# I Pit oldoaktree

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-oldoaktree/944587>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [June 18, 2021, 11:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-oldoaktree/944587 "2021-06-18T23:28:30Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![oldoaktree](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/ccd318/32.png) [@oldoaktree](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/oldoaktree)\
**Post date:** [June 19, 2021, 4:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-oldoaktree/944587/21 "2021-06-19T04:46:17Z")

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> The few “hell yeah i’d fight” posters have my respect, but as i stated, I’d only join the resistance if i thought it was viable and gaining momentum. Guess that might me a coward, but Panache45 is a better man than I. I’d join him…eventually.
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> Absent a viable resistance, I’d probably keep my mouth shut and keep my family alive.
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> There is a certain tone to a lot of the posts that lead me to suspect, people aren’t answering directly to the OP because they think it is trick to get liberals to either welcome our Chinese Communist Party overlords or join with the NRA gun nuts, flag waving patriots.
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> Life isn’t bifurcated. Just say what you would do.

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**Author:** ![oldoaktree](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/ccd318/32.png) [@oldoaktree](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/oldoaktree)\
**Post date:** [June 19, 2021, 4:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-oldoaktree/944587/22 "2021-06-19T04:47:36Z")

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> This, I think, the most plausible answer which the majority of Americans would take. Including myself. I might not like it, but as long as I don’t rabble rouse, my life wouldn’t change much. The SDMB of course wouldn’t survive internet censorship.
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> Empires have been conquering people forever. The common folk just go about their lives.
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> If a viable armed resistance was gaining momentum, i might join. But I don’t have any delusions of patriotic heroism. I might hope for some sudden fall of the Soviet Union/Berlin Wall type event.

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**Author:** ![oldoaktree](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/ccd318/32.png) [@oldoaktree](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/oldoaktree)\
**Post date:** [June 19, 2021, 4:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-oldoaktree/944587/23 "2021-06-19T04:52:05Z")

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Did any of you read the whole thread? It seems like your read the first few posts and decided i was conservative troll. Don’t congratulate yourself so fast.

These are my own answers to my own question. Which none of you bothered to read. You made assumptions.

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**Author:** ![panache45](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/panache45/32/64_2.png) [@panache45](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/panache45)\
**Post date:** [June 19, 2021, 5:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-oldoaktree/944587/24 "2021-06-19T05:17:14Z")

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No, you’re the one making assumptions, after bifurcating us and second-guessing our responses. And you were wrong.

You have violated Rule #1 (Don’t be a jerk), and it looks like your days here are numbered. It’s not your politics that are unwanted here. It’s your attitude.

And by the way, you never answered my query about this post:

> [@Right wingers - what are your most left views, Left wingers your most right view?](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/right-wingers-what-are-your-most-left-views-left-wingers-your-most-right-view/944414/26):
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> Pro Lgbt (though i have my limits)

What are those limits?

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**Author:** ![oldoaktree](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/ccd318/32.png) [@oldoaktree](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/oldoaktree)\
**Post date:** [June 19, 2021, 5:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-oldoaktree/944587/25 "2021-06-19T05:24:22Z")

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Semantics of the trans debate. Not trans issues, just the semantics of the debate.

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**Author:** ![oldoaktree](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/ccd318/32.png) [@oldoaktree](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/oldoaktree)\
**Post date:** [June 19, 2021, 5:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-oldoaktree/944587/26 "2021-06-19T05:34:36Z")

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Explain to me, how I, a person who would not fight, is somehow being a jerk to others that would not fight.

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**Author:** ![crowmanyclouds](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/crowmanyclouds/32/19884_2.png) [@crowmanyclouds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/crowmanyclouds)\
**Post date:** [June 19, 2021, 5:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-oldoaktree/944587/27 "2021-06-19T05:44:02Z")

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> [@oldoaktree](#):
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> Semantics of the trans debate. Not trans issues, just the semantics of the debate.

Why am I certain that “Semantics of the trans debate” does not mean the _semantics_ of the Trans debate.

Fortunately, I’m not interested in helping you convert this cryptic non-answer into something closer to an actual answer . . . 'cause I ain’t a dentist.

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**Author:** ![oldoaktree](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/ccd318/32.png) [@oldoaktree](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/oldoaktree)\
**Post date:** [June 19, 2021, 5:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-oldoaktree/944587/28 "2021-06-19T05:46:29Z")

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I would elaborate but the topic has been beaten to death. Just Semantics.

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**Author:** ![crowmanyclouds](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/crowmanyclouds/32/19884_2.png) [@crowmanyclouds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/crowmanyclouds)\
**Post date:** [June 19, 2021, 5:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-oldoaktree/944587/29 "2021-06-19T05:50:39Z")

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Really? AFAICT the subject that has been beaten to death is accepting other people’s prefered pronouns.  
If you don’t want people to come to the conclusion that you’re avoiding a clear answer because it shows your true colors then you might want to stop being so fucking cryptic . . . it would go a long way towards making you a better Doper, in my eyes at least.

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**Author:** ![oldoaktree](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/ccd318/32.png) [@oldoaktree](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/oldoaktree)\
**Post date:** [June 19, 2021, 5:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-oldoaktree/944587/30 "2021-06-19T05:56:17Z")

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There are rules about discussing trans issues. Which i am not 100% clear on and will not elaborate on because i might run afoul of them and the topic has been beaten to death.

Now tell me how I, a person who would not joined the armed resistance, is trolling liberals for not joining the armed resistance.

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**Author:** ![crowmanyclouds](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/crowmanyclouds/32/19884_2.png) [@crowmanyclouds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/crowmanyclouds)\
**Post date:** [June 19, 2021, 6:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-oldoaktree/944587/31 "2021-06-19T06:01:07Z")

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[![](https://merriam-webster.com/assets/mw/images/article/art-wap-landing-mp-lg/sea%20lion%20barking-7966-2217339b7d8f853ac2d732c14bfdbef1@1x.jpg) ](https://merriam-webster.com/assets/mw/images/article/art-wap-landing-mp-lg/sea%20lion%20barking-7966-2217339b7d8f853ac2d732c14bfdbef1@1x.jpg)

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**Author:** ![BigT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bigt/32/12044_2.png) [@BigT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BigT)\
**Post date:** [June 19, 2021, 6:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-oldoaktree/944587/32 "2021-06-19T06:03:44Z")

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Yeah, I’ve seen enough. I’m not sure if I should call what I did before being “good cop” or just deliberately giving you more benefit of the doubt than I felt you deserved, but the point was to give you a chance to show you actually cared, or to hang yourself.

I see you chose the latter.

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**Author:** ![oldoaktree](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/ccd318/32.png) [@oldoaktree](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/oldoaktree)\
**Post date:** [June 19, 2021, 6:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-oldoaktree/944587/33 "2021-06-19T06:49:46Z")

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Nope. I disagree with you, probably on a number of topics. That does not make me a Sea Lion

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**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\
**Post date:** [June 19, 2021, 9:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-oldoaktree/944587/34 "2021-06-19T21:44:17Z")

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> [@oldoaktree](#):
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> Now tell me how I, a person who would not joined the armed resistance, is trolling liberals for not joining the armed resistance.

It’s simple. It’s because you’re a hypocrite.

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**Author:** ![naita](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/naita/32/5862_2.png) [@naita](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/naita)\
**Post date:** [June 19, 2021, 9:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-oldoaktree/944587/35 "2021-06-19T21:47:29Z")

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It’s fascinating how many different types of trolls the SDMB attracts, and yet none of them manage to be the kind that ignore troll accusations.

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**Author:** ![Darren\_Garrison](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/darren_garrison/32/92_2.png) [@Darren\_Garrison](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Darren_Garrison)\
**Post date:** [June 19, 2021, 10:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-oldoaktree/944587/36 "2021-06-19T22:26:53Z")

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I’m getting the impression that he chose the name “oldoaktree” because “lookatmelookatmelookatmeheylookatmecomeonlookatme” was already taken.

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**Author:** ![nelliebly](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/nelliebly/32/5422_2.png) [@nelliebly](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/nelliebly)\
**Post date:** [June 19, 2021, 10:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-oldoaktree/944587/37 "2021-06-19T22:38:15Z")

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From the "[How to Be a Better Doper"](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-to-be-a-better-doper/944591/87) thread:

_Me and my friends have been here for 21 years._

Nobody lurks for 21 years. Not that I’m doubting he’s been here that long. That leaves only one other possibility…

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**Author:** ![crowmanyclouds](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/crowmanyclouds/32/19884_2.png) [@crowmanyclouds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/crowmanyclouds)\
**Post date:** [June 19, 2021, 10:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-oldoaktree/944587/38 "2021-06-19T22:42:15Z")

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I’m totally getting a vibe that this is that kid\* that kept coming back with socks and begging for a second chance.  
Who’s name I just can’t remember.

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**Author:** ![kenobi\_65](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kenobi_65/32/13178_2.png) [@kenobi\_65](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kenobi_65)\
**Post date:** [June 19, 2021, 10:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-oldoaktree/944587/39 "2021-06-19T22:47:19Z")

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Yankees 1996 Champs, among other names?

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**Author:** ![Darren\_Garrison](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/darren_garrison/32/92_2.png) [@Darren\_Garrison](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Darren_Garrison)\
**Post date:** [June 19, 2021, 10:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-oldoaktree/944587/40 "2021-06-19T22:50:41Z")

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> [@crowmanyclouds](#):
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> I’m totally getting a vibe that this is that kid\* that kept coming back with socks and begging for a second chance.  
> Who’s name I just can’t remember.

Luciano700. Googling the name, I see he is still posting at CityData.

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