# I Pit Obama and his Kool Aid Drinking Puppets **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [June 22, 2008, 10:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-obama-and-his-kool-aid-drinking-puppets/453845 "2008-06-22T22:56:06Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 6
**Author:** ![storyteller0910](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ecae2f/32.png) [@storyteller0910](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/storyteller0910)\ **Post date:** [June 23, 2008, 4:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-obama-and-his-kool-aid-drinking-puppets/453845/101 "2008-06-23T04:36:13Z")
[QUOTE=Carol Stream] You don’t think the current welfare system IS instituionalized racism? [/QUOTE] I’ll bite. No, I don’t. Do I get a prize now? ---
**Author:** ![Fear\_Itself](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fear_itself/32/19637_2.png) [@Fear\_Itself](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fear_Itself)\ **Post date:** [June 23, 2008, 4:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-obama-and-his-kool-aid-drinking-puppets/453845/102 "2008-06-23T04:36:44Z")
[QUOTE=Carol Stream] How is redisribution of wealth an American philosphy? [/QUOTE] The rich and powerful have been drinking our milkshake for years. Now we drink their milkshake! It is the American way. ---
**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\ **Post date:** [June 23, 2008, 4:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-obama-and-his-kool-aid-drinking-puppets/453845/103 "2008-06-23T04:52:55Z")
[QUOTE=storyteller0910] I’ll bite. No, I don’t. Do I get a prize now? [/QUOTE] Do food stamps count? ---
**Author:** ![Der\_Trihs](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/der_trihs/32/233_2.png) [@Der\_Trihs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Der_Trihs)\ **Post date:** [June 23, 2008, 5:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-obama-and-his-kool-aid-drinking-puppets/453845/104 "2008-06-23T05:05:41Z")
[QUOTE=Carol Stream] Like I said, you’re a douchebag. How is redisribution of wealth an American philosphy? [/QUOTE] Assuming that was true ( it’s not, as pointed out by others ), so what ? America is not the source of all good ideas. [QUOTE=Carol Stream] History defines the American way, and your “progressive” way (nice code word) does not fit it. Which of the Founders would have supported taking away someone’s pie to give it to others? [/QUOTE] Most of them, especially if the “others” was themselves. They were greedy, slave owning, genocidal killers, and unworthy of anything but loathing. America is a nation founded by evil men, upon evil acts, and it’s foolish to use dead evil men as a moral guide. ---
**Author:** ![aldiboronti](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/9fc348/32.png) [@aldiboronti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/aldiboronti)\ **Post date:** [June 23, 2008, 5:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-obama-and-his-kool-aid-drinking-puppets/453845/105 "2008-06-23T05:11:38Z")
[QUOTE=ArchiveGuy] Wow, an OP with no cites, no real quotes, no hard fiscal statistics or analysis, and lots and lots of invective and repetitive talking points. [/QUOTE] Sheesh, you’d think we were in The Pit rather than Great Debates. ---
**Author:** ![jayjay](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jayjay/32/6765_2.png) [@jayjay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jayjay)\ **Post date:** [June 23, 2008, 11:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-obama-and-his-kool-aid-drinking-puppets/453845/106 "2008-06-23T11:14:35Z")
[QUOTE=Carol Stream] You don’t think the current welfare system IS instituionalized racism? [/QUOTE] You are aware that the vast majority of people on welfare are white, right? ---
**Author:** ![Jolly\_Roger](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/91b2a8/32.png) [@Jolly\_Roger](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jolly_Roger)\ **Post date:** [June 23, 2008, 11:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-obama-and-his-kool-aid-drinking-puppets/453845/107 "2008-06-23T11:47:15Z")
[QUOTE=Clothahump] Why does every salivate over Obama with crap like this, instead of being scared shitless by it? [/QUOTE] Because there are too many fat bastards eating too much pie? ---
**Author:** ![Biffy\_the\_Elephant\_Shrew](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/e47c2d/32.png) [@Biffy\_the\_Elephant\_Shrew](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Biffy_the_Elephant_Shrew)\ **Post date:** [June 23, 2008, 12:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-obama-and-his-kool-aid-drinking-puppets/453845/108 "2008-06-23T12:30:15Z")
[QUOTE=Carol Stream] It’s already been quoted in this thread. “The truth is, in order to get things like universal health care and a revamped education system, then someone is going to have to give up a piece of their pie so that someone else can have more.” [/QUOTE] For the record, **Baldwin** asked for a quote from _Senator_ Obama. That quote is from his wife, who is not the candidate. **Clothahump** sneakily quoted it without attribution. ---
**Author:** ![Ludovic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/7ab992/32.png) [@Ludovic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ludovic)\ **Post date:** [June 23, 2008, 12:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-obama-and-his-kool-aid-drinking-puppets/453845/109 "2008-06-23T12:36:09Z")
[QUOTE=Fear Itself] The rich and powerful have been drinking our milkshake for years. Now we drink their milkshake! It is the American way. [/QUOTE] In Russia, milkshake drinks YOU! ---
**Author:** ![FoieGrasIsEvil](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/foiegrasisevil/32/16638_2.png) [@FoieGrasIsEvil](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FoieGrasIsEvil)\ **Post date:** [June 23, 2008, 1:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-obama-and-his-kool-aid-drinking-puppets/453845/110 "2008-06-23T13:01:38Z")
[QUOTE=Der Trihs] **America is a nation founded by evil men, upon evil acts, and it’s foolish to use dead evil men as a moral guide**. [/QUOTE] America’s “evils” upon it’s inception were a reflection of the society of the 18th century, sir. Slavery was not widely considered “evil” in those times as it was in later years up until today. The Indians deserved better, but what are you going to do? They were viewed as “savages” by many, because people were afraid of them because they were different. I fail to see this abject evil that you describe in our Founding Fathers. It’s a more relevant accusation of the current incarnation of our government than our first form. ---
**Author:** ![Merijeek](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f05b48/32.png) [@Merijeek](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Merijeek)\ **Post date:** [June 23, 2008, 1:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-obama-and-his-kool-aid-drinking-puppets/453845/111 "2008-06-23T13:15:30Z")
[QUOTE=Carol Stream] It’s already been quoted in this thread. “The truth is, in order to get things like universal health care and a revamped education system, then someone is going to have to give up a piece of their pie so that someone else can have more.” [/QUOTE] What? Acknowledge that any particular program will have to be PAID FOR? And accept the fact that money that goes into Column A will have to come out of Column B? Madness! UNAMERICAN! Run up the credit card debts! Damn fiscal rationality, FULL SPEND AHEAD! -Joe ---
**Author:** ![Der\_Trihs](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/der_trihs/32/233_2.png) [@Der\_Trihs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Der_Trihs)\ **Post date:** [June 23, 2008, 1:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-obama-and-his-kool-aid-drinking-puppets/453845/112 "2008-06-23T13:20:57Z")
[QUOTE=FoieGrasIsEvil] America’s “evils” upon it’s inception were a reflection of the society of the 18th century, sir. Slavery was not widely considered “evil” in those times as it was in later years up until today. [/quote] That’s because society in general at that period was evil. [QUOTE=FoieGrasIsEvil] The Indians deserved better, but what are you going to do? [/quote] Condemn the people who slaughtered them, and refuse to go along with this veneration of them. [QUOTE=FoieGrasIsEvil] I fail to see this abject evil that you describe in our Founding Fathers. [/QUOTE] Slavery and genocide are evil. A society or individuals that practices either is evil; that outweighs anything else about them. ---
**Author:** ![Merijeek](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f05b48/32.png) [@Merijeek](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Merijeek)\ **Post date:** [June 23, 2008, 1:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-obama-and-his-kool-aid-drinking-puppets/453845/113 "2008-06-23T13:35:23Z")
[QUOTE=Ludovic] In Russia, milkshake drinks YOU! [/QUOTE] In SOVIET Russia, milkshake drinks you. Gawd, if you gonna quote the great Yakov, at least do it right. See, this here librulification of America will stop at nothing to wreck everything. Misquotes of Yakov? What’s next? Raping children with chainsaws? -Joe ---
**Author:** ![stolichnaya](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bcef8e/32.png) [@stolichnaya](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/stolichnaya)\ **Post date:** [June 23, 2008, 1:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-obama-and-his-kool-aid-drinking-puppets/453845/114 "2008-06-23T13:56:56Z")
I am afraid that this thread has broken my logic parts… so logically, it has made me smorter. I now smortest! ---
**Author:** ![EddyTeddyFreddy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eddyteddyfreddy/32/18796_2.png) [@EddyTeddyFreddy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EddyTeddyFreddy)\ **Post date:** [June 23, 2008, 2:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-obama-and-his-kool-aid-drinking-puppets/453845/115 "2008-06-23T14:12:56Z")
[QUOTE=jayjay] You are aware that the vast majority of people on welfare are white, right? [/QUOTE] Nonsense, sir. Piffle and twaddle! It says right here on this piece of paper that I hold in my hand that all welfare queens are black, all of them! And I can prove it! Lemme ask you this – you ever seen a _white_ welfare queen behind the wheel of a Cadillac? Huh? Huh? Didn’t think so. So there, Mr. Smartypants Liberal! I hope you choke on your latte. :mad: ---
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [June 23, 2008, 2:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-obama-and-his-kool-aid-drinking-puppets/453845/116 "2008-06-23T14:51:42Z")
[QUOTE=Merijeek] … What’s next? Raping children with chainsaws? [/QUOTE] I steadfastly oppose raping chldren with chainsaws. Frankly, I see no good reason for children to have chainsaws in the first place. ---
**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\ **Post date:** [June 23, 2008, 3:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-obama-and-his-kool-aid-drinking-puppets/453845/117 "2008-06-23T15:27:17Z")
[QUOTE=elucidator] I steadfastly oppose raping chldren with chainsaws. Frankly, I see no good reason for children to have chainsaws in the first place. [/QUOTE] 😕 How else can they play with puppies?! ---
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [June 23, 2008, 3:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-obama-and-his-kool-aid-drinking-puppets/453845/118 "2008-06-23T15:36:40Z")
If I get to Hell first, I’ll save you a spot. ---
**Author:** ![eleanorigby](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/ee7513/32.png) [@eleanorigby](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eleanorigby)\ **Post date:** [June 23, 2008, 3:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-obama-and-his-kool-aid-drinking-puppets/453845/119 "2008-06-23T15:42:56Z")
\ Maybe they use the chainsaws to make puppy meat to feed their families so they don’t need the pie? Them puppies make good eatin’! [aside] I sincerely hope that there is a mainstream America located between the bile that is **Der Tris** and the utter idiocy that is **Carol Stream**. [/aside] I find it amusing that under these so revered Founding Fathers, **Carol Stream** wouldn’t have been able to vote (or would she/he/it have been landed white male gentry? The world awaits the news with breathless anticipation!) OR without the social movements so vilified by him/her/it, if he is a she, she wouldn’t have gotten the right to vote (if he’s a she–dammit, gender confusion IS hard!). History is as hard as math sometimes. ---
**Author:** ![Great\_Dave](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/46a35a/32.png) [@Great\_Dave](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Great_Dave)\ **Post date:** [June 23, 2008, 3:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-obama-and-his-kool-aid-drinking-puppets/453845/120 "2008-06-23T15:42:57Z")
I’m beginning to think the best reason to vote Obama is to make Carol’s head asplode. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-obama-and-his-kool-aid-drinking-puppets/453845.md?page=5) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-obama-and-his-kool-aid-drinking-puppets/453845.md?page=7)