# I Pit Obama and his Kool Aid Drinking Puppets **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [June 22, 2008, 10:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-obama-and-his-kool-aid-drinking-puppets/453845 "2008-06-22T22:56:06Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 7
**Author:** ![Alessan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alessan/32/465_2.png) [@Alessan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Alessan)\ **Post date:** [June 23, 2008, 3:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-obama-and-his-kool-aid-drinking-puppets/453845/121 "2008-06-23T15:48:53Z")
[QUOTE=Carol Stream] Which of the Founders would have supported taking away someone’s pie to give it to others? [/QUOTE] Who cares? They’re dead. They don’t get a vote. Well, except in Chicago. ---
**Author:** ![Merijeek](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f05b48/32.png) [@Merijeek](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Merijeek)\ **Post date:** [June 23, 2008, 3:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-obama-and-his-kool-aid-drinking-puppets/453845/122 "2008-06-23T15:52:06Z")
[QUOTE=eleanorigby] [aside] I sincerely hope that there is a mainstream America located between the bile that is **Der Tris** and the utter idiocy that is **Carol Stream**. [/aside] [/QUOTE] If there wasn’t a middle, The Darwin Awards would take up 99% of the Internet and about 99.999% of humanity. -Joe ---
**Author:** ![VinylTurnip](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/b2d939/32.png) [@VinylTurnip](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/VinylTurnip)\ **Post date:** [June 23, 2008, 3:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-obama-and-his-kool-aid-drinking-puppets/453845/123 "2008-06-23T15:53:58Z")
[QUOTE=Der Trihs] America is a nation founded by evil men, upon evil acts, and it’s foolish to use dead evil men as a moral guide. [/QUOTE] Sir Simon Milligan, ladies and gentlemen. Let’s give him a big hand! ---
**Author:** ![Merijeek](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f05b48/32.png) [@Merijeek](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Merijeek)\ **Post date:** [June 23, 2008, 3:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-obama-and-his-kool-aid-drinking-puppets/453845/124 "2008-06-23T15:56:38Z")
[QUOTE=Vinyl Turnip] Sir Simon Milligan, ladies and gentlemen. Let’s give him a big hand! [/QUOTE] A hand, master? -Joe ---
**Author:** ![Captain\_Amazing](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/6de8d8/32.png) [@Captain\_Amazing](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Captain_Amazing)\ **Post date:** [June 23, 2008, 4:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-obama-and-his-kool-aid-drinking-puppets/453845/125 "2008-06-23T16:24:09Z")
[QUOTE=Der Trihs] Most of them, especially if the “others” was themselves. They were greedy, slave owning, genocidal killers, and unworthy of anything but loathing. America is a nation founded by evil men, upon evil acts, and it’s foolish to use dead evil men as a moral guide. [/QUOTE] All of them? Even Matthew Thornton and Francis Hopkinson? What do you have against Thornton and Hopkinson? ---
**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\ **Post date:** [June 23, 2008, 4:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-obama-and-his-kool-aid-drinking-puppets/453845/126 "2008-06-23T16:40:53Z")
[QUOTE=Q.E.D.] Sorry, two-term limit. [/QUOTE] First time I ever bust out laughing in the office. Well done, sir. ---
**Author:** ![eleanorigby](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/ee7513/32.png) [@eleanorigby](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eleanorigby)\ **Post date:** [June 23, 2008, 4:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-obama-and-his-kool-aid-drinking-puppets/453845/127 "2008-06-23T16:47:30Z")
[QUOTE=Merijeek] If there wasn’t a middle, The Darwin Awards would take up 99% of the Internet and about 99.999% of humanity. -Joe [/QUOTE] I know, I know. It just seems sometimes that the only ones without a voice ARE those middle of the road people. \ (and who’s to say the Darwin Awards don’t? I think you’re underestimating…) 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![tds1273](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/df705f/32.png) [@tds1273](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tds1273)\ **Post date:** [June 23, 2008, 4:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-obama-and-his-kool-aid-drinking-puppets/453845/128 "2008-06-23T16:57:30Z")
[QUOTE=Great Dave] Actually, as we all know, Kool-Aid is what blacks drink… [/QUOTE] …or [Grape Drink](http://www.glumbert.com/media/grapedrink) This thread has been brought to you by **Brawndo!** - it has the Electrolytes posters, puppets, and plants need. ---
**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\ **Post date:** [June 23, 2008, 7:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-obama-and-his-kool-aid-drinking-puppets/453845/129 "2008-06-23T19:47:27Z")
[QUOTE=Rael] “OMG! Someone has more of something than me! WAH!!! WAH!!!” \ “This is not fair!!!” [/QUOTE] Actually, the late lamented [George Carlin](http://www.thenation.com/blogs/thebeat/331953) had a better take on the attitude you seem to be Pitting: > [@](#): > > “Let’s suppose we all just materialized on Earth and there was a bunch of potatoes on the ground, okay? There’s just six of us. Only six humans. We come into a clearing and there’s potatoes on the ground. Now, my instinct would be, let’s everybody get some potatoes. “Everybody got a potato? Joey didn’t get a potato! He’s small, he can’t hold as many potatoes. Give Joey some of your potatoes.” “No, these are my potatoes!” That’s the Republicans. “I collected more of them, I got a bigger pile of potatoes, they’re mine. If you want some of them, you’re going to have to give me something.” “But look at Joey, he’s only got a couple, they won’t last two days.” That’s the fuckin’ difference! And I’m more inclined to want to share and even out,” he explained in an interview several years ago with The Onion. > > “I understand the marketplace, but government is supposed to be here to redress the inequities of the marketplace,” Carlin continued. “That’s one of its functions. Not just to protect the nation, secure our security and all that shit. And not just to take care of great problems that are trans-state problems, that are national, but also to make sure that the inequalities of the marketplace are redressed by the acts of government. That’s what welfare was about. There are people who really just don’t have the tools, for whatever reason. Yes, there are lazy people. Yes, there are slackers. Yes, there’s all of that. But there are also people who can’t cut it, for any given reason, whether it’s racism, or an educational opportunity, or poverty, or a fuckin’ horrible home life, or a history of a horrible family life going back three generations, or whatever it is. They’re crippled and they can’t make it, and they deserve to rest at the commonweal. That’s where my fuckin’ passion lies.” It ain’t socialism, just plain common sense. ---
**Author:** ![iamthewalrus\_3](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/258eb7/32.png) [@iamthewalrus\_3](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iamthewalrus_3)\ **Post date:** [June 23, 2008, 10:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-obama-and-his-kool-aid-drinking-puppets/453845/130 "2008-06-23T22:14:42Z")
[QUOTE=ivylass] Oh, I forgot…I’m in Florida, so ya’ll will have to wait six weeks to see if my vote counts or not. 😃 [/QUOTE] Hey, at least you get some suspense. I live in California, so it doesn’t really matter who I vote for. +55 Obama. ---
**Author:** ![photopat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/e95f7d/32.png) [@photopat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/photopat)\ **Post date:** [June 23, 2008, 10:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-obama-and-his-kool-aid-drinking-puppets/453845/131 "2008-06-23T22:45:36Z")
[QUOTE=Rael] The level of groupthink present among the Obamamessiah’s disciples is astrounding. Is Obama truly stupid enough to believe the asinine things spewing out of his mouth on a daily basis? Do they not teach economics at Harvard? I don’t think he is that stupid. I think he simply knows the right things to say to attract the type of Kool Aid drinking drones That support him. “OMG! Someone has more of something than me! WAH!!! WAH!!!” \ “This is not fair!!!” Obama knows the true extend of the utter numbskullery present in his puppets. He knows his followers aren’t even smart enough to set their own thermostats! Well Mr Obama, unlike the mental midgets you have managed to assimilate with your “world owes me something” socialist rhetoric, I know how to adjust my own dial, and I don’t give a shit what the rest of the world, or YOU, think about it! [/QUOTE] So aside from that, what do you think? He’s pretty cool, huh? You gonna vote for him too? ---
**Author:** ![Frostillicus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/e9bcb4/32.png) [@Frostillicus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Frostillicus)\ **Post date:** [June 23, 2008, 10:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-obama-and-his-kool-aid-drinking-puppets/453845/132 "2008-06-23T22:54:45Z")
[QUOTE=Rael] “OMG! Someone has more of something than me! WAH!!! WAH!!!” \ “This is not fair!!!” [/QUOTE] Wow! You completely nailed Obama’s economic message. :rolleyes: ---
**Author:** ![Rael](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/b19c9b/32.png) [@Rael](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rael)\ **Post date:** [June 23, 2008, 11:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-obama-and-his-kool-aid-drinking-puppets/453845/133 "2008-06-23T23:32:04Z")
[QUOTE=Frostillicus] Wow! You completely nailed Obama’s economic message. :rolleyes: [/QUOTE] Of course I did. That is EXACTLY what his economic message is. For all the bleating I hear from the sheeple in here about cites and specifics, I have yet to see a single rational argument for the Obamamessiah’s policies. Most of it is typical liberal whining, and the few people willing to take a swing at it so far are giving emotional reasons, not logical ones. I expected no less from a group of liberal pawns. Nevertheless in an attempt to placate the bleating sounds, I will throw out a few quick points. Obama thinks the government can take care of our health care. The same government that can’t even get the mail delivered on time, educate our children or balance a budget! Been to the DMV lately? Thats what your doctors office is going to look like. Wiki: Obama is a sponsor of the Global Poverty Act, which “requires the President to develop and implement a comprehensive policy to cut extreme global poverty in half by 2015 through aid, trade, debt relief, and coordination with the international community, businesses and NGOs.”[147] The legislation, if approved, dedicates 0.7 percent of the U.S. gross national product to foreign aid, which over 13 years he said would amount to $845 billion over and above what the U.S. already spends.[148 Fuck that! AMERICAN poverty is not my problem, much less global poverty. What gives him the right to steal this money from us? If you think reducing poverty is a noble cause, give as much money as you want. Do what you want with your own pie. Stay the fuck away from mine please. Obama stated he will stop investing in missile defense. WTF is wrong with missile DEFENSE for God’s sake??? Perhaps his plan is to just hold hands and sing Kumbaya to ward off the missles. Of course he can always just say “Hope” and his army of marionettes will come dancing to his service. ---
**Author:** ![Clothahump](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/51bf81/32.png) [@Clothahump](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Clothahump)\ **Post date:** [June 23, 2008, 11:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-obama-and-his-kool-aid-drinking-puppets/453845/134 "2008-06-23T23:36:28Z")
[QUOTE=BlackKnight] In case you’re not joking … holy everyloving fuck you’re retarded. Seriously mentally handicapped. I hope you don’t have children or operate heavy machinery. “Oh noes! Someone said government programs have to be paid for, and I’m conditioned to bark at the phrase ‘government programs’! Bark bark bark!” Not that it’ll probably help, but I’ll type this slowly: A statement that large government programs will require somebody to pay for them is what adults call “a statement of fact”. Adults do not fear statements of fact. [/QUOTE] No, but intelligent adults fear assholes running for public office who claim that we need government programs to redistribute wealth. And thank you for validating what I said. ---
**Author:** ![Clothahump](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/51bf81/32.png) [@Clothahump](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Clothahump)\ **Post date:** [June 23, 2008, 11:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-obama-and-his-kool-aid-drinking-puppets/453845/135 "2008-06-23T23:40:43Z")
[QUOTE=BrainGlutton] Actually, the late lamented [George Carlin](http://www.thenation.com/blogs/thebeat/331953) had a better take on the attitude you seem to be Pitting: …snip… It ain’t socialism, just plain common sense. [/QUOTE] Carlin missed the point, too. If it’s just plain common sense, we don’t need the government telling us to do it. ---
**Author:** ![Rael](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/b19c9b/32.png) [@Rael](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rael)\ **Post date:** [June 23, 2008, 11:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-obama-and-his-kool-aid-drinking-puppets/453845/136 "2008-06-23T23:47:03Z")
[QUOTE=Clothahump] Carlin missed the point, too. If it’s just plain common sense, we don’t need the government telling us to do it. [/QUOTE] I love George Carlin. I disagreed with alot he said, but I still laughed at it. George, I am going to miss you. ---
**Author:** ![Der\_Trihs](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/der_trihs/32/233_2.png) [@Der\_Trihs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Der_Trihs)\ **Post date:** [June 23, 2008, 11:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-obama-and-his-kool-aid-drinking-puppets/453845/137 "2008-06-23T23:48:01Z")
[QUOTE=Rael] Obama thinks the government can take care of our health care. The same government that can’t even get the mail delivered on time, educate our children or balance a budget! Been to the DMV lately? Thats what your doctors office is going to look like. [/quote] Funny, how the government run health care in other countries is better - save for some high end stuff - than what we free market worshipping Americans get. [QUOTE=Rael] Fuck that! AMERICAN poverty is not my problem, much less global poverty. What gives him the right to steal this money from us? [/quote] The fact that as a fellow human being, you have moral obligations to other human beings. The fact that much of that poverty is at least partially our fault. I’m not surprised you don’t care; “conservative” and “sociopath” are near synonyms. [QUOTE=Rael] If you think reducing poverty is a noble cause, give as much money as you want. Do what you want with your own pie. Stay the fuck away from mine please. [/quote] If concern for others is so bad, why should I care about your feelings ? If concern for others is of value, you owe the money for moral reasons; if it’s not, why should I or anyone care if Obama takes your money or why ? [QUOTE=Rael] Obama stated he will stop investing in missile defense. WTF is wrong with missile DEFENSE for God’s sake??? [/QUOTE] Because it doesn’t work; it’s a scam that conservative “sheeple” like you buy into. ---
**Author:** ![Der\_Trihs](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/der_trihs/32/233_2.png) [@Der\_Trihs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Der_Trihs)\ **Post date:** [June 23, 2008, 11:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-obama-and-his-kool-aid-drinking-puppets/453845/138 "2008-06-23T23:50:13Z")
[QUOTE=Clothahump] Carlin missed the point, too. If it’s just plain common sense, we don’t need the government telling us to do it. [/QUOTE] Wrong. People do stupid, shortsighted things all the time. ---
**Author:** ![Rael](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/b19c9b/32.png) [@Rael](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rael)\ **Post date:** [June 23, 2008, 11:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-obama-and-his-kool-aid-drinking-puppets/453845/139 "2008-06-23T23:54:17Z")
[QUOTE=Der Trihs] Wrong. People do stupid, shortsighted things all the time. [/QUOTE] True enough, but is it right for the government to infringe on someone’s rights to protect other people from their own stupidity? ---
**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\ **Post date:** [June 23, 2008, 11:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-obama-and-his-kool-aid-drinking-puppets/453845/140 "2008-06-23T23:55:17Z")
[QUOTE=Rael] Of course I did. That is EXACTLY what his economic message is. For all the bleating I hear from the sheeple in here about cites and specifics, I have yet to see a single rational argument for the Obamamessiah’s policies. [/QUOTE] See, that’s where “specifics” come in. Any serious presidential candidate has a **lot** of policies. Which of [these,](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Political_positions_of_Barack_Obama) in particular, do you find objectionable, and why, and how is it “socialist”? You really don’t seem to understand his positions at all. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-obama-and-his-kool-aid-drinking-puppets/453845.md?page=6) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-obama-and-his-kool-aid-drinking-puppets/453845.md?page=8)