden. > The 500,000-strong women’s movement, which “very, very rarely endorses in a general election,” broke with its tradition of neutrality after “the addition of Sarah Palin gave us a new sense of urgency,” said Gandy. > Its tradition of neutrality? Would that be the same tradition NOW was following when it endorsed Hillary Clinton last year, when it urged “all women to vote for John Kerry” in 2004, or when it undertook its “Bush Whacker campaign” in 2000? Does it get any more dishonest than this? I have no problem with people who feel that pro-life inevitably means anti-women. I disagree, especially if that’s used as a litmus test for a person or a candidate, but I can understand the point of view. But claims of neutrality? Give me a break! ---
**Author:** ![mhendo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mhendo/32/3159_2.png) [@mhendo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mhendo)\ **Post date:** [September 17, 2008, 9:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-now-for-blatant-hypocrisy/464033/2 "2008-09-17T21:08:40Z")
> [@Plan\_B](#): > > From today’s Best of the Web Today: > [http://online.wsj.com/article/SB122158807066443975.html](http://online.wsj.com/article/SB122158807066443975.html) > > Does it get any more dishonest than this? I have no problem with people who feel that pro-life inevitably means anti-women. I disagree, especially if that’s used as a litmus test for a person or a candidate, but I can understand the point of view. > > But claims of neutrality? Give me a break! Yeah, i was pretty amazed at that. I’m actually on NOW’s email list, and have been for a few years, and i constantly receive emails from them asking me to support one Democratic candidate or another, and during the election season it’s been very clear which party they are supporting. The fact that they have only, this week, officially endorsed a candidate doesn’t mean they were neutral before. They should have just come out and endorsed Obama, and left out the claims of neutrality. ---
**Author:** ![mlees](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/ba8739/32.png) [@mlees](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mlees)\ **Post date:** [September 17, 2008, 9:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-now-for-blatant-hypocrisy/464033/3 "2008-09-17T21:49:59Z")
Have they endorsed any pro-choice Republican candidates? (They exist.) ---
**Author:** ![Lyanthya](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/aca169/32.png) [@Lyanthya](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lyanthya)\ **Post date:** [September 17, 2008, 10:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-now-for-blatant-hypocrisy/464033/4 "2008-09-17T22:39:04Z")
I’m not sure about the neutrality, but there are many reasons that feminists don’t support Palin; it isn’t just that she’s pro-life. She supports abstinence-only sex education, she sees marriage as a valid solution to teen pregnancy, and under her term as mayor, rape victims in her town were forced to pay for their evidence collection kits. Not to mention that she would be a huge embarrassment to women as the first female VP. ---
**Author:** ![Baldwin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/baldwin/32/7264_2.png) [@Baldwin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Baldwin)\ **Post date:** [September 17, 2008, 10:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-now-for-blatant-hypocrisy/464033/5 "2008-09-17T22:40:53Z")
It makes sense for NOW to endorse candidates that are likely to promote policies they want; I don’t know why they’d even pretend to be neutral. ---
**Author:** ![FriarTed](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/friarted/32/1052_2.png) [@FriarTed](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FriarTed)\ **Post date:** [September 17, 2008, 11:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-now-for-blatant-hypocrisy/464033/6 "2008-09-17T23:28:29Z")
Let me add to this my pet peeve about whenever “EMILY’s List” is mentioned in a newspaper article. It is always described as “an organization which supports women candidates”. No- it is an organization which supports pro-choice women candidates. ---
**Author:** ![KSO](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/f07891/32.png) [@KSO](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/KSO)\ **Post date:** [September 18, 2008, 12:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-now-for-blatant-hypocrisy/464033/7 "2008-09-18T00:34:40Z")
> [@Baldwin](#): > > It makes sense for NOW to endorse candidates that are likely to promote policies they want; I don’t know why they’d even pretend to be neutral. I think that NOW is a not-for-profit entity–that status would be endangered by getting too involved in political campaigns. ---
**Author:** ![magellan01](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@magellan01](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/magellan01)\ **Post date:** [September 18, 2008, 12:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-now-for-blatant-hypocrisy/464033/8 "2008-09-18T00:39:28Z")
> [@Lyanthya](#): > > I’m not sure about the neutrality, but there are many reasons that feminists don’t support Palin; it isn’t just that she’s pro-life. She supports abstinence-only sex education, she sees marriage as a valid solution to teen pregnancy, and under her term as mayor, rape victims in her town were forced to pay for their evidence collection kits. > > Not to mention that she would be a huge embarrassment to women as the first female VP. Why’s that? Because she doesn’t follow in goose-step? You people are unfuckingbelievable. What a bunch of cunts. ---
**Author:** ![saoirse](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/5daacb/32.png) [@saoirse](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/saoirse)\ **Post date:** [September 18, 2008, 12:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-now-for-blatant-hypocrisy/464033/9 "2008-09-18T00:40:23Z")
Considering that John McCain has actually come out _against_ equal pay for equal work, and that Sarah Palin’s response to the shitstorm that hit NOW’s favorded candidate was “work harder,” I’m not even surprised. ---
**Author:** ![Jamaika\_a\_jamaikaiake](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/7993a0/32.png) [@Jamaika\_a\_jamaikaiake](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jamaika_a_jamaikaiake)\ **Post date:** [September 18, 2008, 1:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-now-for-blatant-hypocrisy/464033/10 "2008-09-18T01:09:49Z")
> [@magellan01](#): > > > [@](#): > > > > Not to mention that she would be a huge embarrassment to women as the first female VP. > > Why’s that? Because she doesn’t follow in goose-step? You people are unfuckingbelievable. What a bunch of cunts. No, it is because she comes across as an idiot in her speeches and interviews. ---
**Author:** ![Aholibah](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/e0b2c6/32.png) [@Aholibah](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Aholibah)\ **Post date:** [September 18, 2008, 1:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-now-for-blatant-hypocrisy/464033/11 "2008-09-18T01:15:29Z")
> [@magellan01](#): > > Why’s that? Because she doesn’t follow in goose-step? You people are unfuckingbelievable. What a bunch of cunts. How about because she is clueless about major national issues, let alone foreign policy. For some of us at least it has nothing to do with her not “following in goosestep” (by which I assume you mean “lockstep” – you might want to check the definitions on those two terms, sport). For some of us, when we do finally see a woman as president or vice-president of this nation, we’d really, really like it if she were intellectually honest, impeccably qualified, and undeniably capable. Those things are simply not true of Governor Palin, and, as a result, some of us feel she is liable to be an embarrasment and more likely to set back women’s progress than advance it. That may or may not make us cunts. ---
**Author:** ![Tim\_T-Bonham.net](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/46a35a/32.png) [@Tim\_T-Bonham.net](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tim_T-Bonham.net)\ **Post date:** [September 18, 2008, 1:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-now-for-blatant-hypocrisy/464033/12 "2008-09-18T01:15:55Z")
> [@mlees](#): > > Have they endorsed any pro-choice Republican candidates? > > (They exist.) The Minnesota Chapter of NOW has endorsed other parties – there are several Green Party candidates they have endorsed. But I can’t find any Republicans endorsed in the last 8 years – but then, around here, we hardly have any pro-choice Republican candidates. If they are pro-choice, the local Republicans simply will not endorse them. In fact, they refused to endorse for re-election a six-year State Senator, because she was (semi) pro-choice. She was re-elected anyway, and eventually caucused with the Democrats. ---
**Author:** ![Guinastasia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guinastasia/32/5751_2.png) [@Guinastasia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guinastasia)\ **Post date:** [September 18, 2008, 1:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-now-for-blatant-hypocrisy/464033/13 "2008-09-18T01:54:18Z")
> [@magellan01](#): > > Why’s that? Because she doesn’t follow in goose-step? You people are unfuckingbelievable. What a bunch of cunts. Wait-not wanting to pay for my own rape kit makes me a cunt? Supporting educating teenagers in safe sex and reproduction makes me a cunt? Not thinking TEENAGERS are ready to get married makes me a cunt? Then call me Ms. Cunt, Esq. ---
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [September 18, 2008, 2:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-now-for-blatant-hypocrisy/464033/14 "2008-09-18T02:10:43Z")
> [@Guinastasia](#): > > …Then call me Ms. Cunt, Esq. You are a lawyer as well as a cunt? Oh, dear. ---
**Author:** ![fluiddruid](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/c2a13f/32.png) [@fluiddruid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/fluiddruid)\ **Post date:** [September 18, 2008, 2:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-now-for-blatant-hypocrisy/464033/15 "2008-09-18T02:47:49Z")
> [@magellan01](#): > > Why’s that? Because she doesn’t follow in goose-step? You people are unfuckingbelievable. What a bunch of cunts. So, in your world, voting for someone based on the issues rather than if they have a hoo-hoo or ha-ha makes you a cunt? ---
**Author:** ![UnwrittenNocturne](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/6de8d8/32.png) [@UnwrittenNocturne](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/UnwrittenNocturne)\ **Post date:** [September 18, 2008, 2:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-now-for-blatant-hypocrisy/464033/16 "2008-09-18T02:54:10Z")
> [@magellan01](#): > > Why’s that? Because she doesn’t follow in goose-step? You people are unfuckingbelievable. What a bunch of cunts. Did you have to practice or is your incredible stupidity innate? Let’s get this fucking straight shall we. Palin is a right wing fuckwit. Equal right and opportunities would disappear with her anywhere near the helm of state. I realise that doesn’t mean much of anything to you. Because you’re a heartless fucking git. But to a lot of people it really does matter that women, gays, gay women even (!) get the same protection from your lot that anyone else is entitled to. In closing. Go back to your stomp-on-the-poor/women/whatever masturbatory fantasies you worthless shit ---
**Author:** ![anya\_marie](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ebca7d/32.png) [@anya\_marie](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/anya_marie)\ **Post date:** [September 18, 2008, 3:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-now-for-blatant-hypocrisy/464033/17 "2008-09-18T03:49:38Z")
> [@fluiddruid](#): > > So, in your world, voting for someone based on the issues rather than if they have a hoo-hoo or ha-ha makes you a cunt? Then I am proud to be a cunt. :dubious: ---
**Author:** ![Lyanthya](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/aca169/32.png) [@Lyanthya](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lyanthya)\ **Post date:** [September 18, 2008, 4:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-now-for-blatant-hypocrisy/464033/18 "2008-09-18T04:14:38Z")
> [@magellan01](#): > > Why’s that? Because she doesn’t follow in goose-step? You people are unfuckingbelievable. What a bunch of cunts. No, because she’s completely unqualified, and also deranged. There’s only one of me here. To what “people” and “cunts” are you referring? ---
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [September 18, 2008, 4:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-now-for-blatant-hypocrisy/464033/19 "2008-09-18T04:15:03Z")
Given that definition, I’d have to cop to it as well. Can’t say I’d be thrilled about it… ---
**Author:** ![Lyanthya](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/aca169/32.png) [@Lyanthya](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lyanthya)\ **Post date:** [September 18, 2008, 4:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-now-for-blatant-hypocrisy/464033/20 "2008-09-18T04:16:50Z")
> [@Aholibah](#): > > How about because she is clueless about major national issues, let alone foreign policy. For some of us at least it has nothing to do with her not “following in goosestep” (by which I assume you mean “lockstep” – you might want to check the definitions on those two terms, sport). For some of us, when we do finally see a woman as president or vice-president of this nation, we’d really, really like it if she were intellectually honest, impeccably qualified, and undeniably capable. Those things are simply not true of Governor Palin, and, as a result, some of us feel she is liable to be an embarrasment and more likely to set back women’s progress than advance it. That may or may not make us cunts. Precisely. [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-now-for-blatant-hypocrisy/464033.md?page=2)