# I pit over-the-top Anti-Trump hysteria **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Tags:** trump\ **Created:** [August 5, 2025, 6:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-over-the-top-anti-trump-hysteria/1021735 "2025-08-05T18:11:55Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 18
**Author:** ![DavidNRockies](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/davidnrockies/32/6279_2.png) [@DavidNRockies](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DavidNRockies)\ **Post date:** [August 17, 2025, 1:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-over-the-top-anti-trump-hysteria/1021735/341 "2025-08-17T13:33:43Z")
Aren’t the majority of people who do _not_ support Trump fighting him for: - All that he’s done, - All that he’s doing, and - All that they believe he _might yet_ do? ---
**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\ **Post date:** [August 17, 2025, 1:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-over-the-top-anti-trump-hysteria/1021735/342 "2025-08-17T13:39:00Z")
But which do you feel is a higher priority? Fighting the things Trump is actually doing? Or fighting the things Trump might theoretically do? My position is that fighting the actual things is more important than fighting the theoretical things. ---
**Author:** ![DavidNRockies](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/davidnrockies/32/6279_2.png) [@DavidNRockies](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DavidNRockies)\ **Post date:** [August 17, 2025, 1:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-over-the-top-anti-trump-hysteria/1021735/343 "2025-08-17T13:40:53Z")
Please see my previous post. ---
**Author:** ![Banquet\_Bear](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/banquet_bear/32/373_2.png) [@Banquet\_Bear](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Banquet_Bear)\ **Post date:** [August 17, 2025, 1:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-over-the-top-anti-trump-hysteria/1021735/344 "2025-08-17T13:56:54Z")
> [@Little\_Nemo](#): > > Or fighting the things Trump might theoretically do? …there is nothing theoretical about it. Trump is funding, supporting and arming a genocide. Its just that: > [@Little\_Nemo](#): > > As for Gaza, I didn’t want to open that topic up here. You want to pretend that isn’t happening. ---
**Author:** ![Der\_Trihs](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/der_trihs/32/233_2.png) [@Der\_Trihs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Der_Trihs)\ **Post date:** [August 17, 2025, 2:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-over-the-top-anti-trump-hysteria/1021735/345 "2025-08-17T14:32:38Z")
> [@Banquet\_Bear](#): > > You want to pretend that isn’t happening. Don’t you know? If you pretend a problem doesn’t exist, it goes away! So just pull those blankets over your head and ignore any problems and everything will be fine. ---
**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\ **Post date:** [August 17, 2025, 2:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-over-the-top-anti-trump-hysteria/1021735/346 "2025-08-17T14:49:46Z")
> [@Der\_Trihs](#): > > Don’t you know? If you pretend a problem doesn’t exist, it goes away! So just pull those blankets over your head and ignore any problems and everything will be fine. So genocide is your blanket. > [@Little\_Nemo](#): > > It’s people like you who say you’re too busy fighting against genocide when you’re asked to join the fight against illegal arrests. ---
**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\ **Post date:** [August 17, 2025, 3:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-over-the-top-anti-trump-hysteria/1021735/347 "2025-08-17T15:29:00Z")
Here is a real simple task to see if this message of yours is at all effective: Point out the people in this thread you think you have convinced. ---
**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\ **Post date:** [August 17, 2025, 6:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-over-the-top-anti-trump-hysteria/1021735/348 "2025-08-17T18:08:37Z")
> [@Czarcasm](#): > > Point out the people in this thread you think you have convinced. I’d say the people who say they agree with me agree with me. Of course, maybe they already felt that way and my post wasn’t what convinced them. ---
**Author:** ![Dr.Drake](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ad7895/32.png) [@Dr.Drake](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dr.Drake)\ **Post date:** [August 17, 2025, 6:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-over-the-top-anti-trump-hysteria/1021735/349 "2025-08-17T18:38:38Z")
He has made up the people who are going to be turned into apathy by too-strong rhetoric; why shouldn’t he make up people who agree with his own rhetoric? ---
**Author:** ![Der\_Trihs](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/der_trihs/32/233_2.png) [@Der\_Trihs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Der_Trihs)\ **Post date:** [August 17, 2025, 8:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-over-the-top-anti-trump-hysteria/1021735/350 "2025-08-17T20:31:46Z")
> [@Little\_Nemo](#): > > So genocide is your blanket. No, genocide is the future, and the present. Genocide denial is _your_ blanket. ---
**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\ **Post date:** [August 18, 2025, 2:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-over-the-top-anti-trump-hysteria/1021735/351 "2025-08-18T02:16:20Z")
> [@Der\_Trihs](#): > > Genocide denial is _your_ blanket. You’re going to have to try harder than this. “I’m rubber and you’re glue” isn’t going to work here. Anyone reading this thread can see that I’ve repeatedly said we need to oppose Trump and the Republicans and focus on the most immediate issues. So accusing me of “hiding under a blanket” isn’t going to work. I’m saying we should be working against civil rights violations and you’re saying we should be working against genocide. Now if I’m right, then I’m working on a real problem and you’re doing nothing. But if you’re right, then we’re working on the two opposite ends of the same problem. But either way, you can’t convincingly argue that I’m hiding under a blanket. So you need to stop attempting to use my argument back against me and develop a more plausible argument that fits what I’ve said. Think of this as training. ---
**Author:** ![crowmanyclouds](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/crowmanyclouds/32/19884_2.png) [@crowmanyclouds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/crowmanyclouds)\ **Post date:** [August 18, 2025, 2:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-over-the-top-anti-trump-hysteria/1021735/352 "2025-08-18T02:17:27Z")
You forgot the urgent fight against climate change. ---
**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\ **Post date:** [August 18, 2025, 2:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-over-the-top-anti-trump-hysteria/1021735/353 "2025-08-18T02:18:21Z")
> [@crowmanyclouds](#): > > You forgot the urgent fight against climate change Yes, that is an urgent fight. What’s your point? ---
**Author:** ![crowmanyclouds](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/crowmanyclouds/32/19884_2.png) [@crowmanyclouds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/crowmanyclouds)\ **Post date:** [August 18, 2025, 2:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-over-the-top-anti-trump-hysteria/1021735/354 "2025-08-18T02:21:26Z")
Climate change is over-the-top Anti-Trump hysteria, Trump isn’t warming the globe, we need to fight what Trump is actually doing right now. ---
**Author:** ![Dr.Drake](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ad7895/32.png) [@Dr.Drake](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dr.Drake)\ **Post date:** [August 18, 2025, 2:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-over-the-top-anti-trump-hysteria/1021735/355 "2025-08-18T02:22:55Z")
> [@Little\_Nemo](#): > > Now if I’m right, then I’m working on a real problem and you’re doing nothing This, right here, is your precise misunderstanding. People are right now working against genocide—by protesting the camps; by raising money for Democrats; by filming ICE agents. Why would you think they were “doing nothing”? ---
**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\ **Post date:** [August 18, 2025, 2:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-over-the-top-anti-trump-hysteria/1021735/356 "2025-08-18T02:27:27Z")
> [@crowmanyclouds](#): > > Climate change is over-the-top Anti-Trump hysteria, Trump isn’t warming the globe, we need to fight what Trump is actually doing right now. I disagree. I feel that the scientific consensus is that climate change is occurring. ---
**Author:** ![crowmanyclouds](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/crowmanyclouds/32/19884_2.png) [@crowmanyclouds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/crowmanyclouds)\ **Post date:** [August 18, 2025, 2:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-over-the-top-anti-trump-hysteria/1021735/357 "2025-08-18T02:30:04Z")
Yes, and that’s got extremely little to do with opposing Trump. ---
**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\ **Post date:** [August 18, 2025, 2:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-over-the-top-anti-trump-hysteria/1021735/358 "2025-08-18T02:40:04Z")
Probably true. Reversing climate change isn’t going to drive Trump or the Republicans out of power. But I feel we’ve passed the point where we can work on pushing Trump and the Republicans out of power and then start working seriously on climate change. I don’t think we have the time to postpone working on climate change. ---
**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\ **Post date:** [August 18, 2025, 2:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-over-the-top-anti-trump-hysteria/1021735/359 "2025-08-18T02:46:37Z")
> [@Dr.Drake](#): > > This, right here, is your precise misunderstanding. People are right now working against genocide—by protesting the camps; by raising money for Democrats; by filming ICE agents. Why would you think they were “doing nothing”? If genocide isn’t a real plan than efforts to stop genocide are being wasted. They’d be better used to fight genuine plans. There’s also the numbers issue I’ve been talking about. If the people who are currently opposed to Trump and the Republicans were enough to drive them from power, then they wouldn’t be in power. So we need more people to join us in opposing Trump. And as I’ve said, I feel we’re going to convince a lot more people to join the anti-Trump opposition by pointing to things that Trump is doing - like attacking civil rights - than by accusing him of having a secret plan to exterminate black people. ---
**Author:** ![crowmanyclouds](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/crowmanyclouds/32/19884_2.png) [@crowmanyclouds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/crowmanyclouds)\ **Post date:** [August 18, 2025, 2:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-over-the-top-anti-trump-hysteria/1021735/360 "2025-08-18T02:46:48Z")
Then why in the thread you started, to complain about the way other folks are fighting Trump and the Republicans, > [@Czarcasm](#): > > In your opinion, what are the top three things people should focus on? > > > [@Little\_Nemo](#): > > > > 1. Working on mitigating climate change. is it even on your list? [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-over-the-top-anti-trump-hysteria/1021735.md?page=17) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-over-the-top-anti-trump-hysteria/1021735.md?page=19)