# I Pit oldoaktree **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [June 18, 2021, 11:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-oldoaktree/944587 "2021-06-18T23:28:30Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Max\_S](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/46a35a/32.png) [@Max\_S](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Max_S)\ **Post date:** [June 18, 2021, 11:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-oldoaktree/944587/1 "2021-06-18T23:28:30Z")
Continuing the discussion from [I pit Myself, Oldoaktree](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-myself-oldoaktree/944575/3): > [@On another topic](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/944575/3): > > Constructive criticism would be preferred. > [@On another topic](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/944575/28): > > Well, in that case, you’re in the wrong forum. Try MPSIMS for that. > > Thread closed. It’s not that easy to escape a pitting. 1. You opened a P&E topic by addressing your "poor delusional liberal friends", i.e. the people who had the misfortune of opening your topic. 2. You claimed not to be interested in debating any particular case, 3. You claim that nobody is addressing something you brought up, 4. You repeatedly claim that the topic is about whether it is wrong for the courts to have enough power to carry out judicial activism, 5. You are a sophist, and a lazy one. Your posts _usually_ lack capitalization and punctuation. They are often one line posts, and often one line questions. You don't make cites. But when you want to you can post perfectly fine. Then again, when you want to post well, you get snarky. For someone who has been lurking for _years_, you really don’t get it, do you? Or maybe you aren’t here to make friends. Do you get a kick out of being piled on? ~Max ---
**Author:** ![oldoaktree](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/ccd318/32.png) [@oldoaktree](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/oldoaktree)\ **Post date:** [June 18, 2021, 11:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-oldoaktree/944587/2 "2021-06-18T23:32:01Z")
Shouldn’t this thread be closed down? The other one opened up. ---
**Author:** ![k9bfriender](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/k9bfriender/32/3283_2.png) [@k9bfriender](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/k9bfriender)\ **Post date:** [June 18, 2021, 11:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-oldoaktree/944587/3 "2021-06-18T23:33:02Z")
I approve this pitting, as it’s never fun when someone measures themselves for their own cross. ---
**Author:** ![Max\_S](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/46a35a/32.png) [@Max\_S](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Max_S)\ **Post date:** [June 18, 2021, 11:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-oldoaktree/944587/4 "2021-06-18T23:34:06Z")
> [@oldoaktree](#): > > The other one opened up. Cite? oh wait. You don’t make cites. ~Max ---
**Author:** ![oldoaktree](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/ccd318/32.png) [@oldoaktree](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/oldoaktree)\ **Post date:** [June 18, 2021, 11:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-oldoaktree/944587/5 "2021-06-18T23:34:15Z")
Not gonna participate in this thread. ---
**Author:** ![Max\_S](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/46a35a/32.png) [@Max\_S](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Max_S)\ **Post date:** [June 18, 2021, 11:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-oldoaktree/944587/6 "2021-06-18T23:36:53Z")
That’s a shame, because my entire OP is constructive criticism… except the last two sentences. ~Max ---
**Author:** ![BlankSlate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/blankslate/32/80_2.png) [@BlankSlate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BlankSlate)\ **Post date:** [June 18, 2021, 11:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-oldoaktree/944587/7 "2021-06-18T23:38:56Z")
This returning trock couldn’t be more obvious. Up your game Oaky, and then go play in traffic. ---
**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\ **Post date:** [June 18, 2021, 11:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-oldoaktree/944587/8 "2021-06-18T23:40:38Z")
> [@oldoaktree](#): > > Shouldn’t this thread be closed down? The other one opened up Liar. ---
**Author:** ![Pleonast](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pleonast/32/1183_2.png) [@Pleonast](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Pleonast)\ **Post date:** [June 18, 2021, 11:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-oldoaktree/944587/9 "2021-06-18T23:49:09Z")
Thanks for doing the Lord’s work here, @Max_S. Nothing else to do except hit ignore, walk away, and let the mods clean up any remaining debris. Who has the sawdust pail and the shovel? ---
**Author:** ![crowmanyclouds](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/crowmanyclouds/32/19884_2.png) [@crowmanyclouds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/crowmanyclouds)\ **Post date:** [June 18, 2021, 11:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-oldoaktree/944587/10 "2021-06-18T23:58:53Z")
@oldoaktree if you don’t want to be seen as a sock/troll maybe you shouldn’t act exactly like one, just saying… ---
**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\ **Post date:** [June 19, 2021, 1:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-oldoaktree/944587/11 "2021-06-19T01:34:11Z")
I get the decided impression it’s not an act. ---
**Author:** ![TokyoBayer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tokyobayer/32/13989_2.png) [@TokyoBayer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TokyoBayer)\ **Post date:** [June 19, 2021, 1:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-oldoaktree/944587/12 "2021-06-19T01:44:58Z")
> [@crowmanyclouds](#): > > if you don’t want to be seen as a sock/troll maybe you shouldn’t act exactly like one, just saying… I haven’t seen anything that would indicate otherwise. ---
**Author:** ![TokyoBayer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tokyobayer/32/13989_2.png) [@TokyoBayer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TokyoBayer)\ **Post date:** [June 19, 2021, 2:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-oldoaktree/944587/13 "2021-06-19T02:11:17Z")
Someone better than me can tell if it’s a sock and a troll or just a troll, but it’s already a boring troll. ---
**Author:** ![Sunny\_Daze](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sunny_daze/32/438_2.png) [@Sunny\_Daze](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sunny_Daze)\ **Post date:** [June 19, 2021, 2:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-oldoaktree/944587/14 "2021-06-19T02:22:39Z")
Because it’s not the one you started? ---
**Author:** ![Kron](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kron/32/12444_2.png) [@Kron](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kron)\ **Post date:** [June 19, 2021, 3:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-oldoaktree/944587/15 "2021-06-19T03:08:26Z")
You guys didn’t even mention his thread in Thread Games! His obvious goal in asking “If the US was taken over by China, would you fight back?” was to prove that conservatives are macho he-man types, while liberals are snivelling cowards (and pro-Communist to boot!)… To his credit, about halfway through the thread he flat admitted that was his goal in asking, which surprised the hell out of me. I think he wants to be persecuted by all of us liberal meanies for his conservative viewpoint… and so far his martyrdom has been denied. ---
**Author:** ![asahi](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/asahi/32/8693_2.png) [@asahi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/asahi)\ **Post date:** [June 19, 2021, 3:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-oldoaktree/944587/16 "2021-06-19T03:15:13Z")
This guy is screaming ‘sock!’ ---
**Author:** ![DocCathode](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/doccathode/32/18773_2.png) [@DocCathode](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DocCathode)\ **Post date:** [June 19, 2021, 3:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-oldoaktree/944587/17 "2021-06-19T03:16:35Z")
> [@Kron](#): > > To his credit, about halfway through the thread he flat admitted that was his goal in asking I believe you. But, could you please provide a link? I don’t feel like wading through even half that thread ---
**Author:** ![kenobi\_65](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kenobi_65/32/13178_2.png) [@kenobi\_65](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kenobi_65)\ **Post date:** [June 19, 2021, 3:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-oldoaktree/944587/18 "2021-06-19T03:25:52Z")
> [@DocCathode](#): > > But, could you please provide a link? I don’t feel like wading through even half that thread Here you go: > [@China Conquers US. Do you fight back?](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/china-conquers-us-do-you-fight-back/944493/69): > > It is bedtime for this oldoaktree. I kinda expected the small minority of conservative Dopers to be like hell yeah id fight. Most liberal dopers to be like well we don’t believe in violence and make excuses for the CCP Some liberals to be prone to action. My impression is that liberals just ignored the premise. and the concept of armed rebellion against an invading force didnt register with them. See ya tomorrow ---
**Author:** ![DocCathode](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/doccathode/32/18773_2.png) [@DocCathode](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DocCathode)\ **Post date:** [June 19, 2021, 3:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-oldoaktree/944587/19 "2021-06-19T03:28:07Z")
Thanks! ---
**Author:** ![Just\_Asking\_Questions](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ba9def/32.png) [@Just\_Asking\_Questions](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Just_Asking_Questions)\ **Post date:** [June 19, 2021, 3:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-oldoaktree/944587/20 "2021-06-19T03:49:40Z")
> [@Kron](#): > > His obvious goal in asking “If the US was taken over by China, would you fight back?” was to prove that conservatives are macho he-man types, while liberals are snivelling cowards (and pro-Communist to boot!)… I considered that it could also be to point out that gun happy conservatives are so stupid they’d think these self-styled patriots could stand up to the might of a large, competent military. Instead of being mowed down before they knew what happened to them. If it was the first, I think I confounded him by saying I, a fuzzy-headed liberal, would fight. Maybe inadvertantly proving liberals are the stupid ones. [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-oldoaktree/944587.md?page=2)